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CorchJay
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What do I think it will take on offense

I'll try to break down how if I was the OC and had the past 4 games of my original scheme how I could adjust it some tweak it a little over a couple weeks to help the offense get better and gain a little traction.

11 and 12 sets should only be used in rare occasions. Inside zone hasn't worked. Maybe some counters or traps which are easily to transition to could help moving forward. Our guards have experience pulling moving and blocking. Outside zone has worked some but I think it could work better with better spacing. So again limiting the snaps a TE is on the field because JSS hasn't been the blocker on setting the edge this year that he had been in previous years and i think it's the lack of motion by him and just out of stationary hand on the ground. If you want TE type bodies on the field for their blocking in space try them in the slot along with King. Run the read option if Robby is the QB the next couple games. It might put us behind the chains in some situations because Robby hasn't run the read option game so he will make some poor choices but if it slows the defense down some then that could help get some extra yards are possibly some explosive plays out of the run game and at this point with 8-9 in the box an explosive play would be a 10 yard run.

I wouldn't turn to an RPO game. If you're gonna run the read option let Robby get comfortable with that before progressing to the RPO. Want to keep some stuff simple for him.

On to passing. We have to find a running back that can protect the front side of our QB. Yes they can be weapons on the edge in the pass game but I think at the current point keeping a willing blocker in on the front side to protect straight up the middle is important for this offense at this time. Yes some designed quick throws to the backs is fine but needs to be plays designed to stretch the field out wide and not trying to turn up quickly like we did with Worm last year. In the pass game. Need more 7-12 yard timing routes to the edges. Our WRs can't get beat underneath on those. They have to run crisp routes and Robby has to get the ball out before the break with some touch. Bubble and Tunnel screens to slow down the constant rush. Some but not many running back screens Robby is to inexperienced to read backers in a running back screen game. The deep ball some people think a "deep ball" has to be thrown 60 yards. It doesn't have to be. It's all how it's set up. Sure we should launch 2-3 balls deep down the middle to someone like Shed or Camden that are able to contest for balls but you can also throw a deep ball 15 yards especially if you have zone coverage to hit the zones which I think we will see a lot of with a running QB. I worry about Robby's vision to much to try to go to a slant heavy attack to slow down linebackers. To many tipped passes, jumping routes away from the WR, and to much precise throwing and timing required.

That's not to say any changes made will result in a different outcome overall but those are some things that I think we could build to help with some of the issues we are having on offense. Obviously we would still have the original scheme to run from as well and we should but continue to do the same thing over and over expecting a different result...

Thoughts?


AUtigR24
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I hate to say it but if Roby is the guy we have to go back to Micky Mouse Malzahn 1 read pass plays. He has to know where the ball is going before the snap. If it aint there take off running.


CorchJay
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Oh you mean the Mickey Mouse offense that holds almost all Auburn offensive records?


AUtigR24
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Yes, the one that scouts openly mock, the one that our qbs throw into double and triple coverage because that's where they were told to throw it, and the same one that doesn't allow from audibles at the line.

That's our only chance with this group of qbs.


jvilletiger25
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Definitely spread the other teams out with 4 WRs. That’s when they looked the best last Saturday. The Oline isn’t good enough to run bunch sets. Need a lot of quick hitters.


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CorchJay
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Didn't require audibles because you didn't huddle could always do a check with me at the line of scrimmage.

Do I want a QB making the decisions as a 18-19 year old or would I rather someone making $1m a year making those decisions. For me I'd rather the coach make the checks. NFL is a totally different game. They have all week to learn checks for a game plan. College players are still limited to the 20 hour rule.


CorchJay
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I will say that in the scenario I posted above our WRs have to be able to win 1 on 1's consistently.

That was our problem under Gus our WRs didn't win 1 on 1's consistently. When they did we kicked arse when we didn't it was left to the running game to milk out wins.


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CorchJay
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quote:

scouts openly mock


Not to keep coming back to this but I don't care what scouts think. I want to score points and win games. I don't care if we are an NFL training ground for Qbs.

So choose a side because seems like every fan on here says Gus should have stuck with what worked a running QB like Marshall. Running Qb's like Marshall don't get drafted or attract NFL type WRs. So he went with Pro style and dual threat guys that leaned pass and then complained when the offense wasn't as dominate.


AuburnTigers
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Thoughts?

(D) QB: TJ is a turnover machine. Roby is an elite WR playing Qb.
(A) RB: Best stable we have had in years. Really like the true freshman
(B-) WR: I like this WR group. I think there is talent there.
(C+) TE: Talented but damn. Stop with the penalties.
(F) OL: Worst I have seen in years. Center is bad
(B+) DL: Stout
(D) LB: Terrible. Pappoe is bad, Steiner is slow, 13 is weak. I knew this was going to be an issue with McClain gone.
(C) DB: Impressed with 4. Don't dislike what I have seen.
(C) S: Nobody has really stood out here, which is a good thing. No busted coverages come to mind.



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jangalang
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Is Robby starting?


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quote:

but I don't care what scouts think


You just try so hard to pretend to be one


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CorchJay
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Is Robby starting?


From my understanding TJ isn't available. I guess maybe they might try him if Ashford got injured but I think he's out until after the bye week if I were to guess.


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RockyMtnTigerWDE
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The offense that OL recruits stayed away from and made us one of the shiftiest OL’s in the country.

Can’t do a damn thing without a respectable offensive line.


Hussss
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You aren’t wrong but it doesn’t change the fact that CBH doesn’t hear you nor does he want any input. He is done. Flat out done. I expect this to be his last game. The charade is over.

So REAL talk: who ya want besides Coach G?


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CorchJay
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The offense that OL recruits stayed away from and made us one of the shiftiest OL’s in the country.

Can’t do a damn thing without a respectable offensive line.


Harsin has been around almost 3 years to teach them. He either can't identify weakness, can't develop, or to dumb to recruit replacements because he runs a "pro offense" or so I've been told. 2 OL recruits in 3 years. My bad 3 now forgot about Wilson committing a week ago


CorchJay
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But will say if we have sustained success this weekend some of the things I suggested will have to be used to slow down the defensive attack at the line of scrimmage. I we do what we've been doing we will get absolutely destroyed unless LSU turns the ball over like crazy


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blzr
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The offense that OL recruits stayed away from and made us one of the shiftiest OL’s in the country.


Nobody was a worse scout at OL,WR,LB, and QB than our previous staff.


CorchJay
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Ummm the current staff obviously


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RockyMtnTigerWDE
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My comment had nothing to do with Harsin just sticking to your comment I responded to.

I was just reminding you that offense you talked about holding the records at Auburn, was the same one that got us into our OL shite fest over the last decade. That’s it. Harsin no doubt holds some blame but do not make any mistake about Malzahn creating the dynamic that Auburn was not a destination spot for top OL wanting to develop into the NFL.

Yep that offense of Gus may hold records but it wasn’t trailblazing any more should he have remained or use it again. Our current OL is just really bad and that does fall on both current and former coach. I don’t even look forward to Jang’s PFF thread following each game. It’s embarrassing to me. With NIL and portal, hopefully the next coach can remedy that sooner rather than later.

I am dumbfounded over Tank choosing to stay really. I would love details into that whole process.

This post was edited on 9/30 at 7:38 am


MrLahey
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I feel bad for Tank Amari and Jarquez. Wasted talent at Auburn. I do not expect them to stay if Harsin goes.


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