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Posted on 7/16/23 at 2:48 pm to CorchJay
Posted on 7/16/23 at 2:48 pm to CorchJay
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Posted on 7/16/23 at 2:51 pm to CorchJay
quote:that is writing off the kid, no bullshite
He may never be all sec
Posted on 7/16/23 at 2:52 pm to jangalang
Barber had offers from Oklahoma, Arkansas, Texas A&M, Tennessee and several other high level problems. His film is also pretty impressive in my opinion. He certainly isn't a top 5 guy on most boards, but he's a low 4 high three with a decent ceiling at worst. He was also suspiciously dropped in the rankings like most prospects who become interested in Auburn for whatever reason. This guy is more than a empty scholarship
Posted on 7/16/23 at 2:56 pm to CorchJay
quote:what am i explaining to you? The differences in school classifications? They're based on student body size.
For Chex explain the differences…
Whats sad is you are writing off players based on what their school classifications are, while in the same breath, chastising other board members for writing off players
Posted on 7/16/23 at 2:59 pm to ChexMix
You dumbass no not their classification but break down their film tell me what one is doing correctly vs another. The difference in body size, speed, tackling abilities. How they use their strengths to hide their possible weaknesses.
Posted on 7/16/23 at 3:02 pm to ChexMix
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that is writing off the kid, no bullshite
9 out of 10 kids signed by any SEC school won’t be all sec. That’s not writing someone off. Plus I said he may not be but didn’t say he would not be. Big difference. Any possibly is there and I hope he is an absolute stud but every kid is T a superstar even if they are rated the top player in the country. It’s just how it is
Posted on 7/16/23 at 3:03 pm to CorchJay
quote:You can make your own assessments. Im not here to hold your hand and explain it to you. The film is there. You linked it.
You dumbass no not their classification but break down their film tell me what one is doing correctly vs another. The difference in body size, speed, tackling abilities. How they use their strengths to hide their possible weaknesses.
Posted on 7/16/23 at 3:05 pm to ChexMix
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that is writing off the kid, no bullshite
No that isn’t. That’s just tempering with mild, reasonable expectations at the floor.
Stop being spastic.
This post was edited on 7/16/23 at 3:08 pm
Posted on 7/16/23 at 3:07 pm to CorchJay
quote:Saying a kid wont be All SEC before ever taking a snap in college is writing him off. Trying to play semantics and word play the "MAY" as a back door for you to escape criticism wont work either
9 out of 10 kids signed by any SEC school won’t be all sec.
Its just another bad take my man
Also, I didnt hear you complain about the running back we signed from Catholic High School last year. Thats a 3a school, or at least it was in the 90s
Posted on 7/16/23 at 3:12 pm to ChexMix
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Saying a kid wont be All SEC before ever taking a snap in college is writing him off.
This is so dumb. He didn’t even say this either.
It’s like Corch saying “this guy may not ever be a five star, and then Chex gets his lucky fricking pencil and writes his congressman “corch is writing off my favorite recruits again.
quote:Not everyone goes for bold predictions. Why are you either 0 or 100 on everything, and nothing in between.
Trying to play semantics and word play the "MAY" as a back door for you to escape criticism wont work eithe
This post was edited on 7/16/23 at 3:31 pm
Posted on 7/16/23 at 3:13 pm to ChexMix
I don’t care what class a kid comes from. But if you don’t know the differences in competition in the different classifications then you have no business commenting on recruits.
I think JC Hart is going to be a really good player for Auburn. He is from a tiny 1A school. But I bet he doesn’t walk on the field as a freshman and dominate. Is that writing him off or just being realistic that there will be a learning curve and knowing the huge difference in true competition. Kid was so much more athletic than 99.9 percent of kids at the 1A level who knows what his practice habits are. Same can be said for 7A kids. Just a point I don’t care what classification they played. It’s about skill and ability.
I think JC Hart is going to be a really good player for Auburn. He is from a tiny 1A school. But I bet he doesn’t walk on the field as a freshman and dominate. Is that writing him off or just being realistic that there will be a learning curve and knowing the huge difference in true competition. Kid was so much more athletic than 99.9 percent of kids at the 1A level who knows what his practice habits are. Same can be said for 7A kids. Just a point I don’t care what classification they played. It’s about skill and ability.
Posted on 7/16/23 at 3:13 pm to ChexMix
Anywho, lets not derail the thread with another feather rustling back and forth
Posted on 7/16/23 at 3:15 pm to ChexMix
Obviously let’s don’t. Not sure why you did to begin with
Posted on 7/16/23 at 3:19 pm to CorchJay
quote:oof
But if you don’t know the differences in competition in the different classifications then you have no business commenting on recruits.
quote:well it definitely isnt supporting his efforts to dominate his freshman year, so yeah. You dont think he will, hence you're writing him off. Probably a safe bet by you, but still a write off nonetheless
But I bet he doesn’t walk on the field as a freshman and dominate. Is that writing him off
quote:You literally just posted HUDLs and their school classifications. But you dont care
Just a point I don’t care what classification they played
Posted on 7/16/23 at 3:21 pm to CorchJay
quote:because you posted this " Y’all kill me sometimes writing off players."
Obviously let’s don’t. Not sure why you did to begin with
It was hypocritical so i pointed it out. You could have just said, fair enough, and accepted it, but you wanted to argue.
Posted on 7/16/23 at 3:30 pm to CorchJay
But I will say I have been vocal about some recruits over the years if they maybe be way over rated or way underrated depending on the industry. I use my own talent analysis instead of someone else’s. I know what an SEC player looks like and plays like.
Just like a couple years ago the wild statement I made that Capers and Canion might not see the field from video of practice I saw when everyone else was certain they were the 2 outside starting WRs. I said they were just going through the motions in drills. The other WRs were going all out in drills. Coaches notice that crap. I noticed it. It was total bullshite from both players. And we see what happens Capers maybe got 10 snaps. Not even sure Canion got on the field at all.
Just like a couple years ago the wild statement I made that Capers and Canion might not see the field from video of practice I saw when everyone else was certain they were the 2 outside starting WRs. I said they were just going through the motions in drills. The other WRs were going all out in drills. Coaches notice that crap. I noticed it. It was total bullshite from both players. And we see what happens Capers maybe got 10 snaps. Not even sure Canion got on the field at all.
Posted on 7/16/23 at 3:35 pm to CorchJay
quote:Congrats on being correct about those two. Doestn make your assessments always correct.
But I will say I have been vocal about some recruits over the years if they maybe be way over rated or way underrated depending on the industry. I use my own talent analysis instead of someone else’s. I know what an SEC player looks like and plays like.
Just like a couple years ago the wild statement I made that Capers and Canion might not see the field from video of practice I saw when everyone else was certain they were the 2 outside starting WRs. I said they were just going through the motions in drills. The other WRs were going all out in drills. Coaches notice that crap. I noticed it. It was total bull shite from both players. And we see what happens Capers maybe got 10 snaps. Not even sure Canion got on the field at all.
Hell, who was that WR several years ago that had a blowout A-day game and looked like he was going to be a solid contributor....only to quit the team and become a model.
I thought that kid was going to be good for us. Talk about a whiff
Posted on 7/16/23 at 3:37 pm to TheJones
I agree with you here. I also hate the fact the people are missing the point with sheer number of recruits affecting our overall ranking right now. For example Purdue has a higher ranking than Oklahoma, who's just outside of the top 25. Does anyone believe that this will be the case in December? How about the fact that Stanford is inside of the top 20 of 247s rankings, BUT they have 22 3* commitments! Only Three guys in their class have a 4* rating right now. 9 of our 11 commits are 4* on at least one site, but we're only ranked 37 because other teams have more guys committed. Other teams have quantity with no quality but our fan base is panicking because they're not actually looking at the numbers.
Posted on 7/16/23 at 3:49 pm to Johnnycrane
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Barber had offers from Oklahoma, Arkansas, Texas A&M, Tennessee and several other high level problems. His film is also pretty impressive in my opinion. He certainly isn't a top 5 guy on most boards, but he's a low 4 high three with a decent ceiling at worst. He was also suspiciously dropped in the rankings like most prospects who become interested in Auburn for whatever reason. This guy is more than a empty scholarship
Maybe. Maybe not. We will see. I don’t know who gave him commitable offers or not.
He may be good and he might not be. But we will see.
I’ll lean to he will not be ALL-SEC, but that doesn’t mean I’m writing him off. It just means the odds aren’t on his side. Anybody not ranked top 50 at their position do not have great odds iyam.
Posted on 7/16/23 at 4:24 pm to Johnnycrane
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I agree with you here. I also hate the fact the people are missing the point with sheer number of recruits affecting our overall ranking right now. For example Purdue has a higher ranking than Oklahoma, who's just outside of the top 25. Does anyone believe that this will be the case in December? How about the fact that Stanford is inside of the top 20 of 247s rankings, BUT they have 22 3* commitments! Only Three guys in their class have a 4* rating right now. 9 of our 11 commits are 4* on at least one site, but we're only ranked 37 because other teams have more guys committed. Other teams have quantity with no quality but our fan base is panicking because they're not actually looking at the numbers.
I complain about this every year when the bad schools load up early because they get pick pocketed late
First off, welcome
Please stick around My rant about volume and how it effects rankings has fallen on deaf ears in recent years because Harsin didn’t recruit well. It’s hard to wag my finger too hard right now because it’s been a while since we were in this good of a spot at this point in July + also closed well. And we need to actually see Freeze close well
Is what it is. I think we’re in a good spot. I’m not drinking any koolaid either. If anything, I can always point back to my questioning if Freeze can get the job done 6 years removed from his last SEC stint. I said a lot on that matter
So far he’s proven me wrong
This post was edited on 7/16/23 at 4:26 pm
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