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re: Everybody talks about games that “broke” a program; what about games that “made” one?
Posted on 6/26/23 at 4:25 pm to MizzouTrue
Posted on 6/26/23 at 4:25 pm to MizzouTrue
Some that come to mind for me for other schools.
LSU — 2001 SECCG
Auburn — 1982 Iron Bowl
LSU — 2001 SECCG
Auburn — 1982 Iron Bowl
Posted on 6/26/23 at 4:32 pm to MizzouTrue
For the program as a whole:
No. 2 Texas - 28
No. 1 Oklahoma - 7
October 12, 1963
No. 2 Texas - 28
No. 1 Oklahoma - 7
October 12, 1963
Posted on 6/26/23 at 4:38 pm to Tornado Alley
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There is no need to be upset about Pat Dye standing up to big bad Bama and changing the football culture of the state forever in the process.
Your definition of forever could use some work. Pat Dye was built by BAMA. His assistant coaches were raised by BAMA. The offense he ran was a carbon copy of BAMA. His defense was a carbon copy of what he learned at BAMA.
You can say that the barn was the early composition of today's Georgia. Just no championships.
And championships matter. That just makes him a poor imitation.
Posted on 6/26/23 at 4:41 pm to bamameister
Can’t think we have made it. But Bobby Petrino and his motorcycle definitely broke Arkansas
Posted on 6/26/23 at 4:47 pm to bamameister
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Just no championships
Am I taking crazy pills or did Pay Dye not win four SEC championships at Auburn?
Posted on 6/26/23 at 4:47 pm to DeathByTossDive225
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Who do you think was LSU’s coach in 2001… first sentence
Guy is an idiot
Posted on 6/26/23 at 4:55 pm to MizzouTrue
The SugarVols in 1985. The depleted Vols were a TD plus dog to Miami (coached by Jimmy Johnson QB Venny Testarede). Vols QB Daryl Dickey (yep he was a Tennessee QB) led the Vols in a 35-7 rout of the Hurricanes.
That game is often looked at the game that put the Vols back on the map and kicked off the 1985-2005 run for the Vols.
That game is often looked at the game that put the Vols back on the map and kicked off the 1985-2005 run for the Vols.
Posted on 6/26/23 at 4:56 pm to TeddyWestside
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Am I taking crazy pills or did Pay Dye not win four SEC championships at Auburn?
They don't give out NC trophies for that. If Pat Dye was really the heir apparent to coach Paul "Bear" Bryant" and the mighty Tide in the 80s where are the NC trophies? Truth is, he did less with more.
And I sat in Legion Field in 1992 on Thanksgiving Day, I watched BAMA dismantle Pat Dye's last barner team 17-0. They were headed to major NCAA penalties and he was being replaced................................ and BAMA?
Well BAMA was headed to New Orleans and the Sugar Bowl to play Miami for the natty. Remember how that went?
The only NC rings Pat Dye and his staff ever wore had a Crimson A on them.
Posted on 6/26/23 at 4:59 pm to bamameister
The fact that Auburn wasn't awarded the 1983 national championship is the reason using national championships pre-1998 as a barometer for success is a bit silly. It was part-merit, part-popularity contest.
Posted on 6/26/23 at 5:05 pm to TeddyWestside
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The fact that Auburn wasn't awarded the 1983 national championship is the reason using national championships pre-1998 as a barometer for success is a bit silly. It was part-merit, part-popularity contest.
Thems the rules. And all that Pat Dye left the barn of real significance was his signature on the football field.
Posted on 6/26/23 at 5:07 pm to BoCam2
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1982 Iron Bowl.
Well, if we're going back that far, the 1926 Rose Bowl. Not only did it put Alabama football on the national map, but all of Southern football.
Posted on 6/26/23 at 5:17 pm to bamameister
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Thems the rules.
What rules? There was no system in place everyone agreed to until the BCS.
Posted on 6/26/23 at 5:22 pm to MetroAtlantaGatorFan
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What rules? There was no system in place everyone agreed to until the BCS.
And yet in 2003 the AP poll and the BCS couldn't agree on who the National Champion was.
Turns out that both LSU and USC won.
What rules indeed.
This post was edited on 6/26/23 at 5:24 pm
Posted on 6/26/23 at 5:24 pm to MizzouTrue
I think as programs ebb and flow, you have games that “make” your program, but on a temporary basis. Unless your program has been without a down year, that’s going to be true.
LSU was “made” at some point under Dietzel. Then under Saban (or maybe Dinardo) And will hopefully have one under Kelly.
LSU was “made” at some point under Dietzel. Then under Saban (or maybe Dinardo) And will hopefully have one under Kelly.
This post was edited on 6/26/23 at 5:25 pm
Posted on 6/26/23 at 5:25 pm to bamameister
That's weird, I don't recall USC playing the Sugar Bowl that season (the designated BCS title game).
Posted on 6/26/23 at 5:29 pm to MetroAtlantaGatorFan
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That's weird, I don't recall USC playing the Sugar Bowl that season (the designated BCS title game).
Do you remember both USC and LSU having a National Championship trophy? Golf Digest couldn't even save Pat Dye.
Posted on 6/26/23 at 5:30 pm to bamameister
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Do you remember both USC and LSU having a National Championship trophy? Golf Digest couldn't even save Pat Dye.
I remember LSU beating Oklahoma and holding up the crystal football. I remember the only thing USC celebrated on the field was the Rose Bowl trophy.
Posted on 6/26/23 at 5:34 pm to MetroAtlantaGatorFan
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I remember LSU beating Oklahoma and holding up the crystal football. I remember the only thing USC celebrated on the field was the Rose Bowl trophy.
Then you should pay far more attention to your surroundings.
The rest of the story: AP Poll organization sent USC a really cool trophy that said 2003 National Champions on it.
Posted on 6/26/23 at 5:36 pm to bamameister
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Then you should pay far more attention to your surroundings.
The rest of the story: AP Poll organization sent USC a really cool trophy that said 2003 National Champions on it.
Here's the Jan 04 Rose Bowl with the trophy presentation. You're welcome.
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