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re: UMass player that got smoked says A&M Commandant is lying
Posted on 11/20/22 at 1:26 pm to Krampus
Posted on 11/20/22 at 1:26 pm to Krampus
As for the cannon. There was NO EXCUSE for firing while people were anywhere in the vicinity of the blast area.
I generally support the corps, and appreciate the history of A&M. But they do have a track record of getting so wrapped up in their own traditions that they cannot see the forest for the trees, and end up living in a time-warp bubble, essentially detached from present-day reality.
That is the root cause of what I see here. And in the context of what happened, it is totally unacceptable. No tradition or gameday procedure is ever sacred enough to risk physical harm to anyone, let alone unaware visitors, to stay "on schedule".
If players are the vicinity of the business end of a cannon when the cannon is supposed to be fired, guess what? The cannon isn't getting fired at that moment. This is basic common sense, and unfortunately the corps has a history of eschewing it, in favor of preserving tradition, and that is exactly what happened yesterday.
Sadly, the cannon needs to go, this isn't a mistake that gets a do-over. And the cadets who fired it, and the corps leadership who built a culture that allowed students to actually think it was ok to fire at that moment all need to be held accountable.
I generally support the corps, and appreciate the history of A&M. But they do have a track record of getting so wrapped up in their own traditions that they cannot see the forest for the trees, and end up living in a time-warp bubble, essentially detached from present-day reality.
That is the root cause of what I see here. And in the context of what happened, it is totally unacceptable. No tradition or gameday procedure is ever sacred enough to risk physical harm to anyone, let alone unaware visitors, to stay "on schedule".
If players are the vicinity of the business end of a cannon when the cannon is supposed to be fired, guess what? The cannon isn't getting fired at that moment. This is basic common sense, and unfortunately the corps has a history of eschewing it, in favor of preserving tradition, and that is exactly what happened yesterday.
Sadly, the cannon needs to go, this isn't a mistake that gets a do-over. And the cadets who fired it, and the corps leadership who built a culture that allowed students to actually think it was ok to fire at that moment all need to be held accountable.
This post was edited on 11/20/22 at 1:31 pm
Posted on 11/20/22 at 1:31 pm to Krampus
quote:This is found in any organization that values history and tradition. It happens. A part of life (fortunately there was no tragic loss of life or limb involved).
As for the canon. There was NO EXCUSE for firing while people were anywhere in the vicinity of the blast area.
I generally support the corps, and appreciate the history of A&M. But they do have a track record of getting so wrapped up in their own traditions that they cannot see the forest for the trees, and ebd up living in a time-warp bubble, essentially detached from present-day reality.
That is the root cause of what I see here. And in the context of what happened, it is totally unacceptable. No tradition is ever sacred enough to risk physical harm to anyone, let alone unaware visitors, to stay "on schedule".
If players are the vicinity of the business end of a cannon when the canon is supposed to be fired, guess what? The canon isn't getting fired at that moment. This is basic common sense, and unfortunately the corps has a history of eschewing it, in favor of preserving tradition, and that is exactly what happened yesterday.
quote:Disagree. All they need to do is change safety procedures and train appropriately. As EKG pointed out, the firing of the cannon as the team enters the field is a recent change implemented at mid-season. They did not change their procedures to take into account the presence of players and staff on the field during pre-game. This can easily be remedied.
Sadly, the canon needs to go. And the cadets who fired it, and the corps leadership who built a culture that allowed students to actually think it was ok to fire at that moment need to be held accountable.
Posted on 11/20/22 at 1:48 pm to Krampus
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As for the cannon. There was NO EXCUSE for firing while people were anywhere in the vicinity of the blast area.
This all could have been avoided if they had just 1 person go up to the guys and tell them, “hey, sorry to interrupt but we are firing our pregame ceremonial cannon and you’re right in it’s path. can y’all move over here with me?”
Posted on 11/20/22 at 5:13 pm to Krampus
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this isn't a mistake that gets a do-over. And the cadets who fired it, and the corps leadership who built a culture that allowed students to actually think it was ok to fire at that moment all need to be held accountable.
I’m an AD unit commander currently, in a unit that uses blanks during training. There are rules regarding proximity that are not violated without follow-on corrective actions.
You do not simply disregard safety in the military simply because “we warned them.”
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