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Men's basketball is the only sport which has decreased in talent in the past 30+ years

Posted on 3/21/23 at 1:37 pm
Posted by Mulkey Man
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Posted on 3/21/23 at 1:37 pm
Baseball - gotten stronger with more players bypassing the draft (see Dylan Crews).

College football - always strong, but seems more talented than ever in a lot of ways.

Women's basketball - better than ever with more girls playing organized ball than ever.

Men's basketball - best players only play one season, at most. Many not playing at all. Only one of the top five projected picks (Miller) will play a minute of college ball.

Compare to the era when teams were filled with upper classmen who were also NBA talents. It's still fun to watch the games, but the talent is just not there.
Posted by cajunbama
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Posted on 3/21/23 at 1:40 pm to
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Mulkey Man


Didn’t read. Voted down.


Posted by bamameister
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Posted on 3/21/23 at 1:42 pm to
Way too much science for me.
Posted by LittleJerrySeinfield
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Posted on 3/21/23 at 1:43 pm to
And yet it's still infinitely more entertaining to watch than college baseball or women's basketball.

And for college football, the talent may have stayed the same but the product on the field has declined due to rules changes and evolving offensive philosophies.
Posted by Ptins944
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Posted on 3/21/23 at 1:44 pm to
Perhaps you watch too much LSU Basketball, and not enough of everyone else?

Posted by Mulkey Man
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Posted on 3/21/23 at 1:47 pm to
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And yet it's still infinitely more entertaining to watch than college baseball or women's basketball.


To each his own. As I stated, it is still fun to watch. But you look at the talent on the teams from before the one and done/G League era, and they would destroy the current top teams.

Posted by ljhog
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Posted on 3/21/23 at 2:18 pm to
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the product on the field has declined due to rules changes and evolving offensive philosophies.

that ain't no lie. I knew the game was headed in the wrong direction back 10 years or so ago. That's when WVU and TCU or some other school in the Big whatever played a 77 - 70 game. IN F'ing regulation.
Posted by MetroAtlantaGatorFan
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Posted on 3/21/23 at 2:26 pm to
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Didn’t read. Voted down.

Metry sure loved watching bball when Will Wade was still at LSU. Wonder what changed.
Posted by ThunderSnow
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Posted on 3/21/23 at 2:30 pm to
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Only one of the top five projected picks (Miller) will deliver a murder weapon.
Posted by DirtyDawg
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Posted on 3/21/23 at 2:31 pm to
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And for college football, the talent may have stayed the same but the product on the field has declined due to rules changes and evolving offensive philosophies.





#ThankYouGeorgia for bringing back real, championship winning football. Defensive ball is for the true CFB connoisseur .
Posted by Numberwang
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Posted on 3/21/23 at 2:34 pm to
This is generally true.

But March Madness is still the best thing going as far as sheer numbers of people caring about it and following it.

I'm grateful we've gotten to enjoy it fully the past 3 years.
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Posted on 3/21/23 at 2:36 pm to
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Posted by Numberwang
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Posted on 3/21/23 at 2:39 pm to
For context, 11 million people watched the ending of the Fairleigh Dicksinson upset. That's more people than watch the SECCG some football seasons. And the is on a weekend with 32 different games being played.

March Madness is in its own category as far as sporting events go.
Posted by Mulkey Man
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Posted on 3/21/23 at 2:53 pm to
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This is generally true.

But March Madness is still the best thing going as far as sheer numbers of people caring about it and following it.

I'm grateful we've gotten to enjoy it fully the past 3 years.


I agree, but it's a shame we don't get to see more of the top guys playing though. Fun to think how much better these teams would be with guys like Banchero, Jabari Smith, Scoot Henderson and the Thompson twins on the floor.



Posted by lsufball19
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Posted on 3/21/23 at 2:56 pm to
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And yet it's still infinitely more entertaining to watch than college baseball or women's basketball.

idk, I followed the NBA a lot from the late 00s until the bubble season during COVID. After watching the NBA that much, college basketball became a really difficult product to entertain me. The best players largely aren't staying in school long enough to develop, and the ones who do aren't as talented. And when you have 350+ D1 teams, the talent is so spread out that it just dilutes the product. It's just a sloppy game with far too many fouls and just terrible basketball being played all around for the most part. I haven't been truly engaged in college basketball probably since I was in college.

I know plenty don't agree, but college baseball is just a simpler methodic game where the talent disparity doesn't just leap off the page like it does with basketball. I also find it more entertaining than professional baseball simply because the season is much shorter and easier to commit to watching, and the games have more unpredictability and offense. Sure, around half the top talent signs pro contracts out of high school, but you also know that the players who go to college will be there for a few years or more to develop as players. That, and more and more top talent is going to college now than ever did prior.

Baseball, in general, isn't appealable to everyone just because of the nature of the sport. But I do think baseball in college is still "purer" for lack of a better word. It hasn't been nearly as affected by money as other sports have and is a better representation of true student athletes like football and basketball used to be before the oversaturation of money and commercialization
This post was edited on 3/21/23 at 2:57 pm
Posted by Mulkey Man
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Posted on 3/21/23 at 3:01 pm to
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idk, I followed the NBA a lot from the late 00s until the bubble season during COVID. After watching the NBA that much, college basketball became a really difficult product to entertain me. The best players largely aren't staying in school long enough to develop, and the ones who do aren't as talented. And when you have 350+ D1 teams, the talent is so spread out that it just dilutes the product. It's just a sloppy game with far too many fouls and just terrible basketball being played all around for the most part. I haven't been truly engaged in college basketball probably since I was in college.


Well stated.

I miss the older teams like the Fab Five, where you had multiple NBA level and even all-star level players together for three years. Or even further back, the UNC teams in the Jordan era. The level of play now just doesn't compare.
This post was edited on 3/21/23 at 3:01 pm
Posted by Frac the world
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Posted on 3/21/23 at 3:08 pm to
Typical Metry melt

LSU fricking sucks = the sport sucks now
Posted by Mulkey Man
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Posted on 3/21/23 at 3:10 pm to
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LSU fricking sucks = the sport sucks now


You disagree with the stated drop in top talent playing less college basketball? It's objectively indisputable, but I would like to read your argument against it.

This post was edited on 3/21/23 at 3:11 pm
Posted by MetroAtlantaGatorFan
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Posted on 3/21/23 at 3:17 pm to
You loved you some bball as Metry Mauler when Wade was still at LSU.
Posted by morriscat2
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Posted on 3/21/23 at 3:21 pm to
So what’s your point? Most basketball players could play football. But many football players could not play basketball, especially the lineman.
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