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Posted by Rig
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Posted on 11/25/23 at 7:06 pm to
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LOL. I know you cant be serious.
I’m completely serious. Letting go of Roberts would be a huge mistake because of one singular play that didn’t go Auburn’s way in a game where he had the team in position to win.

Had Moore not dropped the punt we wouldn’t even be having this discussion.

The reality is that this defense all year has punched well, well above their weight with less talent than I’ve seen on an Auburn defense in a very long time.

Everyone has a right to be pissed about the play call on 4th down. That sucked but that’s not a fireable offense.
Posted by TheJones
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Posted on 11/25/23 at 7:06 pm to
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How about the last two in a row?


Mentioned that, which you noticed below since you replied to that part too.

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am sorry but it hurt me man.


Me too

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We have no idea how to win anymore


Agreed, unless we’re blowing a bad team out

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There really is only 1 narrative


Disagree. This is why we’re both not paid millions to coach and recruit. These guys can sell anything. We have NIL, but there’s no other reason why we’d have the class we have with some really good pieces

Not here to tell anyone that tonight doesn’t suck. I’ve said it sucks and have been pretty disappointed in the finish to the season. Just don’t think this breaks anything yet. But Freeze doesn’t have forever either. He came in with a lot of baggage and he will find his leash is shorter than he’d prefer
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Posted by Rig
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Posted on 11/25/23 at 7:08 pm to
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Join OTV you poor bastards.
95% of the money is being generated from the top 20 donors. Auburn is holding an NIL dinner this week with those donors that will get them through the 2 signing days.

They couldn’t care less about monthly subscribers and their actions show it.
Posted by TheJones
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Posted on 11/25/23 at 7:10 pm to
The top 20 might not care about OTV subscribers but one particular donor very much does and is dumping in money to prove it.

And we should be paying attention to those guys too IMO
Posted by AUcs13
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Posted on 11/25/23 at 7:11 pm to
The million dollar donation goal says differently.
Posted by AuburnTigers
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Posted on 11/25/23 at 7:11 pm to
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They couldn’t care less about monthly subscribers and their actions show it.
how so
Posted by LanierSpots
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Posted on 11/25/23 at 7:11 pm to
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I’m completely serious. Letting go of Roberts would be a huge mistake because of one singular play that didn’t go Auburn’s way in a game where he had the team in position to win.

Had Moore not dropped the punt we wouldn’t even be having this discussion.

The reality is that this defense all year has punched well, well above their weight with less talent than I’ve seen on an Auburn defense in a very long time.

Everyone has a right to be pissed about the play call on 4th down. That sucked but that’s not a fireable offense.



Im sorry bud but I dont want coaches who cant win close games. We are in a lot of them. I dont care about stats or recruits. I care about winning. And if we are in a dog fight like we were tonight and the players get the game down to what they did and bad coaching loses us the game, I dont want those coaches


We ran that same shite defense two plays in a row and I cant believe Freeze did not correct it. Its on both of them.

And we wont even talk about the thrashing we took last week from the pee wee team

Posted by AUcs13
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Posted on 11/25/23 at 7:11 pm to
If you’re hard up say it
Posted by LanierSpots
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Posted on 11/25/23 at 7:13 pm to
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If you’re hard up say it



Im poor as it gets

Posted by Rig
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Posted on 11/25/23 at 7:15 pm to
9/10 that game isn’t even 1 score. The fact that the game came down to 1 play is as much coaching credit as it is the players.

You can’t have it one way and not the other. The coaching was fine until it wasn’t.

I respect your opinion but just disagree. Cheers.
Posted by Rig
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Posted on 11/25/23 at 7:16 pm to
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how so
Up until a major donor asked for more subscribers, they didn’t push subscriptions at all. Pretty simple.

Classic 80/20 rule.
Posted by GoCrazyAuburn
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Posted on 11/25/23 at 7:16 pm to
Hindsight and such. Coaching is great when you make plays, terrible when you don’t. In reality, we had some great coaching calls and some bad ones. We had some great plays and some bad ones. We just failed when it mattered.
Posted by LanierSpots
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Posted on 11/25/23 at 7:18 pm to
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9/10 that game isn’t even 1 score. The fact that the game came down to 1 play is as much coaching credit as it is the players.



it seems like your just happy to be here. I mean moral victories are one thing but moral loses are another.

Am I happy we competed? Hell yea. We competed way better than I thought we would. The players we have stepped up. Unfortunately, our coaching staff did not put them in a position to win at the end of the game. Which is seriously concerning. Two weeks in a row.


Which every single player and fan should be concerned about. Not praising them for playing better than expected


So yes, we disagree


Posted by Rig
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Posted on 11/25/23 at 7:20 pm to
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The top 20 might not care about OTV subscribers but one particular donor very much does and is dumping in money to prove it. And we should be paying attention to those guys too IMO
I don’t disagree. I think you can do both. But to this point, they have not cared about the subscription model.

They plan to raise $10,000,000 on Thursday night and I wouldn’t bet against them doing so.

To gain $1,000,000 in annual revenue off subscriptions you’ve got to pull in ~4,900 subs at $17 per month. And the marketing spend to get there is hefty and the turnover rate in those subscribers is significantly higher because those donating the least are those watching their dollar the most and expect a ton for a relatively small contribution.
Posted by AU_251
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Posted on 11/25/23 at 7:20 pm to
Should Hugh Freeze have fielded that punt himself? Yes or no.
Posted by Rig
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Posted on 11/25/23 at 7:21 pm to
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it seems like your just happy to be here. I mean moral victories are one thing but moral loses are another.
Never said as much. That loss hurts the same as any other

Posted by LanierSpots
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Posted on 11/25/23 at 7:21 pm to
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Should Hugh Freeze have fielded that punt himself? Yes or no.




No coach has ever fielded a punt or made a tackle. But it is their job to coach the team and put them in a position to win the game


Posted by RockyMtnTigerWDE
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Posted on 11/25/23 at 7:24 pm to
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No coach has ever fielded a punt or made a tackle. But it is their job to coach the team and put them in a position to win the game



He did just that and a player did not execute fielding a punt properly. I will not give Robert’s a pass on that defensive call 4/31 though.
Posted by AU_251
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Posted on 11/25/23 at 7:25 pm to
It seems like the coaches had done just that, if the punt returner catches the ball. So…
Posted by LanierSpots
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Posted on 11/25/23 at 7:27 pm to
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It seems like the coaches had done just that, if the punt returner catches the ball. So…




So a player slipping down was the reason we lost. Not a 4th and goal from the 31 yard line?

I would have thought any defense on any Division 3 team could have stopped one play for the game from the 31 yard line. But I was wrong

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