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Phil Steele's top 65 QB units for 2023...

Posted on 6/25/23 at 8:48 am
Posted by koreandawg
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Posted on 6/25/23 at 8:48 am
I'll give the top 15 with all SEC teams in the top 65.

1. USC
2. Washington
3. Oregon
4. North Carolina
5. Arkansas
6. Tennessee
7. S. Carolina
8. Miss. St.
9. Ole Miss
10. LSU
11. FSU
12. UTSA
13. Utah
14. Texas
15. Miami
21. Oklahoma*
25. Kentucky
31. Texas A&M
41. Alabama
42. Georgia
51. Mizzou

Florida, Vandy, Auburn not ranked.

He only comments on the top 15. Just based on what he says and his rankings, seems to prefer almost any starting experience, even if the play is bad, over no starting experience. Puts a lot of stock in how a guy played at the end of last year, even if only for a couple of games, than looking at the whole. Gives Ewers a lot of credit for the Bama game and blows off his play upon return due to his injury.

He has Ohio State ranked at 43 behind UGA. Interesting considering that recent data would suggest all three of those teams will end up with a better QB unit ranking by the end of the year.
Posted by WilliamTaylor21
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Posted on 6/25/23 at 8:49 am to
Posted by koreandawg
South Korea
Member since Sep 2015
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Posted on 6/25/23 at 8:51 am to
I don't know if you are not an adult. If you aren't, my apologies. If you are, you should understand the post wasn't meant to piss off LSU fans. I just posted information. I don't really agree with his rankings. I'm sure his site has an email or something if you'd like to give your feedback to him.

If you are a drunk adult, I also offer my apologies and I understand.
This post was edited on 6/25/23 at 8:53 am
Posted by SidewalkTiger
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Member since Dec 2019
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Posted on 6/25/23 at 8:53 am to
Some of this is pretty laughable.

That said, obviously I'm biased but I'd take LSU over any of those.

Nussmeier could be starting somewhere if he wanted to be and Daniels has really improved his deep ball during the offseason.
Posted by koreandawg
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Member since Sep 2015
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Posted on 6/25/23 at 8:55 am to
I'd take LSU as a the top one for the SEC, but I think you could argue for Arkansas or Miss. State. The other SEC schools ahead of LSU are strange picks.
This post was edited on 6/25/23 at 8:55 am
Posted by SidewalkTiger
Midwest, USA
Member since Dec 2019
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Posted on 6/25/23 at 8:58 am to
quote:

but I think you could argue for Arkansas or Miss. State. 


Not sure how, KJ is good but I don't even know who his backup is off of the top of my head.

Will Rogers was good in Leach's system but that's different now and I don't know their backup either.

quote:

31. Texas A&M


Way too low.

Weigman is a good player and they have a proven backup in Max Johnson.
Posted by BBQRick
Member since Jun 2023
450 posts
Posted on 6/25/23 at 9:01 am to
How in the world is Arkansas above Tennessee? This list is bogus.

We have the most physically talented QB in all of college football who just ripped through a good Clemson defense and the best 2023 QB prospect backing him up.
This post was edited on 6/25/23 at 9:06 am
Posted by ChexMix
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Member since Apr 2014
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Posted on 6/25/23 at 9:03 am to
crazy that Phil Steele thinks Payton Thorne isnt worth of being ranked in the top 65 for Auburn. frick Phil Steele
Posted by LSU2a
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Member since Aug 2012
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Posted on 6/25/23 at 9:08 am to
quote:

12. UTSA


https://imgur.com/gallery/4gFQy
This post was edited on 6/25/23 at 9:10 am
Posted by GetCocky11
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Member since Oct 2012
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Posted on 6/25/23 at 9:09 am to
quote:

The other SEC schools ahead of LSU are strange picks.


Do you have a thorough understanding of the QB rooms of the other schools? Or is it just feelings?
Posted by SidewalkTiger
Midwest, USA
Member since Dec 2019
61146 posts
Posted on 6/25/23 at 9:12 am to
quote:

How in the world is Arkansas above Tennessee? This list is bogus.


One of the few things about this list that makes sense.

quote:

We have the most physically talented QB in all of college football


You've said this before under your other alters and it's still wrong.

Posted by BBQRick
Member since Jun 2023
450 posts
Posted on 6/25/23 at 9:15 am to
Have never posted here before but let me ask you who has more raw arm talent?

I'll hang up and wait. Milton will be the first QB drafted next year if he plays at the same level this season that he did against Clemson.
This post was edited on 6/25/23 at 9:17 am
Posted by koreandawg
South Korea
Member since Sep 2015
11092 posts
Posted on 6/25/23 at 9:16 am to
quote:

Do you have a thorough understanding of the QB rooms of the other schools? Or is it just feelings?


I do. But understand if your numero uno has struggled a lot, that means the ones behind him may not be that great. Otherwise, they'd be ahead of him.

That said, coaches can be oblivious to what they have for a variety of reasons.
Posted by SidewalkTiger
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Member since Dec 2019
61146 posts
Posted on 6/25/23 at 9:17 am to
quote:

Who has more raw arm talent? I'll hang up and wait.


Again, you're still confusing arm talent with "most physically gifted."

Caleb Williams is quite a bit more "physically gifted" than Joe Overthrow.
Posted by koreandawg
South Korea
Member since Sep 2015
11092 posts
Posted on 6/25/23 at 9:19 am to
Raw arm talent is great. Have to have more to win football games.

Joe had a good game against a not very good team and his best game ever against a Clemson team not fully stacked in the bowl game. I understand Tennessee wasn't as well. But it was two games. I mean, after Hooker went down, your own fanbase had a lot of doubt about what would happen.
This post was edited on 6/25/23 at 9:20 am
Posted by koreandawg
South Korea
Member since Sep 2015
11092 posts
Posted on 6/25/23 at 9:21 am to
quote:

Caleb Williams is quite a bit more "physically gifted" than Joe Overthrow.


Yep. He's not going above Caleb Williams. Unless he gets injured, Williams is as locked in as overall no. 1 pick as Luck and Trevor were. Have heard the talking heads say multiple NFL scouts have said that.
Posted by shinerfan
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Member since Sep 2009
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Posted on 6/25/23 at 9:22 am to
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frick Phil Steele





Steele has always been good at cherry picking stats and predictions to market himself as a top prognosticator while getting almost all of his major picks wrong, badly wrong, every year. I'm somewhat jealous of his skill at spinning shite into gold.
Posted by SidewalkTiger
Midwest, USA
Member since Dec 2019
61146 posts
Posted on 6/25/23 at 9:24 am to
He used to say the same things under his other alter.


Posted by hawgsalot
Member since Nov 2011
882 posts
Posted on 6/25/23 at 9:25 am to
LOL KJ one of the Top Qbs in the nation with actual stats to back it up, he was injured last year and still produced numbers. Hell in 21' he went toe to toe with Bama's Heisman QB at bama, going for 323yds, threw tuddies and no interceptions. KJ is a 3k plus yard qb with 27-30 tds and probably 3-4 interceptions this year.

LSU, come on Daniels has been good but not quiet KJ yet. AR back up was in a QB battle with UNC's QB, which is considered one of the best if not the best in the Nation, he's a stud! Then you have a superstar freshman. AR QB situation is great for the years to come.

I do think the list is built off starting QB stats
Posted by koreandawg
South Korea
Member since Sep 2015
11092 posts
Posted on 6/25/23 at 9:25 am to
quote:

Steele has always been good at cherry picking stats and predictions to market himself as a top prognosticator while getting almost all of his major picks wrong, badly wrong, every year. I'm somewhat jealous of his skill at spinning shite into gold.


I didn't post this to say he's great. Just for discussion.

What he does is throw a lot of shite on a wall so that he can point to the turds that stick. I agree on that.
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