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re: What I’m hearing (coaching search)

Posted on 11/15/25 at 12:53 pm to
Posted by WarEaGAL
Member since Sep 2012
2210 posts
Posted on 11/15/25 at 12:53 pm to
Wonder if he repeated this in his interview
Clark Lea
“Let's stop pretending Auburn is something it's not. Tradition means nothing when you've forgotten how to win. They talk about legacy, but what legacy? You can't live forever off trophies you didn't earn. Auburn is a program living on empty glory — loud history, soft reality.”
Posted by pdfield34
Member since Aug 2022
565 posts
Posted on 11/15/25 at 1:01 pm to
"An exhaustive and thorough search led us to two former Troy assistants / head coaches to take charge of our offense and defense."

Posted by Aubs10
Atlanta, GA
Member since Jan 2013
403 posts
Posted on 11/15/25 at 1:13 pm to
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yeah but the only one you could argue would be the army game. The others are cannon fodder. They did beat the leader of the ACC this year. 2 of those 6 losses were to the Lane Train but his defenses held them pretty well until they ran out of bodies.


These are all definitely fair points. I mean his teams were clearly talent deficient against them. I guess I'd just like someone who can prove they can do more with less. Usually a good sign they'll perform as expected with more talent.

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Also notice a low post count for the time being on the board. So why don't you pony up who you are pulling for...


Not everyone is posting 24/7 here. Some of us have lives and just like to lurk and catch up on the chatter/inside info.
Posted by The_SwAUggford
Member since Jan 2013
3933 posts
Posted on 11/15/25 at 1:36 pm to
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"An exhaustive and thorough search led us to two former Troy assistants / head coaches to take charge of our offense and defense."



Yep hate that
Posted by The_SwAUggford
Member since Jan 2013
3933 posts
Posted on 11/15/25 at 1:39 pm to
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Another thing Lea mostly operates under conditions of low NIL for their lesser regarded players that for the most part plays to win and not for a check.



That's a real dynamic that should be considered. But at the same time Diego is getting paid and that boys got play to win out the arse.
Posted by LanierSpots
Sarasota, Florida
Member since Sep 2010
69366 posts
Posted on 11/15/25 at 1:48 pm to
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He is Malzahn on steroids while all we are is a losing program. Are you kidding me?


Your attempted burn is shite. Malzahn won big games. He didnt lose them. And he did it against the best teams in best conference at the peak of that conference. Not some shitty Big 10 team. Hell , the only SEC team he beat at PSU was Auburn against Harsin.


Personally, I have no interest in him. And if you are aiming at 8 wins again, we never should have switched from Gus. He was that guy and with some big wins thrown in. Not this watered down shite the past 5 years.

For all this money and heartache, I hope we are looking for someone who can beat the good teams

Posted by LanierSpots
Sarasota, Florida
Member since Sep 2010
69366 posts
Posted on 11/15/25 at 1:51 pm to
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So Lanier acting like Franklin is inferior to Auburn after knighting for Malzahn is hypocrisy at it's finest hour.



You are trying way to hard to try and make me look bad with Malzahn. He did the best things with Auburn in your lifetime. And those highs will be hard to match. James Franklin sure is not going to do that



Posted by FlyDownTheField83
Auburn AL
Member since Dec 2021
1360 posts
Posted on 11/15/25 at 1:54 pm to
metafour that was some well written background information on Franklin, he would be the worst hire we could make in my opinion. I saw his teams play at Vandy and Penn State, and they never beat a good team that I saw.

He had loads of talent at Penn State and regularly coached it down so that he barely beat Big 10 mid-level teams, and was never in contention against really good teams.
Posted by jangalang
Member since Dec 2014
50011 posts
Posted on 11/15/25 at 1:55 pm to
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Your attempted burn is shite. Malzahn won big games. He didnt lose them. And he did it against the best teams in best conference at the peak of that conference. Not some shitty Big 10 team. Hell , the only SEC team he beat at PSU was Auburn against Harsin.

Malzahn regularly lost to all kinds of shite teams. Conference foe or bowl game. Did Franklin struggle against PJ Fleck like your boy did? Hell Malzahn lost to Barry Alvaraz who took a break from retirement to whip Malzahn's arse.

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Personally, I have no interest in him. And if you are aiming at 8 wins again, we never should have switched from Gus.

I can assure you if we just wanted 8 we would have no competition in landing Malzahn. It will be harder for Malzahn to win 8 now though with the extra conference game so Malzahn is no longer under consideration.
This post was edited on 11/15/25 at 2:02 pm
Posted by jangalang
Member since Dec 2014
50011 posts
Posted on 11/15/25 at 1:58 pm to
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He did the best things with Auburn in your lifetime.

Cam and Marshall did.

Gus was just the assistant coach and HC for the later. And since we are here Gus is also the guy that ushered in the worst.

7-6 season after greatness?? Jeremy Johnson after a hesiman campaign? Bo Nix leaving after Malzahn guaranteed a championship. Those matter too

Posted by LanierSpots
Sarasota, Florida
Member since Sep 2010
69366 posts
Posted on 11/15/25 at 2:17 pm to
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Cam and Marshall did.


Stupid argument. Players always do the work. They are coached though


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Gus is also the guy that ushered in the worst.



Really? Did he coach the last 5 years. Did he coach 2012? No that was after he left.


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Bo Nix leaving after Malzahn guaranteed a championship.


LOL. Not even you are that ridiculous. Bo left because of the guy we hired after Gus. Not because of him. Gus won some big games with Bo.


Its a stupid argument and like almost every one you and I have, you are on the wrong side of it. You really should debate with someone else. I own your arse and always will.

And you totally know it


Have a good day baw.
Posted by jangalang
Member since Dec 2014
50011 posts
Posted on 11/15/25 at 2:18 pm to
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Stupid argument. Players always do the work. They are coached though

He was an assistant coach on our National Championship team. Nobody cares.
Posted by pdfield34
Member since Aug 2022
565 posts
Posted on 11/15/25 at 2:31 pm to
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despite our built in disadvantages




With the right coach and assistants we had the most NFL draft picks and appearances on ESPN from 83-91.

Also basically had the largest stadium in Alabama and Georgia for all but a few years of that time period.
Posted by LanierSpots
Sarasota, Florida
Member since Sep 2010
69366 posts
Posted on 11/15/25 at 2:32 pm to
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He was an assistant coach on our National Championship team. Nobody cares.



Yea because it was certainly Chiziks 100th ranked defense that got Auburn to the Natty.


Man, havent you had enough



Posted by jangalang
Member since Dec 2014
50011 posts
Posted on 11/15/25 at 2:35 pm to
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Yea because it was certainly Chiziks 100th ranked defense that got Auburn to the Natty. Man, havent you had enough

Based on Gus's playcalling that spanned a decade for Auburn I'd argue it wasnt Gus either.

If anything Gus proved he could choke to Jimbo Fisher :)
This post was edited on 11/15/25 at 2:36 pm
Posted by LanierSpots
Sarasota, Florida
Member since Sep 2010
69366 posts
Posted on 11/15/25 at 2:42 pm to
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Based on Gus's playcalling that spanned a decade for Auburn I'd argue it wasnt Gus either.




Yea, Im sure on his Second year at Auburn, after turning the team to a 8-5 from a 3 win season , someone else was calling the plays. The ones in his offense.

Man, if you have nothing, just take your arse whipping and go home. There are better ways to spend your day.
Posted by jangalang
Member since Dec 2014
50011 posts
Posted on 11/15/25 at 2:44 pm to
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Man, if you have nothing

Yet you made no sense at all.

Gus was a 5 loss HC damn near guaranteed.

No more than that
Posted by HailToTheChiz
Back in Auburn
Member since Aug 2010
53587 posts
Posted on 11/15/25 at 2:47 pm to
Gentlemen. Let's take a moment to reflect how our fandom could be worse.

We could be south Carolina fans
Posted by The_SwAUggford
Member since Jan 2013
3933 posts
Posted on 11/15/25 at 2:50 pm to
Yeah Beamer belongs in the same bucket of shite as Hugh no doubt
Posted by michaeldwde
Georgia
Member since Nov 2010
4034 posts
Posted on 11/15/25 at 3:09 pm to
I just don't think a coach, with a sub .500 record, should get the Auburn job.

I meant what I said; the anti-Franklin crowd talked me out of him, but, if the alternative is a coach with a losing record, I'll take Franklin. Maybe Clark Lea's 9-27 record, before Pavia, is meaningless. But, it's a little too fricking close to 5-19, as far as I'm concerned.

Sumrall has a winning record. Dillingham has a winning record. Key just barely has a winning record, but he's 7-6 against ranked teams. Pick one of those guys. I'm sick of Auburn thinking it can rehab losers.
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