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re: Annual History of the Playoff Selection Committee Decisions - Final 2022 Update

Posted on 11/14/22 at 9:45 am to
Posted by lewis and herschel
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Posted on 11/14/22 at 9:45 am to
Hope on line 1, Hope on line 1.
Posted by Che Boludo
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Posted on 11/14/22 at 9:45 am to
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Not in the top 4. Neither of them can jump Tenn

False.

Why is the mentality taking hold? 8 years of evidence and consistency just out the window because UT has a decent offense that needed homefield, 17 penalties and a complete meltdown to avoid a loss vs the worst Bama team since 2007 before getting bitch slapped by UGA.
Posted by VFL1800FPD
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Posted on 11/14/22 at 9:47 am to
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ded homefield, 17 penalties and a complete meltdown to avoid a loss vs the worst Bama team since 2


keep melting you fricking loser
Posted by Topwater Trout
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Posted on 11/14/22 at 9:51 am to
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False.


show me 1 instance a team ranked 9th or 18th has jumped the #5 team in the poll at this stage. And 8 years is nothing if you are using that to prove a point
Posted by Rip Torn
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Posted on 11/14/22 at 9:51 am to
You mean two loss teams are almost always left out? Yep
Posted by lewis and herschel
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Posted on 11/14/22 at 9:52 am to
You are supposing that is where they will be ranked on championship weekend... They will move up once they lock in and win their championship game.
Posted by Che Boludo
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Posted on 11/14/22 at 9:55 am to
I guess we'll just have to wait and see.

Plenty of football left, but betting on the CFP to break their established standard short of an chance on a 1 loss CCG losing UGA seems a fool's bet
This post was edited on 11/14/22 at 9:57 am
Posted by Topwater Trout
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Posted on 11/14/22 at 9:55 am to
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You are supposing that is where they will be ranked on championship weekend.


Yes and Tenn won't drop. Especially with LSU and UGA winning.

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They will move up once they lock in and win their championship game.


Neither will jump Tenn. there is a reason the best PAC 12 teams and ACC teams are behind Tenn. A 1 loss USC or maybe Oregon (can't happen now) could've jumped Tenn but an ACC team can't at this point
Posted by Topwater Trout
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Posted on 11/14/22 at 10:00 am to
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established standard short of an chance on a 1 loss CCG losing UGA seems a fool's bet



the committee is different every year. There are only 8 yrs to base this off of. Once again show me an instance where the 18th ranked team has jumped the 5th ranked team this late in the season...since you want to talk about standards being set over last 8 years P5 champs get left out every year
Posted by lewis and herschel
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Posted on 11/14/22 at 10:14 am to
UT will move down, they arent playing and others are....

Been easier for the committee to move them down to 6-7 after we demolished them.
Posted by Tiger Phil
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Posted on 11/14/22 at 10:18 am to
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WG_Dawg



Great work. Really solid analysis.

Also, love the people trying to bring emotion and homerism into this thread based solely on logic and precedence.
Posted by Che Boludo
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Posted on 11/14/22 at 10:23 am to
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P5 champs get left out every yea

Not once vs a non P5 conference champ with an equal or worse record
Posted by Topwater Trout
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Posted on 11/14/22 at 10:33 am to
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Not once vs a non P5 conference champ with an equal or worse record


I love the caveat "equal or worse record". Like I said there have only been 8 year of playoffs that yall have determined this is how it will be every year b/c of the previous 8. Do you think this year is the same as the previous 8? In the previous 8 has a team ever jumped a team that was # 5 from being 9 or 18? Why isn't that a precedent

PSU was left out and OSU got in. PSU was the conference champ. In this thread the guy who has laid out the "precedents" also said he doesn't think UGA gets in if LSU wins out...the only time it happened the conf champ was left out
Posted by djsdawg
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Posted on 11/14/22 at 10:38 am to
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Yes and Tenn won't drop.


I notice you didn’t say they would rise
Posted by Che Boludo
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Posted on 11/14/22 at 10:38 am to
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PSU was left out and OSU got in.

2 loss PSU vs 1 Loss OSU
Posted by Topwater Trout
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Posted on 11/14/22 at 10:43 am to
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I notice you didn’t say they would rise




Michigan and OSU play and 1 will lose and then guess what happens
Posted by WG_Dawg
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Posted on 11/14/22 at 10:44 am to
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I love the caveat "equal or worse record".


That's just an easier way to say "if you have 2 losses you generally probably aren't making it in over a team with 1 loss"

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there have only been 8 year of playoffs that yall have determined this is how it will be every year b/c of the previous 8


well, other than the actual decisiosn the committee has made every year of the playoff's existence...what else should we go by? Feelings and emotions? I think looking at their track record is as good a resource as any when trying to put the puzzle together.

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Do you think this year is the same as the previous 8?


I see no reason to the think the committee will change the way they make selections.

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PSU was left out and OSU got in. PSU was the conference champ. I


Because PSU had 2 losses...see point #1 up top of this post.

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In this thread the guy who has laid out the "precedents" also said he doesn't think UGA gets in if LSU wins out


You left out the caveat of there being all other 1-loss P5 champions. We have literally never seen a scenario where an undefeated team has played for and lost their CCG, and still made the playoffs over a P5 chamipon with the same record. Both times a CCG loser has made the playoffs, the next best P5 winner you could replace them with had 2 losses.

Posted by Topwater Trout
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Posted on 11/14/22 at 10:47 am to
2 loss PSU that won head to head vs OSU. OSU got in without even playing the title game. If LSU beats UGA it will be the same scenario except UGA will be 12-1 instead of 11-1...and the UGA fan says he doubts UGA will be in over LSu. And he is the one basing this entire post based on what the committee has done in the past
Posted by Cheer
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Posted on 11/14/22 at 10:50 am to
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TCU loses to Baylor and wins BIG12 champ game and you think they would be in over UGA? Clemson/UNC over UGA? c'mon


The data suggests that, yes, we would be out. The committee has shown you their blueprint in the data they've provided.

WG took the time to lay it out for you, I would think that you could take the time to read and decipher it in order to understand it.
Posted by WG_Dawg
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Posted on 11/14/22 at 10:52 am to
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the UGA fan says he doubts UGA will be in over LSu. And he is the one basing this entire post based on what the committee has done in the past


you keep pointing out things I've said, while leaving out critically important parts as well.

You seem to always gloss over the fact that a team, be it OSU/PSU in 2016 or UGA in 2022, is judged against OTHER CONFERENCE WINNERS, and not just looked at in a vacuum.

As I've said repeatedly, '20 ND and '21 UGA lost their conference but still made the palyofsf because there wasn't another P5 champion wiht the same record to put over them. In 2022, if UGA loses but there ARE other P5 champs wiht 1 loss, that would literally be the first time we've ever encountered this situation so there isn't a precedent for it. So I don't know what would happen I can only provide an educated guess.
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