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The only 4 head coaches to take multiple schools to BCS bowls

Posted on 11/29/12 at 12:11 am
Posted by aw4au14
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Posted on 11/29/12 at 12:11 am
1. Urban Meyer - Utah, Florida
2. Nick Saban - LSU, Alabama
3. Bobby Petrino - Louisville, Arkansas
4. Brian Kelly - Cincinnati, Notre Dame

These guys are probably the 4 best coaches in America. They win everywhere they go and win big.

It will be really foolish to pass on Bobby Petrino. The guy is young, only 51. If he succeeds at Auburn he could be a guy that's around for 15+ years and wins multiple SEC championships.

If we pass up this opportunity, we're passing up greatness.
Posted by AUTiger5
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Posted on 11/29/12 at 12:41 am to
And two other coaches have led their current teams to multiple BCS bowls...

Chris Petersen and Gary Patterson.

You already screwed it up once in '08, JJ. Don't do it again. Anything other than one of the P's is unacceptable.
This post was edited on 11/29/12 at 12:42 am
Posted by CaptainBrannigan
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Posted on 11/29/12 at 12:45 am to
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You already screwed it up once in '08, JJ


To be fair

Posted by Lee County Tiger
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Posted on 11/29/12 at 12:49 am to
Two years ago, sure didn't look like a screw up.
Posted by AUTiger5
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Posted on 11/29/12 at 12:50 am to
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To be fair


Fair?

Fair is giving his assistant coaches the same amount of credit for that title since it was them who had to talk Chizik into recruiting Cam and offering him a scholarship. If Chizik isn't talked into it, he's probably fired after last year.

Chizik did do some good things here, and I'm appreciative of him helping to deliver our first national title in 53 years, but it's pretty evident that most of our success came from a once-in-a-generation QB and the largest senior class in Auburn history.

Chizik was a bad hire. Plain and simple.
This post was edited on 11/29/12 at 12:51 am
Posted by CaptainBrannigan
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Posted on 11/29/12 at 12:53 am to
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but it's pretty evident that most of our success came from a once-in-a-generation QB and the largest senior class in Auburn history.


Didnt say it was not.


quote:

Chizik was a bad hire. Plain and simple.


Maybe, but he did win a NC. That is a fact.

I still say Chizik's issue is that he cannot scout.
This post was edited on 11/29/12 at 12:54 am
Posted by Weagle25
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Posted on 11/29/12 at 12:53 am to
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Chizik was a bad hire. Plain and simple.

Would you make that hire again if you could? I would. Truth is he got that people in Auburn that were necessary for the Title. I'm glad he is gone but appreciate what he did.
Posted by WarCamEagle
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Posted on 11/29/12 at 12:56 am to
Chizik hire? Bad

Did it work out? Yes

Was the 10.5 million buyout justifiable? Yes

Was Chizik ever a threat to leave Auburn? No

Posted by Weagle25
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Posted on 11/29/12 at 1:04 am to
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Was the 10.5 million buyout justifiable? Yes
Was Chizik ever a threat to leave Auburn? No

I don't think the buyout was really justifiable if there was no threat of him leaving.
Posted by AUTiger5
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Posted on 11/29/12 at 1:05 am to
quote:

Would you make that hire again if you could? I would. Truth is he got that people in Auburn that were necessary for the Title. I'm glad he is gone but appreciate what he did.


And he had to be talked into going after the biggest person responsible for making winning a NC possible here to Auburn. You can talk about Gus all you want, and he deserves a lot of credit, but without Cam, we're an 8-4 team that year if not worse. And our HC wasn't even going to recruit the guy until our offensive assistants urged him to.

Like I said, I'm also appreciative of Gene's efforts and the coaches he surrounded himself with, but these last two years were Gene's teams. No once-in-a-generation talents. Hardly any holdover players from the Tuberville regime. And it was an absolute disaster.

It's easy to say you'd hire him again now that we did win a national title with him.
Posted by Weagle25
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Posted on 11/29/12 at 1:09 am to
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And he had to be talked into going after the biggest person responsible for making winning a NC possible here to Auburn. You can talk about Gus all you want, and he deserves a lot of credit, but without Cam, we're an 8-4 team that year if not worse. And our HC wasn't even going to recruit the guy until our offensive assistants urged him to.

Like I said, I'm also appreciative of Gene's efforts and the coaches he surrounded himself with, but these last two years were Gene's teams. No once-in-a-generation talents. Hardly any holdover players from the Tuberville regime. And it was an absolute disaster.

Agree 100%.

quote:

It's easy to say you'd hire him again now that we did win a national title with him.

That's my point. In my book, if you would hire him again, knowing what you know now, it can't really be classified as a bad hire.
Posted by Rig
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Posted on 11/29/12 at 1:11 am to
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If we pass up this opportunity, we're passing up greatness.
Holy shite.
Posted by AUTiger5
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Posted on 11/29/12 at 1:19 am to
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That's my point. In my book, if you would hire him again, knowing what you know now, it can't really be classified as a bad hire.



I gotcha. Yeah, if I knew we'd win a national title, I'd hire him again. Sure.

My whole point is hire the best coach. Forget about the last four years. Jacobs passed on Patterson four years ago, and now we're looking for another coach. He would have to be an absolute idiot to not zero in on Patterson or Petrino this time around.

You want a proven winner?

Patterson: 116-34 overall record, 2 BCS bowls

Petrino: 75-26 overall record, 2 BCS bowls

You want a clean track record?

Patterson: Never been sniffed by the NCAA

Petrino: Never been sniffed by the NCAA

I've picked these two out because they're the most realistic candidates who have shown to be proven winners. Any other hire (barring some miracle) is going to be a gamble. That's a fact.

Pretty simple decision if I'm JJ. Don't know how much more clear cut it can be.
This post was edited on 11/29/12 at 1:23 am
Posted by WarCamEagle
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Posted on 11/29/12 at 1:26 am to
quote:


I don't think the buyout was really justifiable if there was no threat of him leaving.



Justifiable based on performance, not him leaving
Posted by Weagle25
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Posted on 11/29/12 at 1:45 am to
I agree. Can't go wrong with either of those two. Hopefully Jacobs will get it done.
Posted by UserAU
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Posted on 11/29/12 at 3:05 am to
I want Patterson, or Peterson
Posted by beatbammer
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Posted on 11/29/12 at 8:04 am to
quote:

And he had to be talked into going after the biggest person responsible for making winning a NC possible here to Auburn. You can talk about Gus all you want, and he deserves a lot of credit, but without Cam, we're an 8-4 team that year if not worse. And our HC wasn't even going to recruit the guy until our offensive assistants urged him to.


This is such a goddamn stupid point.

Whether he wanted to initially or not, was Chizik "talked into" going after Cam? YES.

Did the Auburn program under Chizik recruit Cam? YES.

Did the Auburn program under Chizik sign Cam? YES.

Whether he had to be "talked into it" or not, the fact is he AGREED with his assistants to recruit and sign Cam. He, as the head coach, could have said no any time he wanted.

He didn't.
Posted by Tiger n Miami AU83
Miami
Member since Oct 2007
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Posted on 11/29/12 at 8:20 am to
Seriously better not frick this up. It should be almost impossible to frick up TBH.

Patterson was interested last time and Petrino will take it if offered. I do not know why we are even dicking around with anyone else. These are two of the best in college football right now. Find out if Patterson wants it. If he does, make the decision between Patterson and Petrino.

If he doesn't want it Bobby should be in the office starting to do his thing the very next day.

ETA: Bobby is still my #1, Patterson is 1b for me.
This post was edited on 11/29/12 at 8:23 am
Posted by Aubie83
Member since Jan 2008
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Posted on 11/29/12 at 2:09 pm to
Of those 4 only 1 took two schools to their FIRST BCS Bowl...
Posted by AUTiger83
ATL
Member since Sep 2006
2188 posts
Posted on 11/30/12 at 11:48 am to
Bobby Petrino is not staying 15 years anywhere. His history is 4-5 years and move on (one way or another.) He is too much of a whore to stay put. Also the SEC coaching jobs are so high pressure I dont think much of anybody can stay more than 10 years just for their health. If Richt wins the big one this year, I wouldnt be surprised if he hung it up within the next few years.

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