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Posted on 5/19/18 at 10:43 am to jangalang
Posted on 5/19/18 at 10:43 am to jangalang
Andrew Johnson
@CountingBaskets
Here are the results for some 2018 college players, with a slightly updated version of the model (includes RSCI rank and KenPom rating):
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Austin Wiley is way down this list. He is ranked 240 with a 19% shot to make it to the NBA. Just come back Wiley.
Heron has better odds and is ranked at 98.
@CountingBaskets
Here are the results for some 2018 college players, with a slightly updated version of the model (includes RSCI rank and KenPom rating):
LINK
Austin Wiley is way down this list. He is ranked 240 with a 19% shot to make it to the NBA. Just come back Wiley.
Heron has better odds and is ranked at 98.
This post was edited on 5/19/18 at 4:23 pm
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Posted on 5/19/18 at 11:00 am to jangalang
I’m sure they do, but I haven’t seen it.
Posted on 5/19/18 at 12:23 pm to jangalang
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others like Greg Oden where it was a clear mistake in assuming the O would come later.
Jang, you say some really stupid shite sometimes
Posted on 5/19/18 at 1:10 pm to GenesChin
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Jang, you say some really stupid shite sometimes
We all do, and you’re certainly included. Don’t tell me that Oden’s O was anwhere near developed before he was injured.
This was Oden’s draft profile and he never really changed down low. Didn’t have much fluidity in his shot and he still seemed to move too rigid:
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What’s been most concerning so far is the almost complete lack of fluidity that Oden is displaying on the offensive end. He’s very mechanical in the post, being highly predictable with his moves and not looking flexible enough to react to what defenses are throwing at him and counter with any kind of polish. Looking at the way he is scoring his points, it’s hard to get any kind of feeling that what he’s doing at the college level will fly in the NBA in the least bit, as his entire game is based off overpowering shorter, weaker and less athletic opponents and scoring almost exclusively within 5 feet of the hoop. At age 18, he still has plenty of room to grow as a player, meaning he’ll likely learn how to use his body better in the post, get better at taking the ball up strong to the basket, and improve his footwork-- but there are certain traits in an athlete that are just innate, and we aren’t seeing them at all from him so far.
This post was edited on 5/19/18 at 2:39 pm
Posted on 5/19/18 at 3:13 pm to jangalang
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Don’t tell me that Oden’s O was anwhere near developed before he was injured.
He missed his entire rookie season w a knee injury. Followed that up w seasons of 61 & 21 games before missing 3 years due to injuries
You must be talking about a different Oden
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he never really changed down low.
Pretty hard to change when you aren't even cleared for practed for >75% of your first 6 seasons
Oh don't forget that being rigid isn't helped by reoccurring, eventual career ending knee injuries
This post was edited on 5/19/18 at 3:14 pm
Posted on 5/19/18 at 3:55 pm to GenesChin
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He missed his entire rookie season w a knee injury. Followed that up w seasons of 61 & 21 games before missing 3 years due to injuries
I never said his offensive game caused him to not be successful in the NBA. He was injury prone since HS, when he was drafted he was injured. You cannot tell me he would develop refined offensive skills just by staying healthy though. He played enough games throughout his career for anybody with half of a brain to realize that if he wasn’t scoring on second chance opportunities, that he was doing nothing but clogging the paint and the offense, and more than likely his physique wasn’t going to allow him to get more limber. His game from five feet and out was garbage.
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Pretty hard to change when you aren't even cleared for practed for >75% of your first 6 seasons
No offense to his 130 year old knee ligaments, but there wasn’t much in his game to improve upon. He was either going to dunk or do an awkward hook shot.
This post was edited on 5/19/18 at 4:00 pm
Posted on 5/19/18 at 6:52 pm to jangalang
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He played enough games throughout his caree
He played 1.25 seasons over 8 years, of which he had major injuries from day 1. That isn't nowhere close to making that type of definitive judgment
He may have never developed, but you sure as shite can't say you know for sure
Posted on 5/19/18 at 7:07 pm to GenesChin
You saw more potential in his offensive game than I did. Anyway moving on. Wiley has a sweet jump shot. He’s got the potential to develop into a nice offensive player even outside the restricted area. He won’t be another three point shooter though. Unfortunately the NBA wants the Aytons and the Embiids these days.
Posted on 5/19/18 at 10:10 pm to jangalang
If everybody that isn't officially coming back yet actually comes back, including Wiley and Heron, how realistic would it be to hope for an elite 8 or even final four?
Somebody talk me down here.
Somebody talk me down here.
Posted on 5/20/18 at 6:43 am to jangalang
I just don't see why wiley wouldn't come back unless his family had money issues. IMO his best case scenario is a mid 2nd rounder barring something crazy happening. I just think with all the weight he's put on and that jump shot he could come back and easily be an elite SEC player and be a mid 1st rounder. There is a VERY low chance of being successful when you are drafted in the 2nd round, especially if you don't have a niche skill.
Posted on 5/20/18 at 8:11 am to jangalang
5 personal fouls in 19:21... holy shite.
Posted on 5/20/18 at 8:12 am to jangalang
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Dekeyvan Tandy
@TandyDekeyvan
Blessed and thankful to say that I have been offered a scholarship from Auburn University ! #GoTigers
Nothing's official until he gets the University of Auburn offer.
Posted on 5/20/18 at 8:50 am to beatbammer
Austin Wiley at NBA Combine
Body fat: 5 percent (1)
Hand length: 9.75 inches (T-3)
Hand width: 10.25 inches (T-3)
Standing reach: 9 feet, 3 inches (4)
Height (without shoes): 6 feet, 8.25 inches (11)
Height (with shoes): 6 feet, 10 inches (T-8)
Weight: 249.4 pounds (5)
Wingspan: 7 feet, 5 inches (T-4)
Body fat: 5 percent (1)
Hand length: 9.75 inches (T-3)
Hand width: 10.25 inches (T-3)
Standing reach: 9 feet, 3 inches (4)
Height (without shoes): 6 feet, 8.25 inches (11)
Height (with shoes): 6 feet, 10 inches (T-8)
Weight: 249.4 pounds (5)
Wingspan: 7 feet, 5 inches (T-4)
Posted on 5/20/18 at 10:20 am to BowlJackson
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Somebody talk me down here.
Can’t. If all players return, something great is cooking. The NCAAt is chaotic by nature but I have to think we are at least an elite eight team.
Posted on 5/20/18 at 3:14 pm to jangalang
That height makes things interesting. Who wants a 6-10 center with no range or even tape to go off of?
Posted on 5/20/18 at 3:24 pm to Skyler97
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That height makes things interesting. Who wants a 6-10 center with no range or even tape to go off of?
He certainly doesn’t have much stock right now. If Wiley is only 6’8 w/o shoes, I’m scared to find out Mclemore’s true height. He has a three point shot. If only he could grow a couple more inches.
Posted on 5/20/18 at 5:02 pm to jangalang
I could be off here, but I imagine the NBA will recommend Wiley to return to school for a year but tell him he'd probably get mid to late RD2
Wiley did better than I expected on testing. He had a monster wingspan, big hands, in shape he moved/jumped pretty well for his size
That said, I don't think he did anything close to moving himself into RD1. He wasn't a dominate post player, didn't show the strength to finish through contact, his jumper may look better but never really used it in scrimmages. He looked better than I expected on D but not game changer relative to the numerous other post players available
Keep in mind most of the players at this combine will never make a NBA roster. Wiley isn't a freak/unicorn at C, he can't afford to do anything but dominate if he wants RD1 let alone lotto
Wiley did better than I expected on testing. He had a monster wingspan, big hands, in shape he moved/jumped pretty well for his size
That said, I don't think he did anything close to moving himself into RD1. He wasn't a dominate post player, didn't show the strength to finish through contact, his jumper may look better but never really used it in scrimmages. He looked better than I expected on D but not game changer relative to the numerous other post players available
Keep in mind most of the players at this combine will never make a NBA roster. Wiley isn't a freak/unicorn at C, he can't afford to do anything but dominate if he wants RD1 let alone lotto
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Posted on 5/21/18 at 4:25 pm to jangalang
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Can’t. If all players return, something great is cooking.
It's looking more and more likely by the day that we are going to find out. Heron is a strong lean to come back and Wiley isn't likely to be drafted until late in the 2nd round at the earliest. If guys can put their egos aside we could be looking at a very special season.
Posted on 5/21/18 at 4:42 pm to BowlJackson
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#FormerBasketballSchool Offseason Thread
If everybody that isn't officially coming back yet actually comes back, including Wiley and Heron, how realistic would it be to hope for an elite 8 or even final four?
Somebody talk me down here.
Very realistic... But if get to a final four, I want to win it..
Posted on 5/24/18 at 12:54 pm to allin2010
Jaylin Williams breaks out, says 4 schools are prioritizing him (247)
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Jaylin Williams, a 2019 combination forward, has been one of the breakout performers of the spring.
Playing for Game Elite Gold, Williams, who stands 6-foot-7, has shown a versatile game that allows him to impact games, both inside and out. He’s tough, physical and aggressive.
“I think it went pretty well,” Williams said of his play this spring. “I lead our team in scoring and rebounding and everything.”
Through eight games in the adidas Gauntlet, Williams is averaging 12.8 points and 4.4 rebounds a game. One area that has been a surprise has been his shooting, as Williams has connected on eight of his 16 three-point attempts.
“I think I go out there and do whatever the coach needs,” he said. “I can play like all five positions, I think that’s like one of my best abilities and I’m athletic.”
College coaches have taken significant notice of Williams’ improved play, as he claims 25 Division I scholarship offers.
Among the schools that have offered Williams include Auburn, Louisville, Xavier, Florida, Florida State, Georgia Tech, Connecticut, Alabama, Mississippi State, Cincinnati, Memphis and Tennessee. Kentucky has also begun showing interest.
Which schools are prioritizing him?
“Louisville, Xavier, Georgia and Auburn they text me a lot and call me a lot,” he said.
Williams said he’s planning to go to Auburn next week for an unofficial visit, but he hasn’t settled on the exact date.
“I like talking to the coaches, they took me around the campus and stuff, I like the dorms, they’re like brand new dorms, they look nice and all of that stuff,” Williams said about Auburn.
A four-star recruit, Williams is ranked as the No. 78 overall prospect in the 247Sports Composite and the No. 76 prospect in the Top247.
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