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re: Stidham: Auburn has the talent to win national title
Posted on 6/27/18 at 11:47 am to jvilletiger25
Posted on 6/27/18 at 11:47 am to jvilletiger25
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Chris Peterson
Never sniffed a NC
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Gary Patterson
Never sniffed a NC
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Scott Frost
Never sniffed a NC
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Chip Kelly
Lost in the NC to "ShortBusGus" and a 5-19 coach
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Bobby Petrino
Never sniffed a NC
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Posted on 6/27/18 at 11:52 am to beatbammer
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I haven't seen a single time in his OC/HC history where Gus Malzahn has actually allowed the QB any kind of on-the-field responsibility outside of (1) the read on an actual read-option or (2) which receiver to throw to on a pass play (and I fully believe that there are lots of times that he has contolled that too).
“Jarrett probably has more flexibility than any quarterback that we’ve had since I’ve been in college,” Malzahn said last season. “From the standpoint of change protections, the RPOs, the decision making, he probably has more freedom than any quarterback we’ve had.”
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So I'll choose to NOT believe this nigh-unbelievable thing until I actually see it happen with a frequency that actually means he's given the QB that flexibility more than in a singular, very rare, on-field occurrence
if you don't mind.
Be as obstinate as you want to be. You and jville have your schtick - far be it from me to stop you. Posted on 6/27/18 at 12:45 pm to AA7
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Chris Peterson
Never sniffed a NC
Would have already won multiple at a program like Auburn
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Gary Patterson
Never sniffed a NC
Would have already won multiple at a program like Auburn
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Scott Frost
Never sniffed a NC
Went undefeated last year at UCF. GusShortBus has had at least 2 losses or more each year at Auburn
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Chip Kelly
Lost in the NC to "ShortBusGus" and a 5-19 coach
GusShortBus was not the HC at the time, and would have already won multiple at a program like Auburn
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Bobby Petrino
Never sniffed a NC
Would have already won multiple at a program like Auburn
Posted on 6/27/18 at 12:49 pm to jvilletiger25
Posted on 6/27/18 at 12:54 pm to jvilletiger25
Lol
Posted on 6/27/18 at 1:03 pm to jvilletiger25
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Went undefeated last year at UCF. GusShortBus has had at least 2 losses or more each year at Auburn
Their toughest games that season were South Florida, Memphis, and gimp/disinterested Auburn team. I really like Frost too, but pump the brakes.
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GusShortBus was not the HC at the time
No he was only the OC. The HC was the potentially the least competent HC in program history. I like Kelly too, but I think he's in the same tier as Gus and the rest of the coaches you listed.
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Would have already won multiple at a program like Auburn
Yes, because we are such a historic program that is known for churning out championships
Peterson has averaged 4.25 losses a season since he's been at Washington.
Patterson has averaged 4.5 losses a season since TCU joined the Big 12.
Bobby Petrino has averaged 4.5 losses a season since returning to Louisville. Keep in mind he had a Heisman QB too.
Gus has averaged 4.4 losses a season at Auburn.
So basically you just listed a bunch of people with similar resumes to Gus.
Posted on 6/27/18 at 1:14 pm to AA7
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Yes, because we are such a historic program that is known for churning out championships
Auburn has had more success than most programs not named Alabama the past 30+ years. And that is with subpar coaching like GusShortBus. Just think what a championship caliber coach would do.
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Peterson has averaged 4.25 losses a season since he's been at Washington.
Patterson has averaged 4.5 losses a season since TCU joined the Big 12.
Bobby Petrino has averaged 4.5 losses a season since returning to Louisville. Keep in mind he had a Heisman QB too.
Gus has averaged 4.4 losses a season at Auburn.
So basically you just listed a bunch of people with similar resumes to Gus.
At much lesser programs than Auburn. None of those programs can recruit talent close to Auburn. And I see you failed to mention Peterson's win/loss average at Boise.
I think you'd be hard pressed to find anyone that would honestly not trade GusShortBus, in a heartbeat, for any of those coaches I listed.
Posted on 6/27/18 at 1:20 pm to jvilletiger25
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At much lesser programs than Auburn.
.. who play much lesser programs than Auburn plays on a regular basis.
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Just think what a championship caliber coach would do.
You've yet to establish the legitimacy of the term "championship caliber".
PS: The term "GusShortBus" really takes away from any semi-intelligent point you'd make.
Posted on 6/27/18 at 1:37 pm to jvilletiger25
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Just think what a championship caliber coach would do
I agree. Saban and Meyer would do amazing things here.
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Auburn has had more success than most programs not named Alabama the past 30+ years
We are probably a top 10-15 program in the past 30 years. Which is good, but let's not act like we have been knocking on the door of NC's the whole time.
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At much lesser programs than Auburn. None of those programs can recruit talent close to Auburn
None of them play talent like we face either.
Washington is somewhat comparable to Auburn. They aren't as good, but they aren't that far behind.
Peterson is 37-17 (.685) and is 1-3 in bowl games, all while playing is potentially the worst of the P5 conferences.
Gus is 45-22 (.672) and is 1-4 in bowl games, and is playing in the freaking thunderdome.
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I think you'd be hard pressed to find anyone that would honestly not trade GusShortBus, in a heartbeat, for any of those coaches I listed
Petrino was basically begging people to hire himPosted on 6/27/18 at 2:05 pm to slacker130
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who dis?
First name, Alice, last name, Lighthouse.
Her real name, I'm sure.
Posted on 6/27/18 at 3:32 pm to AA7
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AA7
You are doing some solid work in this thread. Some of us appreciate the effort
I am amazed at some of the stuff I read.
Posted on 6/27/18 at 3:49 pm to LanierSpots
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You are doing some solid work in this thread
Slow day at work
Posted on 6/29/18 at 8:30 am to jvilletiger25
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Chris Peterson, Gary Patterson (wanted the Auburn job when Chizik was hired, but we all know JJ), Scott Frost, Chip Kelly, Bobby Petrino,
Yet...none of these coaches have a NC....except Frost, obviously
Posted on 6/29/18 at 10:20 am to thirdlawson
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Yet...none of these coaches have a NC....except Frost, obviously
Being NC caliber isn't the same as having a NC
quote:quote:Never sniffed a NC
Petersen
He made a CFP, that's sniffing a NC
quote:quote:Lost in the NC to "ShortBusGus" and a 5-19 coach
Chip Kelly
3 straight top 5 finishes, which is 1 more top 5 finish than the rest of Oregon's FB history
For comparison, Auburn has only 4 top 5 AP finishes since our 1983 season
Posted on 6/29/18 at 10:23 am to jvilletiger25
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Would have already won multiple at a program like Auburn
We had one fricking national championship before 2010 yet this list of guys would have doubled or tripled our total over the past 5 years?
Posted on 6/29/18 at 10:35 am to jvilletiger25
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Gary Patterson (wanted the Auburn job when Chizik was hired, but we all know JJ)
Lol Gary Patterson hasn't left TCU for much bigger programs than Auburn. Stop being a fricking idiot.
Posted on 6/29/18 at 10:42 am to GenesChin
I'm not arguing they aren't quality coaches. I'm arguing it's ridiculous to say they would have definitely won multiple NC's here.
Yeah but that would have thrown off my "never sniffed a NC" narrative I'll concede that they sniffed it, and then they got loved tenderly.
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He made a CFP, that's sniffing a NC
Yeah but that would have thrown off my "never sniffed a NC" narrative
I'll concede that they sniffed it, and then they got loved tenderly.Posted on 7/1/18 at 12:07 pm to blzr
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Gary Patterson hasn't left TCU for much bigger programs than Auburn.
Gary Patterson reached out to Auburn in 2008. Fact
JJ the baffoon insulted him by telling him he'd have to interview. Fact
Posted on 7/1/18 at 12:19 pm to jvilletiger25
Posted on 7/1/18 at 1:04 pm to jvilletiger25
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Gary Patterson reached out to Auburn in 2008. Fact
JJ the baffoon insulted him by telling him he'd have to interview. Fact
First, I'm on the Gus Bus all season until I'm not. Gus gets 100% support up to 3 losses and then I will demand for better. I don't think that is unreasonable. If the PTB decide to keep him on for another season, I've got no choice but to rinse/repeat, being that I'm not a billionaire.
However, somebody making one phone call TEN years ago and then getting his panties in a wad about being asked to come to interview for a real job making millions of dollars is not a fact in favor of your argument. It's just the opposite, I'm afraid.
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