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re: What I’m hearing (coaching search)
Posted on 11/5/25 at 12:04 pm to slacker130
Posted on 11/5/25 at 12:04 pm to slacker130
I agree.
That's my boi.
That's my boi.
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Posted on 11/5/25 at 12:06 pm to pdfield34
U missed it. Kirby d fence was lock down. Lanning d fence was locked down. Schumann d fence not as much
That’d be like suggesting to hire Bobo.
That’d be like suggesting to hire Bobo.
Posted on 11/5/25 at 12:07 pm to michaeldwde
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well our defense is great and he is the DC, so just promote him and change nothing there and go find a great OC and ta-da now we have an amazing football team"
Posted on 11/5/25 at 1:06 pm to TTsTowel
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Sumrall
His offense and defense both suck, BTW.
Yea, they've not been a very good team this year. Definitely something to give some reservation on.
Posted on 11/5/25 at 1:09 pm to Blueline379
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I would rather take a chance with durkin than hire a lateral transfer and lose half the roster.
This has to be the calculus. So we hire a Sumrall type coach and the good players leave and recruits bail then you have to wait probably 2 cycles to see what you bought. Keep Durkin, players, recruits, hire an OC and staff. The blow gets softened. Obviously DJ is a good coach that the players on D have bought in already. You don’t skip a beat on D and improve on O.
Posted on 11/5/25 at 1:10 pm to GoCrazyAuburn
I just read his defense is 102nd in total defense.
That's bad.
If we cannot get Brohm, Key, or Kiffin just take interim job into next season.
Also: Kendall Simmons just stepped down at MTSU
That's bad.
If we cannot get Brohm, Key, or Kiffin just take interim job into next season.
Also: Kendall Simmons just stepped down at MTSU
Posted on 11/5/25 at 1:11 pm to jangalang
I can't keep track with all these threads
Posted on 11/5/25 at 1:17 pm to SingleMalt1973
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This has to be the calculus. So we hire a Sumrall type coach and the good players leave and recruits bail then you have to wait probably 2 cycles to see what you bought. Keep Durkin, players, recruits, hire an OC and staff. The blow gets softened. Obviously DJ is a good coach that the players on D have bought in already. You don’t skip a beat on D and improve on O.
And you invite the criticisms of a guy with a garbage track record as a head coach, continue ties to Freeze's dysfunctional staff, give recruiting ammo to those warning away talent because Auburn just hired a temp and you're still rolling the dice on a guy whose only positive track record is as a coordinator.
We're going to have to buy a roster either way. Might as well get a coach we feel is the future. It's hard for me to believe that's Durkin, but if so... it fits what we usually do, I guess.
Posted on 11/5/25 at 1:18 pm to metafour
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just hire an elite recruiter as the HC and then find the best OC and best DC and theoretically you will be elite. That sounds easy and logical, but it rarely works that way.
Uh.. That's the only way it works.
LSU - Ogeron, Brady, Aranda
UF - Meyer, Mullen, Strong
UA - Saban, Kiffen & Sark
Spurrier - only over the top with Stoops
the LSU situation says it all
That was about as compartmentalized as you can get as they dominated on the way to a national championship.
It really is that doable for Auburn - especially since we for sure don't have to play second fiddle in recruiting.
Of course these days you should hire someone with demonstrated elite offensive or defensive performance (as opposed to "this guy is tough, he is a leader, blah, blah blah)
Posted on 11/5/25 at 1:22 pm to AUCom96
Guess who else was a terrible head coach with an awful track,record. Fired in the NFL and on the tarmack after returning from an away game…
Just like Kiffin after he was fired as a HC he went back to coordinating and did a great job at AM, OM and AU.
Just like Kiffin after he was fired as a HC he went back to coordinating and did a great job at AM, OM and AU.
Posted on 11/5/25 at 1:22 pm to metafour
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that isn't how this works
Look at the alternatives. Any other coach we can hire is a gamble. There are a few coaches who can definitely turn things around but we will not be able to hire them after firing 3 coaches in 5 years. Given the other head coaching jobs available, why would a decent head coach choose Auburn? It is a no brainer for us because we love Auburn but finding a coach who feels like we do is unlikely. We would have to settle for someone who would likely be no better than the coach we just fired. At least now our team has something that is going right. I would be interested to hear what you would do in Cohen's position. I may not agree but do respect your opinion.
Posted on 11/5/25 at 1:25 pm to attalla
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hat’d be like suggesting to hire Bobo.
LOL... the guy coordinated an SEC championship offense and just outdueled Lane Kiffen.
But sure a defensive guy who just gave up 40 pts to North Texas St is Grrreat (I really don't think this makes a difference, but you can criticize anything).
Hate to break it but Auburn doesn't need perfection.. just some proven performance, technical expertise, connections, and all out effort.
Posted on 11/5/25 at 1:26 pm to SingleMalt1973
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Guess who else was a terrible head coach with an awful track,record. Fired in the NFL and on the tarmack after returning from an away game…
Yeah, and guess where he got his next HC gig at? Florida Atlantic. Are you trying to say Auburn should be looking at themselves like Florida Atlantic?
Posted on 11/5/25 at 1:27 pm to pdfield34
Yeah that was an odd take by him. Look at the list of natties and you'll see a pattern of teams that recruited well with good coordinators
Posted on 11/5/25 at 1:28 pm to LRB1967
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There are a few coaches who can definitely turn things around but we will not be able to hire them after firing 3 coaches in 5 years. Given the other head coaching jobs available, why would a decent head coach choose Auburn?
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It is a no brainer for us because we love Auburn but finding a coach who feels like we do is unlikely. We would have to settle for someone who would likely be no better than the coach we just fired.
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Posted on 11/5/25 at 1:29 pm to jvilletiger25
No i’m drawing parallels between Kififns coaching path and Durkins. I’m not comparing AU and Fl Atlantic. Now that you mention it though since we are gonna be on our 3rd hire in 5 years the. maybe we are Fla Atlantic.
Posted on 11/5/25 at 2:07 pm to smuphy72
I’m not close to sold on Sumrall.
Posted on 11/5/25 at 2:13 pm to auzach91
Same. I wouldn't hate the hire, I think he wants to job bad which I'm not going to discount having someone here that really wants to make us great , but I think he is pretty overhyped right now.
, but I think he is pretty overhyped right now.Posted on 11/5/25 at 3:25 pm to pdfield34
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Uh.. That's the only way it works.
LSU - Ogeron, Brady, Aranda
UF - Meyer, Mullen, Strong
UA - Saban, Kiffen & Sark
Spurrier - only over the top with Stoops
Uhm, excuse me?
Meyer, Saban, and Spurrier are not "recruiters", they are all elite head coaches with X's and O's expertise, hence why all three of them got opportunities as NFL HC's. They just happen to also be elite recruiters as well. Those three NFL teams didn't hire any of them as HC's because they were elite at recruiting 18 year old's from HS (a skill which has zero relevance in the NFL). Saban was even an NFL DC, so clearly he knows how to coach and scheme football at an elite level.
The only one on your list who is a recruiter-turned-HC is Ed Orgeron, and that only worked for one season with everything falling into place so well that even he couldn't screw it up. Obviously he couldn't replicate that talent or that OC/DC combination ever again and it fell apart like a popsicle house after Burrow left. So your best example is a guy who spent 9 full seasons as a HC, and succeeded in 1 season. The guy who followed Spurrier at Florida - Ron Zook - was a recruiter-turned-HC and his results were completely different from Spurrier's.
When I say "hire a recruiter", I'm talking exactly Orgeron or Rodney Garner or someone like that. If what you think actually worked with high probability, then you could just hire Garner for ~$3-4 mill and tell him to go find the best OC and DC and just stay out of their way. But that doesn't work, because you can't compartmentalize the football team without the HC also being an elite football mind/administrator/planner/team builder.
We literally just fired an elite recruiting HC - Hugh Freeze. And he didn't only fail because he didn't hire an elite OC and stay out of their way. He failed because he is a bad football coach who also made copious in-game mistakes, and couldn't instill a winning culture or mold the right team attitude.
Posted on 11/5/25 at 3:30 pm to SingleMalt1973
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No i’m drawing parallels between Kififns coaching path and Durkins.
So his coaching path should take him to UAB or something and let him prove himself there for a while before getting offered one of the top jobs in the country.
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