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Posted on 3/18/18 at 5:28 pm to
Posted by lowspark12
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Posted on 3/18/18 at 5:28 pm to
Mac never saw a jumpshot he didn’t like... dude was one of the more frustrating AU b-ball players to ever watch
Posted by toohottie
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Posted on 3/18/18 at 7:31 pm to
Would have been a legend. Had total package. Frustrating that he got hurt. Dude was amazing.
Posted by Rig
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Posted on 3/18/18 at 8:35 pm to
frick Tony Barbee man
Posted by BowlJackson
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Posted on 3/20/18 at 9:29 pm to
NCAA has ruled on Danjel Purifoy. He has to sit out 30% of next season.

LINK
This post was edited on 3/20/18 at 9:30 pm
Posted by marshallcotiger
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Posted on 3/24/18 at 1:28 pm to
KenPom's Top 10 next year. I don't know if that is with or without Wiley. He isn't in the top 30 but I haven't seen the 2nd round so I don't know where he falls.

Here's my computer's top 10 for 2019 assuming everyone in @DraftExpress top 40 leaves: 1) Kansas, 2) Duke, 3) Villanova, 4) Auburn, 5) Kentucky, 6) North Carolina, 7) Nevada, 8) West Virginia, 9) Gonzaga, 10) Virginia, 11) Maryland.
Posted by GenesChin
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Posted on 3/24/18 at 7:57 pm to
I think Wiley would be protected gone, but Wiley likely wouldn't be a huge positive in these rankings

If his rankings include Wiley, it probably isn't a huge impact. Wiley is the least efficient post player we have returning (what KenPom uses)


Purifoy on the other hand is a huge positive for KenPom rankings
Posted by beatbammer
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Posted on 3/24/18 at 8:01 pm to
Well, if you looked at the KenPom ratings from 2016-17, you probably would have said that Horace was the "least efficient post player we have returning".

Horace improved between 16-17 and 17-18.

Maybe Wiley would/will too?
Posted by GenesChin
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Posted on 3/24/18 at 8:06 pm to
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Well, if you looked at the KenPom ratings from 2016-17, you probably would have said that Horace was the "least efficient post player we have returning


First off, no he wasn't. Still Wiley


Second, it doesn't make sense to use 2 yrs ago Horace since we have more recent data. All he has on Wiley is 1/2 season in 16-17

It's completely possible that Wiley is viewed as a non factor in his rankings too given he sat out
Posted by jangalang
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Posted on 3/24/18 at 8:08 pm to
quote:

KenPom's Top 10 next year. I don't know if that is with or without Wiley. He isn't in the top 30 but I haven't seen the 2nd round so I don't know where he falls. Here's my computer's top 10 for 2019 assuming everyone in @DraftExpress top 40 leaves: 1) Kansas, 2) Duke, 3) Villanova, 4) Auburn, 5) Kentucky, 6) North Carolina, 7) Nevada, 8) West Virginia, 9) Gonzaga, 10) Virginia, 11) Maryland.

Posted by GenesChin
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Posted on 3/24/18 at 8:09 pm to
If you look at what KenPom loosely based his preseason rankings on, Wiley is almost a nonfactor if he is included
This post was edited on 3/24/18 at 8:12 pm
Posted by beatbammer
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Posted on 3/24/18 at 8:13 pm to
I just think saying "these ratings computed using stats from 2 years ago is what this player will be next season" is kinda ridiculous.

OK, Horace wasn't the worst. But everybody knows that in 16-17 Horace wasn't very good. AT ALL.

And yet in 17-18, he was very serviceable.

Its a natural progression. Even for Wiley. S'all I'm sayin'.
Posted by GenesChin
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Posted on 3/24/18 at 8:29 pm to
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just think saying "these ratings computed using stats from 2 years ago is what this player will be next season" is kinda ridiculous


Not really, the system accounts for transfers who are in the same situation of sitting a yr. Lots of data out there on how transfers develop and perform in off year

quote:


OK, Horace wasn't the worst. But everybody knows that in 16-17 Horace wasn't very good. AT ALL


I would point out his issues came with fouling/FT%, otherwise Horace was a solid and serviceable post player. He was a good bench player


quote:

Wiley



There is some revisionist AF history with how good Wiley was his first year amongst AU fans. I understand he was 17YO & expect Wiley to get a lot better, but he was a liability his FR year


If Wiley is included, I imagine they'll do some development projection, but looking solely on his prior production you cant reasonably project him to better than solid


This post was edited on 3/24/18 at 8:30 pm
Posted by jangalang
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Posted on 3/25/18 at 12:23 pm to
Justin Hokanson
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Auburn hoops next year = MASSIVE potential. No seniors, add Samir Doughty, Danjel Purifoy, maybe Austin Wiley, and reclassified frosh ‘Stretch’ Akingbola.

Is it a sure thing that Akingbola is reclassifying?
Posted by GenesChin
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Posted on 3/25/18 at 2:25 pm to
quote:

Is it a sure thing that Akingbola is reclassifying?


Nearly every person who is considered an "insider" says it is happening. Hoke gets his bball info from Stephen Hooks though

There could be a curveball that causes problems, but seems like it is on track


Posted by jangalang
Member since Dec 2014
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Posted on 3/25/18 at 2:42 pm to
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There could be a curveball that causes problems, but seems like it is on track

Is the curve ball whether Wiley stays or not? I really don’t think it wise to tell him to wait a year for fear of him decommitting.
Posted by lowspark12
nashville, tn
Member since Aug 2009
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Posted on 3/25/18 at 2:44 pm to
Brown will be Sr.
Posted by JamalSanders
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Posted on 3/25/18 at 2:45 pm to
quote:

the curve ball whether Wiley stays or not? I really don’t think it wise to tell him to wait a year for fear of him decommitting.


No if everyone who can come back next year does come back we will still have an extra scholarship available.
Posted by TigerProwl24
Gulf Coast
Member since May 2015
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Posted on 3/25/18 at 4:01 pm to
A GC post from the Purifoy thread

quote:

Also, if both Wiley + Purifoy return for next season, I fully expect that Akingbola will redshirt his freshman year 

Assuming that we don't have any unexpected departures, we will take no other recruits as we will be at our scholarship limit 

1- PG Jared Harper JR 
2- PG Davion Mitchell SO 
3- SG Bryce Brown SR 
4- G Samir Doughty JR 
5- SG Mustapha Heron JR 
6- SF Danjel Purifoy rJR 
7- SF Malik Dunbar SR 
8- PF Desean Murray SR 
9- PF Chuma Okeke SO 
10- C Austin Wiley rSO? 
11- C Anfernee McLemore JR 
12- C Horace Spencer SR 

13- PF/C Babatunde Akingbola ** RS 


Scholarship Projection 19-20 + 20-21 (** risk of early departure) 

2019 Class Scholarship Availability - 4 + # of early departures 

19-20 Scholarship Players 

1- SR PG Jared Harper 
2- JR PG Davion Mitchell 
3- SR G Samir Doughty 
4- SR G Mustapha Heron ** 
5- SR F Danjel Purifoy ** 
6- JR F Chuma Okeke 
7-JR(?) C Austin Wiley ** 
8- SR C Anfernee McLemore 
9-rFR C Babatunde Akingbola 


2020 Recruiting Class Scholarship Availability: A lot 

20-21 Scholarship Players 

1- SR PG Davion Mitchell 
2- SR F Chuma Okeke 
3- rSO C Babatunde Akingbola 

4- SR(?) C Austin Wiley ** ? 
This post was edited on 3/25/18 at 4:15 pm
Posted by TigerProwl24
Gulf Coast
Member since May 2015
4440 posts
Posted on 3/25/18 at 4:13 pm to
What is crazy to think about.. is if everyone returns, who would be the starters?

PG-Harper?
SG-Heron/Brown/Doughty?
SF-Heron/Purifoy?
PF-Purifoy/Murray/Okeke/AM?
C- Wiley?

Posted by Rig
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Posted on 3/25/18 at 4:16 pm to
1 Harper
2 Brown
3 Heron/Doughty
4 Purifoy/McLemore
5 Wiley

That's what it should be with Okeke, Mitchell, Spencer, Murray, and Dunbar off the bench in that order behind whoever doesn't start at the 3 and 4.

Also think Okeke could win that 4 spot. But think it's more likely to McLemore or Purifoy
This post was edited on 3/25/18 at 4:18 pm
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