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re: Numba 1 AU vs Unranked LSU game thread
Posted on 1/31/25 at 11:04 am to AuburnTigers
Posted on 1/31/25 at 11:04 am to AuburnTigers
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Michael Jordan had a 0–6 record against Larry Bird in the playoffs. So your GOAT couldnt even win in the playoffs vs Bird.
In the 80s while the bulls did cocaine and MJ was by himself
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Posted on 1/31/25 at 11:08 am to AuburnTigers
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Corch and Jang = Bird would go undrafted and get locked down by Jabari Smith.
The undrafted part is incorrect and i said corch was off the mark. He would be more commonplace today though. There were not 6'9 small forwards that could shoot the three back then.
Posted on 1/31/25 at 11:10 am to jangalang
quote:Excuses. Its such a dumb take by you to think the game has somehow changed or morphed into an advanced league where past athletes would never compete. Its pure vanity and ignorance.
In the 80s while the bulls did cocaine and MJ was by himself
Posted on 1/31/25 at 11:29 am to jangalang
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You should sign out for the day.
The only one who should probably log out is you, or at least stay out of basketball threads. Every time you open your mouth you are showing how little you know about basketball, and you clearly didn't/don't watch any of the players you are discussing very much if at all because your takes are nonsensical.
Kevin Durant, statistically a crap defender pretty much his entire career, is going to give people problems with his length,
.Posted on 1/31/25 at 11:37 am to CorchJay
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actually think if given the chance Bird would be more dominant today with the open spacing. Problem is he may not have been given the chance because he didn’t have a 36” vertical.
He may have been drafted late first/early second instead of lottery pick (but even then he's a lottery pick most likely), but he would absolutely get drafted. Nobody with Bird's size, ability to pass, and shoot lights out from all levels is not being drafted at all.
Posted on 1/31/25 at 11:46 am to AuburnTigers
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Excuses. Its such a dumb take by you to think the game has somehow changed or morphed into an advanced league where past athletes would never compete. Its pure vanity and ignorance.
Or
Yall just like worshiping idols to a fault
This post was edited on 1/31/25 at 11:47 am
Posted on 1/31/25 at 11:50 am to auyushu
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The only one who should probably log out is you, or at least stay out of basketball threads. Every time you open your mouth you are showing how little you know about basketball, and you clearly didn't/don't watch any of the players you are discussing very much if at all because your takes are nonsensical. Kevin Durant, statistically a crap defender pretty much his entire career, is going to give people problems with his length, .
I see ypu are taking the unethical approach like the butthurt Harsin fan. I have never defended KD's defense. I said the tandem of Lebron and KD's length locked down an all star team when they tried. Operative word tandem.
At least you tried....
By the way even Durant at an old age this year is averaging 27 ppg and has the 26th best defensive rating. I think you are wrong and making shite up about being a statistically crap defender.
And you are clearly the only person not watching games.
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Isolation defense: Durant's field goal percentage allowed against isolation is in the 89th percentile
Yall dumb!
This post was edited on 1/31/25 at 12:10 pm
Posted on 1/31/25 at 11:54 am to auyushu
Bird averaged over 30 ppg in college, took a no-name to a national championship game, and could hit incredibly clutch shots like no other. Paul Pierce on steroids, and larger than Paul. NBA scouts and teams who would let Larry slip to the second round would be terminated if they passed on him. I'm too young to have seen Larry in his prime, but you can't deny him.
Y'all are delusional if you think Larry doesn't go in the first round today. The only person remotely comparable in college at the time was Magic.
You can't compare him to Johni. Bird played the 3 spot and 4, Johni is a 4 or 5. Yes the game has evolved, but I believe it has evolved to a point where larry would play more 4 and space the floor. It would go in his favor. So he is still a first rounder.
Y'all are delusional if you think Larry doesn't go in the first round today. The only person remotely comparable in college at the time was Magic.
You can't compare him to Johni. Bird played the 3 spot and 4, Johni is a 4 or 5. Yes the game has evolved, but I believe it has evolved to a point where larry would play more 4 and space the floor. It would go in his favor. So he is still a first rounder.
Posted on 1/31/25 at 12:02 pm to MrLahey
Is is true or false that Bird wins MVP if he is playing this era.
True or false.
I know what he did against the milkman
True or false.
I know what he did against the milkman
Posted on 1/31/25 at 12:16 pm to jangalang
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On April 20, 1986, Chicago Bulls icon Michael Jordan delivered a performance so otherworldly that Boston Celtics superstar Larry Bird thought it came from the heavens. After sitting out most of his second season due to an injured foot, His Airness unleashed an NBA Playoff-record 63 points in Game 2 of the first round of the Eastern Conference playoffs against Boston. Although the Celtics still won in double-overtime, 135-131, Bird afterward said it was "God disguised as Michael Jordan."
MJ scored 49 the game before....
This post was edited on 1/31/25 at 12:17 pm
Posted on 1/31/25 at 12:24 pm to jangalang
I'm immagining Bird in a Marshall Henderson type role if he was in this era and that is a frightening thought
The freedom he'd have in today's game would be wild, especially at his height.
The freedom he'd have in today's game would be wild, especially at his height.
Posted on 1/31/25 at 12:25 pm to jangalang
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Is is true or false that Bird wins MVP if he is playing this era.
Tough to say but he would have a pretty damn good chance. The guy was generational.
Posted on 1/31/25 at 12:36 pm to jangalang
quote:Here in lies the rub. You think the NBA is a far superior league than it was just a few decades ago. Most people acknowledge the physicality of the game has changed. Its not the same game.
if he is playing this era.
Posted on 1/31/25 at 12:40 pm to jangalang
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MJ scored 49 the game before.
quote:So even with his best effort, MJ couldnt beat Bird.
Celtics still won
He is called Larry Legend for a reason
Posted on 1/31/25 at 12:44 pm to AuburnTigers
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Here in lies the rub. You think the NBA is a far superior league than it was just a few decades ago. Most people acknowledge the physicality of the game has changed. Its not the same game.
The continual problem of any discussion around how would X player do in Y era is you can't really have a valid discussion if you don't assume the player grew up in that era and grew up in that style as far as training and nutrition understanding, etc.
Posted on 1/31/25 at 12:48 pm to AuburnTigers
There are occasional occurrences over the generations where the past generations held superior positions across multiple sports over the current generation. I think QB play 15 years ago was light years better than today for example.
But today specifically to taller basketball players the skillset is more refined than being the shot blocker under the goal. SFs and PFs today have to be able to the shoot the three at a high clip, and have to be twitchy enough to guard players that can do so. What Larry Bird did scoring wise has been met many times over since then. He mightve been the GOAT SF then but he isnt anymore.
But today specifically to taller basketball players the skillset is more refined than being the shot blocker under the goal. SFs and PFs today have to be able to the shoot the three at a high clip, and have to be twitchy enough to guard players that can do so. What Larry Bird did scoring wise has been met many times over since then. He mightve been the GOAT SF then but he isnt anymore.
Posted on 1/31/25 at 1:04 pm to AuburnTigers
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So even with his best effort, MJ couldnt beat Bird.
Bird was literally one of 5 HOFers on the 85 team. He never had problems with teammates rather do cocaine
Posted on 1/31/25 at 1:33 pm to jangalang
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Is is true or false that Bird wins MVP if he is playing this era.
Yes.
Did you watch the AU/UT game? That was defense in the 80's game in and game out. The defender constantly had a forearm on you. They would undercut you. That was physical D. Today the D is Charmin soft compared to the 80's.
ETA Think of a 6'9" 220lb. Steph Curry. Could Steph win an MVP in todays game?
This post was edited on 1/31/25 at 1:35 pm
Posted on 1/31/25 at 1:37 pm to jangalang
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He never had problems with teammates rather do cocaine
Posted on 1/31/25 at 1:41 pm to jangalang
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He never had problems with teammates rather do cocaine
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