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Posted on 1/7/21 at 12:16 pm to metafour
Posted on 1/7/21 at 12:16 pm to metafour
quote:I didn't jump anywhere.. I said show me his best recruits when he wasn't coaching at the state school in the 3rd/4th most talent rich state in the country. A '22 QB who is currently uncommitted with no guarantee to sign with Bobo doesn't fit that criteria.
You're jumping all over the place. Bobo was only at USCe for ~1 season (at the tail-end of Muschamp's time there btw), and the 2022 5-star he pulled there counts as "recruiting" regardless of what you want to describe it as.
And again I will say, knowing someone from the age of 7 years old and them potentially following you wherever you coach is NOT the same as recruiting people you have never met and having to convince them and sell them on the program and your abilities.
quote:He proved he could recruit Ga while at UGA.. show me a coach who doesn't recruit well there. Now he will be competing against UGA for recruits, and nothing at CU or USCe shows he can do that.
Mike Bobo has legitimate pull in the state of Georgia which he proved over the entirety of his career on Georgia's staff wherein he whipped us for basically every elite recruit we tried to get.
Edit- All that to say, I still support this hire as much as I can, I won't be negative and pick and every little thing. I just simple do not think its a good hire and I can't pretend I think otherwise.
This post was edited on 1/7/21 at 12:17 pm
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Posted on 1/7/21 at 12:21 pm to jt33
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and nothing at CU or USCe shows he can do that.
JT, you’re a reasonable guy asking an unreasonable question. And he wasn’t at CU.
He was at CSU and 1 year at USCe. He’s not going to have a lengthy list of recruiting wins those places.
Give it a break, man. It’s not a quality argument to be in
Posted on 1/7/21 at 12:24 pm to TheJones
quote:I never asked for his list of 5* players. I simple asked who his best recruits we're when he wasn't a coach at UGA. I don't think its that absurd of a question. I have far bigger issues with Bobo than his recruiting though. Like I said though, I'll support it as much as I can.
JT, you’re a reasonable guy asking an unreasonable question. And he wasn’t at CU.
He was at CSU and 1 year at USCe. He’s not going to have a lengthy list of recruiting wins those places.
Give it a break, man. It’s not a quality argument to be in
Posted on 1/7/21 at 12:28 pm to TheJones
Mike Bobo
Resume
2007-2014 (UGA QB/OC)
2015-2019 (Colorado St HC)
2020 (South Carolina OC)
Scoring Offense
(National rank)
2020: 98th
2019: 71st
2018: 108th
2017: 31st
2016: 28th
2015: 62nd
2014: 8th
2013: 21st
2012: 18th
2011: 33rd
2010: 30th
2009: 51st
2008: 29thq
2007: 35th
I would personally be happy with his last few years at UGA. He seemed to progress well with the modern Os.
Resume
2007-2014 (UGA QB/OC)
2015-2019 (Colorado St HC)
2020 (South Carolina OC)
Scoring Offense
(National rank)
2020: 98th
2019: 71st
2018: 108th
2017: 31st
2016: 28th
2015: 62nd
2014: 8th
2013: 21st
2012: 18th
2011: 33rd
2010: 30th
2009: 51st
2008: 29thq
2007: 35th
I would personally be happy with his last few years at UGA. He seemed to progress well with the modern Os.
Posted on 1/7/21 at 12:30 pm to jt33
At CSU, Rashad Higgins and Michael Gallup are good starting points. Both NFL WRs. Recruited Preston Williams as a transfer.
You’re just not going to have a long list of great recruits at a place like colorado state. And if you’re throwing out a 5* QB because of family connections and the years of ridiculous recruiting wins at UGA because it’s the state school then, to be honest, this isn’t a discussion worth having
You’re just not going to have a long list of great recruits at a place like colorado state. And if you’re throwing out a 5* QB because of family connections and the years of ridiculous recruiting wins at UGA because it’s the state school then, to be honest, this isn’t a discussion worth having
This post was edited on 1/7/21 at 12:31 pm
Posted on 1/7/21 at 12:33 pm to TheJones
will Bobo bring Hilinski?
Give Bo some competition?
Give Bo some competition?
Posted on 1/7/21 at 12:34 pm to beaver
Pretty sure Hilinski left because of Bobo
Also just now putting together that our OC is Bobo and our QB is Bo
And the combo is bobobo
Also just now putting together that our OC is Bobo and our QB is Bo
And the combo is bobobo
Posted on 1/7/21 at 12:37 pm to jt33
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He proved he could recruit Ga while at UGA.. show me a coach who doesn't recruit well there. Now he will be competing against UGA for recruits, and nothing at CU or USCe shows he can do that.
Dear god.
How is this any different from Dell McGee then? If we brought Dell McGee in, would you be telling me "herp derp he's at Georgia so that means nothing?" Yes, there is a baked in expectation that being at Georgia OBVIOUSLY helped him. Nobody is claiming that he's going to come here and land every 5-star from that state, however, when he was there him and McClendon were the primary recruiters on the majority of their leite recruits which speaks for itself. He is from Georgia and started at QB for Georgia and has YEARS of recruiting experience in that state. I'm not pulling a fast one on you by suggesting that he has obvious ties in that state.
You're reaching so far man. He was in his 2nd recruiting cycle at USCe and he got one of the Top 5 ranked kids in Georgia to commit to him - a 5-star QB. Oh but he's long-time family friends so that doesn't count (for some reason). And none of the countless 5-stars he signed while at Georgia count either. It's easy to just set your own parameters on everything and disqualify what has actually happened.
Posted on 1/7/21 at 12:39 pm to TheJones
quote:Those are good names and I saw where you brought them up. I'll give credit to him for those.
At CSU, Rashad Higgins and Michael Gallup are good starting points. Both NFL WRs. Recruited Preston Williams as a transfer.
quote:I agree CSU (appreciate the correction earlier)isn't going to get as many elite recruits, but ignoring the impact that simply being a coach on UGAs staff has on recruiting isn't fair either. Show me a coach who doesn't recruit well at UGA.. And I didn't say throw out the connection to Stockton. I said knowing someone from the time they are a child is different than recruiting the average player. I really don't see how thats even controversial.
You’re just not going to have a long list of great recruits at a place like colorado state. And if you’re throwing out a 5* QB because of family connections and the years of ridiculous recruiting wins at UGA because it’s the state school then, to be honest, this isn’t a discussion worth having
Posted on 1/7/21 at 12:39 pm to TheJones
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and the years of ridiculous recruiting wins at UGA because it’s the state school then,
Basically have to throw out any top coordinator’s recruiting at any major school because they recruit well there.
Thinking on this a little more, what a stupid fricking thing to do
Jesus Christ. This board is insufferable at times. Gotta throw out Kirby’s recruiting at Alabama. Doesn’t count! Lane Kiffin’s recruiting? Nope, state school nullifies the success! Ryan Day? Nope, can’t count his recruiting wins. He was at a big school.
What a joke argument
Posted on 1/7/21 at 12:43 pm to metafour
quote:Literally never said they didn't count. I just pointed out the context. If you disagree with me thats fine, I hope I'm wrong here and I hope we win every game. I'm not going to sit here and pretend Bobo is an A+ hire with no faults though.
Dear god.
How is this any different from Dell McGee then? If we brought Dell McGee in, would you be telling me "herp derp he's at Georgia so that means nothing?" Yes, there is a baked in expectation that being at Georgia OBVIOUSLY helped him. Nobody is claiming that he's going to come here and land every 5-star from that state, however, when he was there him and McClendon were the primary recruiters on the majority of their leite recruits which speaks for itself. He is from Georgia and started at QB for Georgia and has YEARS of recruiting experience in that state. I'm not pulling a fast one on you by suggesting that he has obvious ties in that state.
You're reaching so far man. He was in his 2nd recruiting cycle at USCe and he got one of the Top 5 ranked kids in Georgia to commit to him - a 5-star QB. Oh but he's long-time family friends so that doesn't count (for some reason). And none of the countless 5-stars he signed while at Georgia count either. It's easy to just set your own parameters on everything and disqualify what has actually happened.
Posted on 1/7/21 at 12:44 pm to TheJones
When Kirby Smart was at Alabama and recruiting like a beast, the lazy-arse explanation from Rival fans (including our own) was the same shite: "oh he's only landing players because its Saban and Alabama". Now I'm guessing that Kirby's recruiting at UGA is just because he's at the state school, right?
You guys want "recruiters", we hire a proven recruiter, but now its not good enough because he wasn't at a shitty enough school while landing those recruits?
You guys want "recruiters", we hire a proven recruiter, but now its not good enough because he wasn't at a shitty enough school while landing those recruits?
Posted on 1/7/21 at 12:46 pm to metafour
Can you imagine having Bobo, McClendon, McGee and Friend on staff as recruiters?
Kirby would crap his pants.
Kirby would crap his pants.
Posted on 1/7/21 at 12:46 pm to metafour
I just find it refreshing that our head coach is hiring guys who he feels will help his team, unlike Gus continually hiring guys from his high school days.
Posted on 1/7/21 at 12:47 pm to TheJones
quote:Come on Jones.. I never said that and you know it. I said it has a big impact, not that it doesn't count. Ga has more talent in the state than Alabama and Ohio put together. Acknowledging their built in recruiting advantages should not be controversial. Y'all keep tell yourselves that Bobo is great hire though. I'll bow out of the conversation now. Hope Bobo works out for us.
Basically have to throw out any top coordinator’s recruiting at any major school because they recruit well there.
Thinking on this a little more, what a stupid fricking thing to do Jesus Christ. This board is insufferable at times.
Gotta throw out Kirby’s recruiting at Alabama. Doesn’t count! Lane Kiffin’s recruiting? Nope, state school nullifies the success! Ryan Day? Nope, can’t count his recruiting wins. He was at a big school.
What a joke argument
Posted on 1/7/21 at 12:48 pm to jt33
Dude, I think you know we’re done here.
“UGA always recruits well”
Because they hire great recruiters. Get out of here with that weak shite
“UGA always recruits well”
Because they hire great recruiters. Get out of here with that weak shite
This post was edited on 1/7/21 at 12:49 pm
Posted on 1/7/21 at 12:50 pm to jt33
quote:
Y'all keep tell yourselves that Bobo is great hire though.
I said the opposite of this. I just hate stupid arguments
Posted on 1/7/21 at 12:50 pm to jt33
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Literally never said they didn't count. I just pointed out the context.
You said that he landed the kid at South Carolina because he's a long-time connection to the family. That's literally what RECRUITING is. You seem to be upset that he somehow managed to build the ultimate "connection" to a kid.
All of your posts on this topic scream "I'm trying to talk myself into not liking this hire". Listen to the stuff you're even saying. "Oh I'm not sold because show me the elite talent he got a CSU". You're REACHING.
I'm pretty MEH on this hire too, but there ARE reasons as to why Harson would want Bobo. His clear-cut recruiting ties in Georgia and success in that state is one of them.
Posted on 1/7/21 at 12:53 pm to TheJones
quote:I know.. didn't mean that part to be directed towards you. Just a general statement about the board. I'm going dark though. Hope it works out.
I said the opposite of this. I just hate stupid arguments
Posted on 1/7/21 at 12:59 pm to jt33
Not big on Bobo or Friend. I think they can win on the trail though. And I’m happy to support that with just my blind optimism if I need to. We can agree to disagree on whether his recruiting success at UGA translates. That’s OK
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