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re: Annual History of the Playoff Selection Committee Decisions - Final 2022 Update
Posted on 11/14/22 at 9:01 am to Topwater Trout
Posted on 11/14/22 at 9:01 am to Topwater Trout
The only time a conference championship loser has made the playoff was 2021 Georgia, who I think was #1 going in.
If TCU is going to lose one, seems they’d be better off doing it this weekend and then winning the B12.
I just have a hard time believing the committee could allow a one loss USC or UNC into the playoff. They would get absolutely destroyed.
If TCU is going to lose one, seems they’d be better off doing it this weekend and then winning the B12.
I just have a hard time believing the committee could allow a one loss USC or UNC into the playoff. They would get absolutely destroyed.
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Posted on 11/14/22 at 9:08 am to BigOrangeLoyalist
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The only time a conference championship loser has made the playoff was 2021 Georgia, who I think was #1 going i
2020 ND also did.
Both cases, the only reason (IMO, regarding 2021) is because there wasn't a valid option to put in their place.
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I just have a hard time believing the committee could allow a one loss USC or UNC into the playoff. They would get absolutely destroyed.
so what? What happens in the playoffs is irrelevant to who deserves to be there. If you talk about "well this team would defintiely get killed" then you're talking about the dreaded "eye test" and are being subjective which is the opposite purpose of the committee. They are trying to objectigvely compare resumes and see who deserves it the most, not who is "best". If USC or UNC is a 1-loss P5 champion, that's going to get you into the playoffs pretty much every time. As it should.
Posted on 11/14/22 at 9:09 am to WG_Dawg
Thanks for taking the time to make the post
Posted on 11/14/22 at 9:12 am to llfshoals
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Those of us who have been in the playoffs before have seen it all play out before. Those who never had a chance fail to understand it, because they never had a reason to pay attention to it.
Prof is gonna have a migraine
Posted on 11/14/22 at 9:15 am to Hussss
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USC will not get in over Tennessee even if they win out. Their defense is horrendous and they have barely squeaked by shitty teams. No chance.
Well, you are wrong
Posted on 11/14/22 at 9:15 am to WG_Dawg
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Never in the history of the playoffs has a team that did not win their conference made the playoffs over a team that did win their conference with an equal or better record.
You could have just posted this, but it's not as if half the board hasn't been saying the same thing for years. UT fans are just delusional and refuse to accept that they don't control their own destiny at this point.
No non-conference champ is jumping a P5 conference champ with an equal or better record.
This post was edited on 11/14/22 at 9:16 am
Posted on 11/14/22 at 9:17 am to Cheese Grits
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hanks for taking the time to make the post
no problem, it's mostly copy and paste at this point ha
Posted on 11/14/22 at 9:17 am to BigOrangeLoyalist
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The only time a conference championship loser has made the playoff was 2021 Georgia, who I think was #1 going in.
if UGA loses to LSU in sec title game they are still in...disagree?
Posted on 11/14/22 at 9:19 am to Topwater Trout
I asked the same question in another thread. I have no idea, since you’d possibly have a 0/1 loss PAC, B12, ACC, and B10 Champ, in addition to SEC Champ LSU.
Posted on 11/14/22 at 9:21 am to WG_Dawg
quote:Seeing a pretty consistent trend here...
Conf champion
Posted on 11/14/22 at 9:21 am to Topwater Trout
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UGA loses to LSU in sec title game they are still in...disagree
It is the best chance to break the pattern (assuming other P5 champs have rqual or better records as well), but still not a given based on the precedent that has been set. I certainly think they should be in and get benefit of the doubt based on being defending Champs and the last couple of years, but it would certainly be novel and likely something the CFP committee would be hesitant to do.
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Posted on 11/14/22 at 9:21 am to Topwater Trout
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if UGA loses to LSU in sec title game they are still in...disagree?
it's impossible to answer that without knowing the story on the other P5 champs.
That's the biggest thing I keep tr4ying to stress to people (not you specifically topwater, just people in general) is that you can't answer the direct question of "If team A loses to so and so, are they in?" You simply can't know the answer to that unless you have the full picture.
If UGA loses to LSu but there's a handful of 2 loss P5 champs? Sure we'd have a great chance.
If UGA loses to LSU but every P5 cyhampion has 0 or 1 loss? In my opinion we'd be out.
Posted on 11/14/22 at 9:22 am to WG_Dawg
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The final spot is a tossup, and one that I can't answer with any confidence because we havne't see such a scenario in real life yet so there it isn't any precednet.
This is playoff #8 or 9?
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Fortyuantely, it's so far fetched that we'll likely never have to see it. But to answer the ultimate quesiton you're getting at...the ACC champion with 1 loss is a certainty.
Its very likely PAC 12 is won with 2 losses. TCU could definitely lose to Baylor or in title game...not really a dominant team. The ACC champ will have a loss to ND and clemson is 9 UNC 18...never have had a jump that high that I can recall. IDK how they would justify Clemson/UNC winner jumping Tenn from as far back as they are.
Posted on 11/14/22 at 9:22 am to Che Boludo
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No non-conference champ is jumping a P5 conference champ with an equal or better record.
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This post was edited on 11/14/22 at 9:23 am
Posted on 11/14/22 at 9:24 am to Che Boludo
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No non-conference champ is jumping a P5 conference champ with an equal or better record.
Unless they are a bigger brand or can draw a bigger audience
Vols are no USC but at least they can draw better than TCU,
Posted on 11/14/22 at 9:26 am to Topwater Trout
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his is playoff #8 or 9?
There's been 8 years of playoffs to go off of. This year is year 9
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Its very likely PAC 12 is won with 2 losses.
how do you figure?
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TCU could definitely lose to Baylor or in title game...not really a dominant team.
sure they could. They could also go undefeated. They weren't supposed to beat texas either.
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The ACC champ will have a loss to ND and clemson is 9 UNC 18...never have had a jump that high that I can recall
doesn't matter how big the jump is. What matters is the record of your P5 champs after CCG weekend. And after these next 2 weeks, if clemson or UNC still just have 1 loss, I betcha that they're going to shoot up the rankings in antiipcation of CCG weekend.
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IDK how they would justify Clemson/UNC winner jumping Tenn
becuase one team would be a 1-loss champion of a P5 conference while the other would be a 1-loss team that didn't win their division. Pretty simple.
Posted on 11/14/22 at 9:27 am to WG_Dawg
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it's impossible to answer that without knowing the story on the other P5 champs.
Almost everyone thinks UGA is a lock if they enter SEC title game at 12-0
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If UGA loses to LSU but every P5 cyhampion has 0 or 1 loss? In my opinion we'd be out.
TCU loses to Baylor and wins BIG12 champ game and you think they would be in over UGA? Clemson/UNC over UGA? c'mon
Posted on 11/14/22 at 9:31 am to WG_Dawg
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how do you figure?
Oregon has 2 losses
UCLA-2 losses
Utah-2 losses
USC-1 loss with a game vs ND and probably Oregon left
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doesn't matter how big the jump is. What matters is the record of your P5 champs after CCG weekend. And after these next 2 weeks, if clemson or UNC still just have 1 loss, I betcha that they're going to shoot up the rankings in antiipcation of CCG weekend.
Not in the top 4. Neither of them can jump Tenn
Posted on 11/14/22 at 9:40 am to Cheese Grits
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Unless they are a bigger brand or can draw a bigger audience
Disagree on multiple counts. Much more benefit with TCU than UTk. Brings new blood into the CFPs without disenchanting major conferences. There is clear SEC fatigue across college football viewership. Utk doesn't bring enough to the table to break the established standards
A 1 loss non-conf champ UGA is the best chance to be the first to get in over another 1 loss P5 champ, and that is certainly no guarantee. UTk will be outside looking in without a fair bit of help. Plus, I honestly think the CFP committee is down on those trying to get "style points," so that shite against Mizzou at the end of the game was pointless other than getting some kids one last play in Knoxville. Even that is a shite excuse given the leads they've had this year to get them plenty of other reps without looking like classless asshats.
Posted on 11/14/22 at 9:42 am to Che Boludo
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Tk will be outside looking in without a fair bit of help. Plus, I honestly think the CFP committee is down on those trying to get "style points," so that shite against Mizzou at the end of the game was pointless other than getting some kids one last play in Knoxville. Even that is a shite excuse given the leads they've had this year to get them plenty of other reps without looking like classless asshats.
Watch out, your pussy is showing.
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