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re: Portal Extravaganza: Round 2! I’ve been twittered. The search for scout team QB continues.

Posted on 12/24/24 at 1:52 pm to
Posted by jt33
Member since Aug 2017
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Posted on 12/24/24 at 1:52 pm to
Yeah he's using the extra time for Juco players, which is dumb.

Grown arse men who should have jobs out here trying to play football with people who just left high school.

Posted by GoCrazyAuburn
Member since Feb 2010
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Posted on 12/24/24 at 1:56 pm to
Yea the JUCO ruling really perplexed me. At some point the amateur status, while largely about the money aspect, did have some grounds in making sure grown adults weren’t playing against young adults, and originally that was more of the point.

Having a bunch of pententially 26/27/28 year olds on college football just doesn’t seem right. Maybe it won’t end up meaning much, but I just don’t like the clear slippery slope that is presented.
Posted by jt33
Member since Aug 2017
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Posted on 12/24/24 at 1:57 pm to
Just wait until some 28 year old gives an 18 year old a career ending injury and watch the lawsuits that come from it lol. Only a matter of time.
Posted by jangalang
Member since Dec 2014
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Posted on 12/24/24 at 1:58 pm to
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Yea the JUCO ruling really perplexed me.

What have I missed other than the injunction?
Posted by jangalang
Member since Dec 2014
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Posted on 12/24/24 at 2:00 pm to
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Just wait until some 28 year old gives an 18 year old a career ending injury and watch the lawsuits that come from it lol. Only a matter of time.

That lawsuit would be pretty silly though. That's almost like saying you trained too hard and tackled me'

And let's face it lot of these 28 years olds are going to be mids, Brandon Weeden heffers that cant get into the NFL
This post was edited on 12/24/24 at 2:02 pm
Posted by GoCrazyAuburn
Member since Feb 2010
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Posted on 12/24/24 at 2:02 pm to
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What have I missed other than the injunction?


Well, until the NCAA makes an official statement, the ruling on Pavia means that JUCO years don’t count towards FBS 1-A eligibility.
Posted by jvilletiger25
jacksonville, fl
Member since Jan 2014
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Posted on 12/24/24 at 2:04 pm to
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Keionte Scott Entered the portal today.


Posted by jangalang
Member since Dec 2014
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Posted on 12/24/24 at 2:04 pm to
I could have sworn you were the one who explained that ruling is on a per case basis.

I believe the NCAA will do something about it or compromise, give one year, not two.
Posted by jvilletiger25
jacksonville, fl
Member since Jan 2014
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Posted on 12/24/24 at 2:05 pm to
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And let's face it lot of these 28 years olds are going to be mids,

For real. The studs will be drafted way before they reach that age.
Posted by GoCrazyAuburn
Member since Feb 2010
37476 posts
Posted on 12/24/24 at 2:07 pm to
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I could have sworn you were the one who explained that ruling is on a per case basis.


Was not me

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I believe the NCAA will do something about it or compromise, give one year, not two.


I believe they will as well. They have to. I agree with what you said, the majority of the players taking advantage of it wouldn’t be your superstar NFL players, but even so, a Junior Rosegreen at 26 playing college ball wouldn’t be good

I don’t think it ends up being that big of a deal, I just don’t like the path it has laid out as a possibility.
Posted by metafour
Member since Feb 2007
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Posted on 12/24/24 at 2:08 pm to
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Just wait until some 28 year old gives an 18 year old a career ending injury and watch the lawsuits that come from it lol. Only a matter of time.



Why would that be any different from a 32 year old in the NFL hitting a recently drafted 22 year old?

You will say that the 22 year old is "physically developed", but the hypothetical 18 year old who is playing isn't going to be doing so unless they are physically mature. D1 teams aren't playing physically immature 18 year olds.
Posted by jangalang
Member since Dec 2014
45316 posts
Posted on 12/24/24 at 2:09 pm to
We should have filed a lawsuit against Patrick Willis when he was 20!
Posted by jt33
Member since Aug 2017
4732 posts
Posted on 12/24/24 at 2:09 pm to
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That lawsuit would be pretty silly though. That's almost like saying you trained too hard and tackled me'
Yes, but there is a reason they don't allow kids in the NFL. The difference in physical development is huge.

And yes, in the past it has been more fringe guys or guys like Weeden, but that will change with this ruling. You'll see people go JUCO just to develop without using up eligibility.

All the lawsuits against CFB has been mostly silly, so it would fit with the rest lol.
Posted by jangalang
Member since Dec 2014
45316 posts
Posted on 12/24/24 at 2:13 pm to
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And yes, in the past it has been more fringe guys or guys like Weeden, but that will change with this ruling. You'll see people go JUCO just to develop without using up eligibility.

In theory yes but that would require nearly a farm system.

It would require
: athletes to rethink their trajectory, progression, where they want to go to school and I dont see that happening because kids are not patient. They literally skip years like Ryan Williams did.


NIL funding at the juco level.


Sounds great in theory. Dont see kids for it
Posted by jt33
Member since Aug 2017
4732 posts
Posted on 12/24/24 at 2:14 pm to
"Agents" can get these kids to believe a lot of things are a good idea though.
Posted by jangalang
Member since Dec 2014
45316 posts
Posted on 12/24/24 at 2:18 pm to
Still. I dont think money is coming from juco thus they wont be steered there.

Most kids dont want to attend those jucos.

7A high schools have better facilities than juco.

It would take an IMG-like farm system to actually advance this theory into reality.


Posted by metafour
Member since Feb 2007
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Posted on 12/24/24 at 2:20 pm to
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And yes, in the past it has been more fringe guys or guys like Weeden, but that will change with this ruling. You'll see people go JUCO just to develop without using up eligibility.



Every HS recruit worth a shite thinks of themselves good enough to be in the NFL after 3 years. None of these kids are envisioning a 6+ year journey wherein they're playing in front of no one at Western Iowa Community College for 2 years to "develop" before they go spend another 3-4 years at a D1 school. There is also obviously the problem that JUCO's don't have money to pay kids, so they would also need to be playing for free (as opposed to getting a big payday right out of HS at a P4 school).

Entering the NFL at an older age is also a net-negative. "Older" amateur prospects are penalized in draft models in basically every professional sport. An NFL team will value a 22 year old prospect much more highly than a similarly skilled 26 year old prospect.

Posted by jvilletiger25
jacksonville, fl
Member since Jan 2014
19203 posts
Posted on 12/24/24 at 2:27 pm to
Auburn legend, Jeffery M’ba, is back in the portal

Posted by jt33
Member since Aug 2017
4732 posts
Posted on 12/24/24 at 2:29 pm to
I'm not saying everyone will do it, but you're crazy if you think some money bags somewhere won't give an agent a kick back to bring a couple 3 stars or some 4 stars to try to game the system.

Who was the coach at Houston a few years ago who convinced a bunch of players to redshirt? it backfired on him, but he somehow convinced them to basically give up a year of football.

I agree about the players who are NFL level talent. Its the other players who aren't that agents will try to convince.
Posted by jangalang
Member since Dec 2014
45316 posts
Posted on 12/24/24 at 2:32 pm to
Where is the moneys coming from? Juco doesn't have money.
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