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Posted on 12/6/23 at 6:46 pm to
Posted by CorchJay
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Posted on 12/6/23 at 6:46 pm to
Ok sure. We should have put Robby in then. Oh wait we did.

So what QB would have won any of the games we lost? Sure we played it close against UGa and Bama but we ran the ball all over them. If we tried to be more pass happy does the 3 and outs come quicker and more often? Just a hypothetical since whatever answer is provided is clearly a hypothetical.

Would a different QB have completed the pass to our best WR Var in the back of the endzone just because it was a different thrower?
Posted by jvilletiger25
jacksonville, fl
Member since Jan 2014
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Posted on 12/6/23 at 6:54 pm to
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We should have put Robby in then. Oh wait we did.

Yeah, not long enough. Against LSU: Ashford lead 2 scoring drives (11 of the 18 points). He didn’t get but those 2 drives to himself. Against UGA: Ashford leads a touchdown drive to start the second half and we never see him again. PT went on to only add 3 more points after that. You bringing up Ashford doesn’t help your case for PT. If he was any better than Ashford, he wouldn’t have been in a QB battle with him almost the entire season. So if you can’t stand Ashford so bad, that just makes Lanier’s case for him.

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Would a different QB have completed the pass to our best WR Var in the back of the endzone just because it was a different thrower?

You can take any of the top 20 QBs in the portal right now, and I’d ban bet you they wouldn’t go 5-16 for less than 100 yards. Sure, there were a couple of drops. But the bad and missed passes far outweighed the drops.
This post was edited on 12/6/23 at 6:56 pm
Posted by CorchJay
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Posted on 12/6/23 at 6:58 pm to
You are the only person alive that thinks Ashord is anywhere close to Thorne. You and Mike G which I’m not sure you aren’t the same person seems like the same agenda for a number of years.

Is it a black and white thing like it is for Mike G? Cause it sure seems to me over the years for you it’s always been Black QB better than white QB. Not saying it is for you but asking if that’s the reason
Posted by Weagle25
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Posted on 12/6/23 at 6:58 pm to

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So what QB would have won any of the games we lost? Sure we played it close against UGa and Bama but we ran the ball all over them. If we tried to be more pass happy does the 3 and outs come quicker and more often? Just a hypothetical since whatever answer is provided is clearly a hypothetical.

To be clear your argument is with good QB play, we would’ve won the same amount of games? Is that really your argument? All the games we lost besides maybe LSU are in play if we had a good QB....

You can add me to the list that wants a transfer. Thorne as our only option is asking for disaster.
Posted by CorchJay
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Posted on 12/6/23 at 6:59 pm to
There were 6 drops vs UGa I think it was 6 of the 9 incompletions
Posted by CorchJay
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Posted on 12/6/23 at 7:03 pm to
Yes I’m saying with good QB play since we got good QB play in all but the aTm and LSU game that we wouldn’t have won any more games.

Thorne was a little shaky in the first half of the iron bowl. Played well in the second half. Still should have had a drive lead to another FG to end the half but others didn’t play along with that. So are we just giving “better QB” play all of what Thorne did well in the read game, the run game? If so then it’s all around different games.
Posted by Weagle25
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Posted on 12/6/23 at 7:05 pm to
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Yeah, not long enough. Against LSU: Ashford lead 2 scoring drives (11 of the 18 points). He didn’t get but those 2 drives to himself. Against UGA: Ashford leads a touchdown drive to start the second half and we never see him again. PT went on to only add 3 more points after that.

I can’t tell if you just like slanting arguments in your favor or if you just don’t see how biased you are towards Robby.
Posted by CorchJay
Member since Nov 2018
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Posted on 12/6/23 at 7:05 pm to
Bottom line is for those that aren’t getting the message. Coach Hugh Freeze is not gonna to spend what it takes to get a “top” QB in the portal until other areas are set that have more glaring needs like WR, OL, DB, and DL.

That’s not my opinion that is the facts of the situation and everyone is saying it
Posted by CorchJay
Member since Nov 2018
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Posted on 12/6/23 at 7:07 pm to
I’m not biased towards Robby he’s not an SEC QB.

Thorne is middle of the pack SEC quality with a supporting cast.

I wish the best for Robby. Wish he would move to safety dude has time to learn and could be a pro if he put his heart into it but a QB he is not
Posted by jvilletiger25
jacksonville, fl
Member since Jan 2014
20856 posts
Posted on 12/6/23 at 7:07 pm to
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You are the only person alive that thinks Ashord is anywhere close to Thorne.

sure. That’s why Freeze kept playing him.

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Is it a black and white thing like it is for Mike G? Cause it sure seems to me over the years for you it’s always been Black QB better than white QB.

Mike G is a Holden fanboy, so quit the race baiting bs. I guess you think I’m racist because I also thought Cam should’ve started over Caudle?
Posted by CorchJay
Member since Nov 2018
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Posted on 12/6/23 at 7:08 pm to
My bad bro thought you were taking to me… I was like wtf I don’t have any bias towards Robby
Posted by jvilletiger25
jacksonville, fl
Member since Jan 2014
20856 posts
Posted on 12/6/23 at 7:09 pm to
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Yes I’m saying with good QB play since we got good QB play in all but the aTm and LSU game

Did you really just type that? Holy shite
Posted by jvilletiger25
jacksonville, fl
Member since Jan 2014
20856 posts
Posted on 12/6/23 at 7:11 pm to
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I can’t tell if you just like slanting arguments in your favor or if you just don’t see how biased you are towards Robby.

I’m not sitting here calling for Ashford to start next year. I’m just pointing out how dumb the people that think PT is any better and should start next year.
Posted by Weagle25
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Member since Oct 2011
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Posted on 12/6/23 at 7:12 pm to
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since we got good QB play in all but the aTm and LSU game

What? To be clear, good does not just mean better than Robby.

10/19 82 yards 0 TDs 1 INT vs UGA
5/16 91 yards 1 TD 2 INTs vs Bama
9/13 100 yards 1 TD 1 INT vs OM
15/19 148 yards 1 TD 0 INT vs NMSU

None of those were good games. I don’t care what kind of drops there were.
Posted by Weagle25
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Member since Oct 2011
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Posted on 12/6/23 at 7:14 pm to
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Bottom line is for those that aren’t getting the message.

You can keep repeating it until you’re blue in the face. We got the message.

Just because that’s what Hugh is doing, doesn’t mean it’s the right decision. So I really have no idea why you keep repeating that
Posted by Beachbum87
Niceville, FL
Member since Oct 2022
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Posted on 12/6/23 at 7:15 pm to
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10/19 82 yards 0 TDs 1 INT vs UGA 5/16 91 yards 1 TD 2 INTs vs Bama


6 drops in the UGA game that if caught could’ve gone for 150 and a TD with other scoring opportunities.

For the bama game I’m sure there were drops but the 2 INts were inconsequential (Hail Mary at the end of the first half and the last play of the game on our own 5 with 5 seconds to go).
Posted by ChexMix
Taste the Deliciousness
Member since Apr 2014
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Posted on 12/6/23 at 7:16 pm to
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. I don’t care what kind of drops there were.
you should. Attributing someone else's mistakes as Thornes is wrong. Especially when you are shitting on his completion percentage
Posted by LanierSpots
Sarasota, Florida
Member since Sep 2010
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Posted on 12/6/23 at 7:16 pm to
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eriously, I think we will do fine, and for the money these transfer QBs are asking, split it half a dozen ways and fix the holes in the roster.



Look, I get that he played better. But that guy is not going to captain us to a playoff spot. That should be the goal moving forward.

He had a lot of drops as well. But he is not the caliber that we need to get to where we want to go. If we can’t get someone in here, I’d rather us bring someone up from within. The start of the season was as much on him as it was the support cast. We can’t have that again.
Posted by Weagle25
THE Football State.
Member since Oct 2011
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Posted on 12/6/23 at 7:17 pm to
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you should. Attributing someone else's mistakes as Thornes is wrong. Especially when you are shitting on his completion percentage

Did I shite on his completion percentage?

No one can watch those games and describe our QB play as good. Rationally at least.
Posted by ChexMix
Taste the Deliciousness
Member since Apr 2014
25494 posts
Posted on 12/6/23 at 7:19 pm to
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Did I shite on his completion percentage?
Yes, you did. You pointed to his stats then proceeded to ignore drops

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No one can watch those games and describe our QB play as good. Rationally at least.

Hard to really tell if it were good or not based on the drops. After the Iron Bowl, I didnt think, Damn thorne, cost us the game! Did you?
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