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re: Coach Smart’s expectations of Stetson Bennett
Posted on 4/2/22 at 8:11 pm to WG_Dawg
Posted on 4/2/22 at 8:11 pm to WG_Dawg
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That doesn't mean that people are pulling against our own QB or rooting for him to fail.
Many on here were down on Stetson all last season. "He can't throw deep! He isn't accurate! He's too short!" Well, mostly that is true. If he can't throw the 60 yard bomb and hit a WR in stride, then he throws it short or wide and completes a 50 yarder. But he had a 65% completion rate and 10 yards per attempt. Even as the wins kept coming many in here were putting Stet down and calling for JT. Yet Stet kept winning and the team rallied behind him.
Had JT been the QB all year I doubt he would have gotten the hugs and love Stet got from the team at the end of the NC game.
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Posted on 4/2/22 at 8:29 pm to AirbusDawg
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I just don't care for Stet as a person, he seems like a "me first" kinda guy.
lolwut?! The guy who: came in as a PWO, left and came back when we were pretty desperate after JF left, was told that he was never going to start for us, came off the bench to save our butts in 2020 and played until he was sidelined with an injury, was told again that he was 3rd string all offseason, only to get thrust into the starting role and save our butts again all the way to a natty?
Just confirming... That's the guy you think is "me first"?
He has a chip on his shoulder, absolutely... And justifiably so IMHO. With that said, sounds like he may have been partying and celebrating last year a little too much so a message was sent, and based on practice reports, also received. That's great news for us, as I just don't want someone else being given the job by default... If someone other than Stet takes the job, I want them to have to claw it from his hands.
Posted on 4/2/22 at 10:51 pm to Peter Buck
They carry news that must get through.
Posted on 4/2/22 at 11:11 pm to deeprig9
Into the blue again, water flowing underground. Same as it ever was.
Posted on 4/3/22 at 6:39 am to fibonaccisquared
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That's great news for us, as I just don't want someone else being given the job by default... If someone other than Stet takes the job, I want them to have to claw it from his hands.
This exactly. I want Bennett to be at his very best, because if somebody does beat him out for first string, it means we are a better team.
I just don't see what is "unlikeable" about Bennett. I will get behind whichever QB our coaching staff deems is best, whether it is Bennett, Carson Beck or Brock Vandegriff.
I guess I'll just never understand why people cannot accept our coaches decisions on starting personnel. A player is as good as he shows in practice and on the field....not what a ranking shows while they are in high school, or what we dream in our heads they are like.
This post was edited on 4/3/22 at 6:40 am
Posted on 4/3/22 at 7:05 am to DawgsLife
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I guess I'll just never understand why people cannot accept our coaches decisions on starting personnel
I dont have a problem with questioning coaches decisions.
Tyler Catalina at LT and Isaiah Wynn at LG? Dumb as shite and i hated it all season.
Owen Condon starting at RT over McClendon (i didnt have a clue at the time as it was game 1, but for the next 18 months... i still dont know what they were thinking).
There is nothing wrong with questioning personnel and usage.
The only issue i have is that some fans make it personal. Some fans take it personal. And consequently, there is no rationality or logic in online arguments. Only hurt emotions.
Posted on 4/3/22 at 12:02 pm to meansonny
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I dont have a problem with questioning coaches decisions.
On the surface, I don't either. BUT, I also understand that the coaches see so much more than we do as fans. I get second guessing a play called or a particular scheme, or not adjusting to what an opponent is doing.
But the coaches know the players better than we do. They know their practice habits, attitudes, the understanding of the playbooks and abilities to to do what is required on the field. The coaches know a players injury status....so much more, therefore I am more prone to go with the coaches decisions.
I've seen players get on the field and become a distraction with their attitudes, etc. We just don't see these things as fans.
quote:I did too, and criticized it on this board. Looking abck on how it turned out I can only assume that the coaches saw something. Maybe Wynn just wasn't ready for tackle at that point. I don't know.
Tyler Catalina at LT and Isaiah Wynn at LG? Dumb as shite and i hated it all season.
quote:And we won't. Maybe McClendon had not put in the required work at that time and once the season started he began to work hard.
Owen Condon starting at RT over McClendon (i didnt have a clue at the time as it was game 1, but for the next 18 months... i still dont know what they were thinking).
quote:Questioning it? probably not. But we all should realize that the coaches are trying to accomplish something. They are not going to throw inferior players out on the field and chance wrecking millions of dollars on a contract for no reason at all.
There is nothing wrong with questioning personnel and usage.
quote:100% agree with this. But it cuts both ways. Some people take a coaches decision and make it personal about the player. The continually criticize a player for not rational reason. Last year is a perfect example of this with Stetson Bennett. What did Bennett do wrong? He went out and worked his rear end off and won the job and led us to a National Championship. He won the job, yet we had fans that criticized his height (Bryce Young is probably no taller) his throwing ability (I still don't get that) and some even his leadership. Some of our own fans said there was no way we could win a title with Bennett as QB. That alone tells me that most fans criticizing have no idea what they are talking about.
The only issue i have is that some fans make it personal. Some fans take it personal. And consequently, there is no rationality or logic in online arguments. Only hurt emotions.
All was irrational.
Posted on 4/3/22 at 12:20 pm to DawgsLife
You are being too kind to the coaches with your hypotheticals.
Wynn was too small for push at G.
Catalina didnt have the footwork to be a tackle.
In the offseason, Wynn gained 10 pounds for his start at LT the following year. Everyone knew he was undersized for Guard (that he needed 10 pounds to get up to size for tackle). Midseason when something isnt working, the coaches are doing a disservice to the seniors and nfl bound juniors to not make a change.
McClendon worked in the first game of the season at RT against Arkansas. Condon didnt finish game 1. McClendon hasnt failed to start a game at RT since. Over the past 2 seasons, Condon has fallen to the 6th player off the bench (not 6th man. 6th player off the bench).
I have had 0 issues with the handling of QB the past 2 seasons. The coaches are making lemonade. But i wont blame anyone who can make legitimate issues or arguments if they feel the coaches' decisions hurt the team.
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Maybe Wynn just wasn't ready for tackle at that point. I don't know.
Wynn was too small for push at G.
Catalina didnt have the footwork to be a tackle.
In the offseason, Wynn gained 10 pounds for his start at LT the following year. Everyone knew he was undersized for Guard (that he needed 10 pounds to get up to size for tackle). Midseason when something isnt working, the coaches are doing a disservice to the seniors and nfl bound juniors to not make a change.
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Maybe McClendon had not put in the required work at that time and once the season started he began to work hard.
McClendon worked in the first game of the season at RT against Arkansas. Condon didnt finish game 1. McClendon hasnt failed to start a game at RT since. Over the past 2 seasons, Condon has fallen to the 6th player off the bench (not 6th man. 6th player off the bench).
I have had 0 issues with the handling of QB the past 2 seasons. The coaches are making lemonade. But i wont blame anyone who can make legitimate issues or arguments if they feel the coaches' decisions hurt the team.
This post was edited on 4/3/22 at 12:21 pm
Posted on 4/3/22 at 1:53 pm to meansonny
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Wynn was too small for push at G.
Catalina didnt have the footwork to be a tackle.
In the offseason, Wynn gained 10 pounds for his start at LT the following year. Everyone knew he was undersized for Guard (that he needed 10 pounds to get up to size for tackle). Midseason when something isnt working, the coaches are doing a disservice to the seniors and nfl bound juniors to not make a change.
I get that, but I will still fall back on the coaches knowing and having more information than we do. I was a huge critic of Kirby his first season, and the situation you are bringing up was a large part of why I was critical. However, I think he has proved to be a good judge of talent and ability. For whatever reason they felt they had the players in a position they could best help the team. While it is great if the coaches can help the players develop and become NFL ready, their primary job is to win at the school they are coaching for. It doesn't matter how many players they get prepared for the NFL at that players NFL position, if it costs the team games they have not done their job.
quote:That still doesn't change that perhaps McClensdon did something (or did not do something) in practice that caused it. If that were the case hopefully he has learned and developed as a person and a player. I don't know. Nobody knows, which is why it is futile to criticize the coaches for doing something when we don't know or understand the situation fully. Don't you think Kirby has done a pretty darn good job in decision making so far? He seems to have learned from mistakes he made earlier in his career. I'll give him the benefit of the doubt.
McClendon worked in the first game of the season at RT against Arkansas. Condon didnt finish game 1. McClendon hasnt failed to start a game at RT since. Over the past 2 seasons, Condon has fallen to the 6th player off the bench (not 6th man. 6th player off the bench).
quote:And how do we know if their criticisms are legitimate? Say, somebody brings up the Condon/McClendon situation and we later find out that McClendon was injured or being disciplined? It was a legitimate criticism considering that person did not have the facts, but it's also silly to make criticisms when we know without a doubt we don't have all the information.
But i wont blame anyone who can make legitimate issues or arguments if they feel the coaches' decisions hurt the team.
quote:I don't think so. I just think it is unwise to criticize someone that has more information, more knowledge and a better understanding of a situation than I do.
You are being too kind to the coaches with your hypotheticals.
When my son was 8 years old we would take him to the doctor when he got sick and the doctor would prescribe medicine for him. He tried to refuse to take the medicine and replied "That doctor doesn't know what he is talking about!" (Absolutely true story)
Seems dumb for an 8 year old to criticize a doctor, right? The average fan has the knowledge and information an 8 year old has compared to a major college coach that has played and coached for 30+ years. No matter how much we THINK we know, we really don't know much at all in the grand scheme of things.
Posted on 4/3/22 at 2:41 pm to DawgsLife
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While it is great if the coaches can help the players develop and become NFL ready, their primary job is to win at the school they are coaching for. It doesn't matter how many players they get prepared for the NFL at that players NFL position, if it costs the team games they have not done their job.
It was obvious to all that Catalina was a guard. Guess what position he held on NFL practice squads for 3 years? And we all know about Wynn earning all american and 1st round draft grade at T. The very next season validated the incorrect position for both players. The rumor is that Catalina was promised a position at LT in order to transfer to UGA. And if that is true, i would break my promise 6 games in. Catalina wasnt holding up his end of the deal. He was hurting both himself and his team. That is a decision yhat a coach needs to make (i love ya, but you are 22 years old and wrong. You need to move inside).
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which is why it is futile to criticize the coaches for doing something when we don't know or understand the situation fully.
That premise would excuse criticism of everyone all of the time. "You dont know the situation fully for the president, governor, congressperson, law enforcement officer, judge, etc.." No one could be accountable for actions and decisions because how could you fully understand from the outside.
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I don't think so. I just think it is unwise to criticize someone that has more information, more knowledge and a better understanding of a situation than I do.
When my son was 8 years old we would take him to the doctor when he got sick and the doctor would prescribe medicine for him. He tried to refuse to take the medicine and replied "That doctor doesn't know what he is talking about!" (Absolutely true story)
Seems dumb for an 8 year old to criticize a doctor, right? The average fan has the knowledge and information an 8 year old has compared to a major college coach that has played and coached for 30+ years. No matter how much we THINK we know, we really don't know much at all in the grand scheme of things.
When my daughter was one, she got an infection. We had the amoxicyllin medicine like all young parents. And our daughter fought us over taking the medicine. The doctors suggested mixing it with marshmellow. Suggested forcing it down.
Once we got the medicine down, she started having a horrible reaction.
The lesson is to be hyper aware. Notice what doesnt look or seem right.
Use your senses and gut instinct to investigate and advocate.
My 1 year old daughter was allergic to penicillin.
People are people. Human and extremely fallible. Blindly trusting the doctor's advice (who is much more qualified with medicine and small children than i am) distressed my daughter's health and well being.
I will strongly agree to disagree.
Posted on 4/3/22 at 5:21 pm to meansonny
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It was obvious to all that Catalina was a guard. Guess what position he held on NFL practice squads for 3 years?
There could be dozens of reasons why the coaches placed him at Tackle instead of guard. One being no other viable tackle.
Why do you think they played him at tackle instead of guard? Do you think Pittman and Kirby are that bad in evaluating talent?
quote:Not really. I mean if you are "in the know" with personal experience or happen to know all the intangibles then have at it.
That premise would excuse criticism of everyone all of the time.
Do you think it reasonable to criticize someone when there are other reasons that you are not privy to at play? That is why I prefer to allow people with the correct knowledge to correct situations. There have been many, many instances of people being accused of malfeasance and later finding out that the information that criticism/accusation was based on was incorrect.
Richard Jewell would be one example and that would not even be the most recent or egregious.
quote:Here is the key. They did not have all the information and made a poor suggestion. Right?
My 1 year old daughter was allergic to penicillin.
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Blindly trusting the doctor's advice (who is much more qualified with medicine and small children than i am) distressed my daughter's health and well being.
But the doctors were making their diagnosis based upon the information they had....and did not have all of the information. I think you made my point for me.
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I will strongly agree to disagree.
And that's fine. I am merely trying to give people another perspective. Another way to look at things.
Posted on 4/3/22 at 5:46 pm to DawgsLife
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Why do you think they played him at tackle instead of guard?
They promised him that when transferring from rhode island.
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Do you think Pittman and Kirby are that bad in evaluating talent?
Well, they obviously got catalina and wynn wrong. In that situation, they were that bad. And deserve to be called out by me in my armchair for it.
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They did not have all the information and made a poor suggestion. Right?
And Smart and Pittman looked at the 4th best tackle in the Colonial Athletic Association and promised him the starting left tackle spot at an SEC school and kept him there for an entire season despite you and I seeing that he should be at guard and wynn should be at tackle.
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But the doctors were making their diagnosis based upon the information they had....and did not have all of the information. I think you made my point for me
Then we agree. People are human and make assinine mistakes all of the time. We disagree about judgment. I want to call out people for their frickups. You want to excuse their frickups because you arent God and all-knowing.
As i said... i can be at peace strongly disagreeing with you on passing judgment when humans act like humans.
Posted on 4/3/22 at 7:14 pm to meansonny
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They promised him that when transferring from rhode island.
So, it's your opinion that Kirby promised a kid a job before seeing him or working out for him, then stuck with that decision putting his job in jeopardy?
Ok.
quote:And we can all assume that....but we still don't know what all was going on. Ftr, I called them out for that, too. But I still don't know the ins and outs of the decision. I am willing to believe that either there was more going on with the situation, or Wynn just wasn't ready.
Well, they obviously got catalina and wynn wrong.
quote:But you are speculating, aren't you? Do you know they promised Catalina anything? I have never heard this. Do you know somebody in the program or are you guessing?
And Smart and Pittman looked at the 4th best tackle in the Colonial Athletic Association and promised him the starting left tackle spot at an SEC school and kept him there for an entire season despite you and I seeing that he should be at guard and wynn should be at tackle.
quote:But those mistakes are made when they don't have the proper information. Which is what I am saying most fans do. They make assumptions based upon little or no information.
Then we agree. People are human and make assinine mistakes all of the time. We disagree about judgment. I want to call out people for their frickups. You want to excuse their frickups because you arent God and all-knowing.
I mean you assume they promised Catalina something. You assume Wynn was the best fit at that time for tackle. You assume there were no other mitigating circumstances tied tot hat decision. I am not saying you are absolutely wrong, because I don't know.
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You want to excuse their frickups because you arent God and all-knowing.
Well....that pretty much correct. I don't know. And before I am going to accuse somebody of something I want to make sure I know what I am talking about. At my age I have had my share of looking foolish when I jumped to conclusions or assumed things. I have also hurt other people when I did that.
As for football? I prefer to allow the coaches do what they do best and if they screw up fire them. But it's way too easy to sit back and criticize without knowing the whole story.
If we don't have all the facts it's way too easy to amke bad mistakes, and some mistakes are difficult to take back.
See Bryan Harsin of Auburn. I would have bet money he was fooling around with the girl....and I would have been wrong. His reputation has been damaged, and i can assure you his relationship with his wife was damaged as well.....because a bunch of booster wanted him out and made something up....then fans jumped to conclusions before all the facts were known.
Hey. I've had my say. It's a dead horse now. You can have the last say and I will bow out of this thread.
Posted on 4/3/22 at 7:30 pm to meansonny
Where did they say they promised the guy a starting job?
Posted on 4/3/22 at 7:53 pm to K9
TOS
If you cant tell, i get fired up about wynn being stuck at guard while undersized and catalina starting the entire season at LT despite his struggles.
A mod informed me why Catalina got the nod.
Im not there. All i know is what people tell me. But we convinced Catalina to come to Georgia. We started him at left tackle one year before Wynn was an all american and top draft pick.
A connected source explained what the dots said. 1st year coach making 1st year mistakes (promising the job to the 4th best LT in the Colonial Atlantic Conference)
If you cant tell, i get fired up about wynn being stuck at guard while undersized and catalina starting the entire season at LT despite his struggles.
A mod informed me why Catalina got the nod.
Im not there. All i know is what people tell me. But we convinced Catalina to come to Georgia. We started him at left tackle one year before Wynn was an all american and top draft pick.
A connected source explained what the dots said. 1st year coach making 1st year mistakes (promising the job to the 4th best LT in the Colonial Atlantic Conference)
Posted on 4/7/22 at 10:48 am to meansonny
In the end, Kirby has said recently that he was talking at the team in generic terms. Go to Class, pay attention etc.... And that many took it completely the wrong way.
Said Stet is looking great and is no longer trying to force things not there.
Some of yalls sources suck donkey penis.
Said Stet is looking great and is no longer trying to force things not there.
Some of yalls sources suck donkey penis.
This post was edited on 4/7/22 at 10:52 am
Posted on 4/9/22 at 10:57 pm to lewis and herschel
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Kunts are people like yourself. Stet has accomplished far more than you ever have in your life.... Who are you to judge.... Hell, as college player he has accomplished more than the Mannings ever did, kirby or muschamp as players. He did ao in the most improbable way. People like you dont get to lecture those who have reached the most improbable mountain top like Stet.
This post may actually get him to finally let you suck his dick.
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