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re: Chizik: Success, failure, other?

Posted on 6/11/23 at 11:21 pm to
Posted by GruntAu
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Posted on 6/11/23 at 11:21 pm to
Yes I am. There was a big talent gap that we had to go through because of Tubbs mailing it in, after Saban started spending that $$. Chiz came in and started reversing the gap, but he was always going to have to weather the storm of Tubb’s last couple of years. Tubbs gets credit for a lot of the talent the 2010 team had, but he also should get blame for what was waiting in the wings, which is not much. Go look at it
Posted by Weagle25
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Member since Oct 2011
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Posted on 6/12/23 at 7:38 am to
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Yes I am. There was a big talent gap that we had to go through because of Tubbs mailing it in, after Saban started spending that $$. Chiz came in and started reversing the gap, but he was always going to have to weather the storm of Tubb’s last couple of years. Tubbs gets credit for a lot of the talent the 2010 team had, but he also should get blame for what was waiting in the wings, which is not much. Go look at it

He was in year 4 at that point. That’s when it’s a majority of your players that you recruited are playing.

If he was just getting railed by Alabama that’s one thing. But we lost to every SEC team we played.

Go look at the roster. With the talent on that team, you should be no where near 3-9
This post was edited on 6/12/23 at 7:46 am
Posted by ALhunter
Member since Dec 2018
2973 posts
Posted on 6/12/23 at 12:03 pm to
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Yes I am. There was a big talent gap that we had to go through because of Tubbs mailing it in, after Saban started spending that $$. Chiz came in and started reversing the gap, but he was always going to have to weather the storm of Tubb’s last couple of years. Tubbs gets credit for a lot of the talent the 2010 team had, but he also should get blame for what was waiting in the wings, which is not much. Go look at it
It wasn't ideal but it also wasn't what Hugh Freeze is dealing with... any coaching transition you'd expect the classes to be slightly down at least 1 year probably 2.

2006 - 10ish
2007 - 10ish
2008 - 20ish
2009 - 20ish - this class was the transitional year I believe

So... not perfect but you can't expect the guy to be retiring with top 10 classes. Admittedly this was at the same time that Saban was beginning to hit his stride, so there was a contrast there, but any new coach is going to come in to a roster that needs improvement.
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