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re: Sunny Golloway hotseat thread
Posted on 2/24/14 at 5:49 pm to AUCE05
Posted on 2/24/14 at 5:49 pm to AUCE05
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You can say what you want about him being an a-hole, but he's won at every place he's been
Sometimes it takes an a-hole to overcome a losing mentality. That's not to say he should be an a-hole just for the sake of being an a-hole, but he should be an a-hole when it comes to setting a high standard and demanding the team develop a winning mentality. Gene Chizik is a great example of a nice guy who ultimately failed because players didn't respect or fear him enough. Being a nice guy doesn't instill discipline.
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Posted on 2/24/14 at 6:37 pm to Blizzard of Chizz
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Being a nice guy doesn't instill discipline.
Neither does having your players hate you. It's a fine line for sure. Sounds like the guy is trying to be too much of a hardass coming into a new situation.
Posted on 2/24/14 at 7:15 pm to Smoke7024
It is normal for a few guys to leave a program after a coaching change. Guy knows baseball.
Posted on 2/24/14 at 8:22 pm to Smoke7024
quote:All the players I've talked to don't hate him and respect the hell out of him. It's addition by subtraction. This should've been expected
Neither does having your players hate you
quote:The old situation sucked and Pawlowski was a cancer to the program. Someone has to change it and now the guy thats trying to do so is getting raked over the coals for being an a-hole? This is comical.
Sounds like the guy is trying to be too much of a hardass coming into a new situation.
Posted on 2/24/14 at 8:26 pm to Rig
I really don't see a problem with him holding kids more accountable. He said it pretty plainly he was going to ruffle some feathers and make kids uncomfortable.
I support it and look forward to seeing some positive change. It looks like it will be ugly for a bit.
I support it and look forward to seeing some positive change. It looks like it will be ugly for a bit.
Posted on 2/24/14 at 8:40 pm to RockyMtnTigerWDE
quote:Absolutely. Very well said
I really don't see a problem with him holding kids more accountable. He said it pretty plainly he was going to ruffle some feathers and make kids uncomfortable.
I support it and look forward to seeing some positive change. It looks like it will be ugly for a bit
Posted on 2/24/14 at 8:41 pm to Rig
Addition by subtraction can work. When you cut a player over a bad decision on the field after the coach made a bonehead move and leaves a kid out there on the mound after he has been hit on for the past 6 batters. Especially when you have had your closer ready since the 7th inning.
There is no reason to be publicly calling out your players for smiling while playing.
There is no reason to be publicly calling out your players for smiling while playing.
Posted on 2/24/14 at 8:50 pm to BZ853
quote:I seriously doubt he was cut because of one play in the field.
When you cut a player over a bad decision on the field
quote:You mean smiling when HIS team is getting their teeth kicked in? That is some rec league shite right there.
There is no reason to be publicly calling out your players for smiling while playing
Posted on 2/24/14 at 9:09 pm to AUCE05
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You can say what you want about him being an a-hole, but he's won at every place he's been.
Posted on 2/24/14 at 9:49 pm to MrAUTigers
This whole thread is SEN-SI-TIVE
Posted on 2/24/14 at 10:00 pm to Rig
Fair enough, but I did play a sport in college that went through a coaching change, while I was there. Is it the same exact situation? I doubt it, but I have experienced it first hand. I'll be the first to tell you that I don't follow AU Baseball that closely. I just know a coach can lose a team right off the bat if he takes the wrong approach.
This post was edited on 2/24/14 at 10:01 pm
Posted on 2/24/14 at 11:08 pm to BZ853
quote:you're so misinformed man. You ignore the facts and Golloway's past history and believe that our players are playing to have fun. You honestly believe Kelley was cut over one play? Stop pitying this baseball team and expect change because it's necessary and needed.
BZ853
Posted on 2/24/14 at 11:14 pm to BZ853
quote:when your team is getting waxed and you're smiling after hitting a deep fly ball, that's called selfishness.
There is no reason to be publicly calling out your players for smiling while playing.
Posted on 2/25/14 at 1:14 am to Rig
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when your team is getting waxed and you're smiling after hitting a deep fly ball, that's called selfishness
That shite doesn't fly on a club team, much less a D1 team. I don't know the inside details, and Galloway may be cross the line from hardass disciplinarian into a-hole. Coaching changings can be delicate situations with differing loyalty ties. Hopefully Galloway doesn't create a mutiny while trying to right the ship, but clearly discipline and attitude issues exist.
Posted on 2/25/14 at 9:01 am to Rig
He was cut from the argument that happened after the game because of that play. And yes sports are supposed to be fun. When you are having fun you play more loose and when you play more loose you generally play better. While Ive never played any organized college sports I do know that the coach-player relationship needs to be one of mutual respect. There is no reason that all of the players should have to hang around the locker room until CSG is ready to leave.
I was high on CSG when we hired him. I knew he was going to come in and be a hard arse. The players knew. But he has come in and has been a jerk to anyone and everyone just because he can. He needs to ease up some, not a lot but some, and try to get the guys to rally around him. Cause right now hes running off people that shouldnt be ran off.
I was high on CSG when we hired him. I knew he was going to come in and be a hard arse. The players knew. But he has come in and has been a jerk to anyone and everyone just because he can. He needs to ease up some, not a lot but some, and try to get the guys to rally around him. Cause right now hes running off people that shouldnt be ran off.
Posted on 2/25/14 at 9:25 am to BZ853
Find this hard to believe
Posted on 2/26/14 at 8:29 am to AUtigerNOLA
reminds me of Pat Dye moving into the Athletic Dorm his first year and kicking people off the team. Removing deadwood when necessary. its part of the process...
Posted on 2/26/14 at 9:17 am to BZ853
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He was cut from the argument that happened after the game because of that play. And yes sports are supposed to be fun. When you are having fun you play more loose and when you play more loose you generally play better. While Ive never played any organized college sports I do know that the coach-player relationship needs to be one of mutual respect. There is no reason that all of the players should have to hang around the locker room until CSG is ready to leave. I was high on CSG when we hired him. I knew he was going to come in and be a hard arse. The players knew. But he has come in and has been a jerk to anyone and everyone just because he can. He needs to ease up some, not a lot but some, and try to get the guys to rally around him. Cause right now hes running off people that shouldnt be ran off.
I see your point, but AU hasn't had a consistent winning program since the mid-90s. We've tried assistants of Baird, up-and-comers, and have really only had one above average team since our last CWS appearance. Purging of the program is needed. It's not fun, and CSG probably wants to part ways with everyone, and everything envolved with the losing mentality that is AU baseball. IDC if he hurts feelings. I want to see my team in Omaha, which IMO, is the greatest post-season event in college sports.
This post was edited on 2/26/14 at 9:22 am
Posted on 2/26/14 at 9:40 am to AUCE05
I admit to having written off AU baseball the past decade. I think these guys have been allowed to "play loose" in the past. He is the coach, unless he tells them to do something harmful or dangerous I would suggest doing it his way. If these guys are so talented and valuable why have they sucked so bad?? This whole mentality of "It's not MY fault" isn't just linited to AU baseball. It is a sociatal cancer that has taken over. People are where they are because of their own choices.
Posted on 2/26/14 at 9:49 am to BZ853
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yes sports are supposed to be fun
No, winning is fun.
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