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re: What I’m hearing (coaching search)

Posted on 11/29/25 at 10:27 am to
Posted by attalla
Atlanta
Member since Sep 2017
1323 posts
Posted on 11/29/25 at 10:27 am to
Why would a defensive minded HC accept a D coordinator that runs a different style? It makes no sense and wasn’t gonna be a good fit.

Posted by RockyMtnTigerWDE
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Member since Oct 2010
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Posted on 11/29/25 at 10:27 am to
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Of course the media doesn’t give 2 shits about Auburn. But what’s up with Ole Miss’ reported interest and Florida’s open interest in Sumrall? Yes, everyone can be wrong on him. But it’s not like the media is trying to dupe Auburn into hiring a coach nobody else has any interest in. That said, it looks like we missed on Sumrall (for better or worse), so we better come up with another viable candidate who isn’t our own DC fast.


Cohen is playing 5D chess by ramping up Sumrall’s importance to avert everyone’s attention from DJ Durkin. Then bam, snags Durkin away from the other schools. Brilliant

Posted by pdfield34
Member since Aug 2022
562 posts
Posted on 11/29/25 at 10:27 am to
Who are your big names?
Posted by tgrmeat
Member since Sep 2020
5589 posts
Posted on 11/29/25 at 10:28 am to
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God damn Auburn is a loser school. Fighting over G5 coaches instead of getting in the mix on big names.


Who would be your top 3 choices?
Posted by DoctorWorm
Member since Jul 2021
1494 posts
Posted on 11/29/25 at 10:28 am to
Auburn used to be a POWERHOUSE — everybody knows it, everybody REMEMBERS it. Back when the great Coach (now Senator!) Tuberville was there, teams were TERRIFIED. But now? Very sad! Need to hire the RIGHT coach — a WINNER — or keep LOSING forever!!!!!
Posted by kung fu kenny
Birmingham
Member since Sep 2017
2079 posts
Posted on 11/29/25 at 10:29 am to
Dude. I didn’t say I wanted Durkin. Our ad is a moron
Posted by tyler925
Auburn
Member since Oct 2019
2279 posts
Posted on 11/29/25 at 10:31 am to
I’m not an athletic director but our last 2 coaches:

Harsin- g5 loser

Hugh-g5 loser

Might as well do the same thing again and fight off might Arkansas for South Florida’s coach or ole miss for Tulane’s coach.

I think Auburn is above both of those schools historically and should be ahead of those schools in NIL, booster support, etc.

Auburn should have the ability to take any coach we won’t and we just…. Can’t? Won’t?
Posted by Blizzard of Chizz
Member since Apr 2012
20670 posts
Posted on 11/29/25 at 10:32 am to
This coaching search has turned into the perfect representation of this season. Started off feeling optimistic, and dreaming about what could be. Slowly moved into the well that's concerning but no need to panic phase. Now the losses are piling up, and we are exploring new ways to lose. Anger is percolating, and will soon boil over into a rage if we fumble at the goal line again.


oh and some are still holding out hope that just like an improbably Iron Bowl victory, we'll back our way into a victory on the coaching search front despite showing our arse for the last 50 yards
Posted by Bigbens42
Trussvegas
Member since Nov 2013
14395 posts
Posted on 11/29/25 at 10:33 am to
Sumrall
Golesh
Durkin
Posted by Weagle25
THE Football State.
Member since Oct 2011
47427 posts
Posted on 11/29/25 at 10:34 am to
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It’s not about Sumrall. It’s about losing our top candidate to a school I consider a lateral move, and about our AD botching this AGAIN.

Remove Florida from the equation.

You willing to pay Sumerall $10m a year?

I’d rather not overpay a guy just because Florida wants him. He’s far from a slam dunk.
Posted by pdfield34
Member since Aug 2022
562 posts
Posted on 11/29/25 at 10:34 am to
Wouldn't shock me.
Posted by Weagle25
THE Football State.
Member since Oct 2011
47427 posts
Posted on 11/29/25 at 10:35 am to
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God damn Auburn is a loser school. Fighting over G5 coaches instead of getting in the mix on big names.

Is there a big name besides Kiffin?
Posted by tyler925
Auburn
Member since Oct 2019
2279 posts
Posted on 11/29/25 at 10:35 am to
I mean if Auburn is gonna just accept not wanting to try and be the best I’m sure that there are a lot of rich people that could save some money with support.

If I was some rich frick funding all this I’d be wondering where my ROI is?

Posted by kung fu kenny
Birmingham
Member since Sep 2017
2079 posts
Posted on 11/29/25 at 10:36 am to
It’s not my money so I really don’t care!!

He is worth however much someone is willing to pay. If he is the right guy, price isn’t an issue. If he wins, money really won’t matter.

Just get the right guy so we’re not doing this again in 3-4 years.
Posted by tyler925
Auburn
Member since Oct 2019
2279 posts
Posted on 11/29/25 at 10:36 am to
My point was Auburn, with all the booster and fan support, recruiting footprint, history, should be able to take almost any coach they want.

Maybe I’m delusional lol. Probably so.
Posted by AUveritas
Member since Aug 2013
3568 posts
Posted on 11/29/25 at 10:37 am to
I firmly believe it comes down to autonomy. A top notch coach would require the power brokers stay in their lane. They just can't relinquish the control they have over the football program. Thus, we like to hire coaches with less gravitas.
Posted by Weagle25
THE Football State.
Member since Oct 2011
47427 posts
Posted on 11/29/25 at 10:38 am to
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My point was Auburn, with all the booster and fan support, recruiting footprint, history, should be able to take almost any coach they want. Maybe I’m delusional lol. Probably so.

Ok so who do you want?
Posted by RockyMtnTigerWDE
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Member since Oct 2010
108043 posts
Posted on 11/29/25 at 10:39 am to
He’s pretty much avoiding naming names but has the we can do so much better plea’s down.
This post was edited on 11/29/25 at 10:40 am
Posted by metafour
Member since Feb 2007
4334 posts
Posted on 11/29/25 at 10:41 am to
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Remove Florida from the equation.

You willing to pay Sumerall $10m a year?

I’d rather not overpay a guy just because Florida wants him. He’s far from a slam dunk.


Finding a winning coach is already hard enough. You put in so much effort into analysis and research, and you conclude that Sumrall is your clear #1 guy. No, that doesn't guarantee that he will succeed, but if he is your #1 guy then your research has clearly concluded that he is the most likely to succeed...otherwise he shouldn't be your #1 guy in the first place.

So why would defaulting to the cheaper "back-up" plan be more likely to succeed? This implies that you believe that you have multiple coaches lined up who will all produce similar winning results. But this is an absurd thought from the start, because if it was possible to predict with this much certainty then you wouldn't see so many failed coaches hired every single year. The reality is that doing all your homework and landing your clear #1 guy could still fail miserably, so what makes you think that you can guarantee that your #2 or #3 options are going to be even close to the guy you had at #1?

This was the same logic used on Freeze as well, by the way. "Well, he's not Kiffin, but he is going to be a lot cheaper and will probably only produce marginally worse results". But as we saw, he wasn't even close to Kiffin, and even the $6M we were paying him was too much money given how bad he was. Three years ago there was a lot of spinning about how Kiffin was going to cost more money than what he was "worth", and how Freeze was going to come in on a discount which would give us more flexibility to hire assistants and pay players. Yes - he came in at a discount because nobody else wanted him. Why would hiring a coach that none of your rivals want be a likely path to success?

Even if you get Durkin for $5-6M and he actually succeeds, you will VERY QUICKLY have to bump him up to $10+M anyway (just like you saw Mizzou do with Drinkwitz). And bumping him up to $10+M won't guarantee that he will continue winning either, as we already saw with Malzahn. The money angle is already a losing proposition from the beginning.

The other part to this: you may feel that Sumrall isn't "worth" $10M, but another SEC school clearly does. Who else would hire Durkin for $5-6M today to be their HC? Answer: nobody, given that we know that he really hasn't been a candidate in any opening apart from our own. So why would Durkin at ~$5-6M be a better "deal" than Sumrall for $9-10M? At least with the latter you are "overpaying" for a guy that is in demand and that your SEC rivals also believe is worth overpaying for. Paying Durkin $6M is a gamble on a coach that nobody else in this conference wants leading their program, which should give you pause.
Posted by Bigbens42
Trussvegas
Member since Nov 2013
14395 posts
Posted on 11/29/25 at 10:41 am to
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He’s pretty much avoiding naming names but has the we can do so much better please down.


That’s a running theme. “COHEN SHOULD HAVE DONE SO MUCH BETTER!”

Answers are sparse when you ask “who?”

If Florida came in and decided to wing top 5 money at who we singled out as “our guy,” getting into a bidding war over it is stupid.
This post was edited on 11/29/25 at 10:43 am
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