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Nearing the end of Muschamp's talent infusion

Posted on 1/4/18 at 7:12 am
Posted by CaptainBrannigan
Good Ole Rocky Top Tennessee
Member since Jan 2010
21644 posts
Posted on 1/4/18 at 7:12 am
With Holland and Davis both leaving, we are best the end of the talent Muschamp brought us. Champ got us or first lockdown 1st round corner in 13 years and an old school Auburn DE in Holland. Curious to see how we look going forward without those types of players.
Posted by TigerPaw1
Chattanooga, TN
Member since Apr 2011
16979 posts
Posted on 1/4/18 at 7:15 am to
Agreed. No denying that Muschamp bolstered our ranks so we will see how things have gone without him. I feel good about the front 7 being fine but am concerned about the secondary. Excited about the safety talent we bringing in but still need some help at corner

If Muschamp wasn't such a bad evaluator of offensive coaching talent dude would have built something special at UF because he might just be the best defensive talent evaluator in the business. I want AU in more battles with SCAR over defensive recruits
Posted by Weagle25
THE Football State.
Member since Oct 2011
46176 posts
Posted on 1/4/18 at 7:17 am to
So we can finish second for them?
Posted by TheGusBus34
New Orleans, LA
Member since Oct 2014
1635 posts
Posted on 1/4/18 at 7:20 am to
We have the buck position secured for years to come. We have good talent coming in at corner and on the team but they are green. We'll be fine.
Posted by WareagleKK
Milton, GA (ur welcome for Lawson)
Member since May 2012
2749 posts
Posted on 1/4/18 at 7:48 am to
even with Holland gone, we have the best starting DL and rotation returning possibly in all of college football, and certainly in the SEC. There isn't a better group for '18 than Davidson, Russell, Brown and Coe. I'd even throw Moultry in there based on some frosh success and just pure ability. Big Kat could bring another presence off the edge.

Darryl Williams, Deshaun, Atkinson, McBryde (looked good in limited work), and Britt along with the frosh coming in should provide good depth at LB.

We have 2 really good starters at corner in Dean and J Davis, but we'll need some guys to step up at Nickel and Safety. Dinson was pretty slow out there this year. Thomas was too. They both need really good offseasons. I think Smoke Monday ends up taking a spot since he's an early enrollee. He's a taller Stephen Roberts, IMO.
Posted by golfntiger32
Ohio
Member since Oct 2013
12486 posts
Posted on 1/4/18 at 8:39 am to
I dont think Davis will be a first round pick. He was our best cover guy, but I could see him fall to the 3rd round. We will be fine on D as long as the O can limit TOs and muster about 30 pts.
Posted by DuncanIdaho
Ouray, CO
Member since Feb 2013
14970 posts
Posted on 1/4/18 at 8:56 am to
They were a couple of great players, but I think we will be OK. This 10th coach sounds like he may be a good recruiter.
Posted by WareagleKK
Milton, GA (ur welcome for Lawson)
Member since May 2012
2749 posts
Posted on 1/4/18 at 9:09 am to
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I dont think Davis will be a first round pick. He was our best cover guy, but I could see him fall to the 3rd round. We will be fine on D as long as the O can limit TOs and muster about 30 pts.



At worst Carlton Davis is a mid 2nd rounder (depending on need). He's a very good cover corner, and the best tackling corner in the entire draft. NFL teams love the big, physical corners who can do it all....and he can. In the right scheme, he's going to be fantastic.
Posted by JamalSanders
On a boat
Member since Jul 2015
12135 posts
Posted on 1/4/18 at 9:17 am to
He's a first round talent.
Posted by TigerPaw1
Chattanooga, TN
Member since Apr 2011
16979 posts
Posted on 1/4/18 at 9:31 am to
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I dont think Davis will be a first round pick. He was our best cover guy, but I could see him fall to the 3rd round. We will be fine on D as long as the O can limit TOs and muster about 30 pts.

All the early projections I have seen have him as a late 1st rounder to early 2nd. If he does not test well maybe he drops to 3rd but I think chances are higher of him landing late 1st than falling to the 3rd. NFL teams all have this blueprint of how guys should look at certain positions. It's why Lawson fell so far despite being tremendously talented. Davis fits the mold NFL guys are looking for and I think he will test fine & end up going early in the draft

That same reasoning is why I think Holland will fall to the 4th or later. Like Lawson he doesn't have the frame NFL guys love although I think he's a more of a well rounded player than Lawson was last year coming out. Holland was outstanding at setting the edge this year and turned into a true 3 down defender.

AU has a chance at multiple guys going in 1-2nd on this DL in 2019 NFL Draft. Derrick Brown, Marlon Davidson and Nick Coe are all the type of players scouts love on the DL.

I am really interested to see if and where Matthews & Roberts get drafted
Posted by Aubie Spr96
lolwut?
Member since Dec 2009
41063 posts
Posted on 1/4/18 at 9:34 am to
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AU has a chance at multiple guys going in 1-2nd on this DL in 2019 NFL Draft. Derrick Brown, Marlon Davidson and Nick Coe are all the type of players scouts love on the DL.


Damn. I hope we does lose that many next year.....
Posted by golfntiger32
Ohio
Member since Oct 2013
12486 posts
Posted on 1/4/18 at 9:37 am to
I dont think Holland has the length they are looking for kind of like Lawson. I think he will mainly play on passing downs. I agree due to being a specialist in the eyes of scouts he could fall to 4th or later.
Posted by TigerPaw1
Chattanooga, TN
Member since Apr 2011
16979 posts
Posted on 1/4/18 at 9:41 am to
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Damn. I hope we does lose that many next year.....


I think Brown & Davidson are locks to go unless they get hurt this year. Coe is probably iffy but he will be eligible. My guess is Coe comes back & starts a full season before going pro but I wouldn't be shocked to see all 3 leave

Part of having an elite DL now means we are gonna lose guys every year. Check Clemson out. They have to reload each season. It's a good problem to have if you have the pieces to bring in the year after. I think AU will
Posted by vandelay industries
CSRA
Member since May 2012
2477 posts
Posted on 1/4/18 at 9:42 am to
Feel pretty good about the DL and LBs heading into 2018, coverage is a question mark for me. If anything, we could use some more luck on D in 2018...we need more than 6 measly picks next year.
Posted by Tigerman97
Member since Jun 2014
10354 posts
Posted on 1/4/18 at 10:10 am to
I expect CD to go late 1st or early/mid 2nd. I would be surprised if he went in the 3rd. On the flip side I believe Holland is a 4th/5th round pick that will surprise people once on a team.

The NFL draft is all about measurables...if you got them they will be convinced you can do X, Y and Z if you don't they will be convinced you'll be a liability. Truth is stats support those premises concerning measurables per position. However, every year guys prove them wrong both those with measurables failing as well as those without measurables succeeding.
This post was edited on 1/4/18 at 10:12 am
Posted by RandySavage
Member since May 2012
30814 posts
Posted on 1/4/18 at 11:04 am to
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We have 2 really good starters at corner in Dean and J Davis


Man our expectations in the secondary are really low.

Should have made Muschamp the head coach after this year.
This post was edited on 1/4/18 at 11:06 am
Posted by BowlJackson
Birmingham, AL
Member since Sep 2013
52881 posts
Posted on 1/4/18 at 12:56 pm to
We're loaded at CB, Jamel Dean had the highest PFF grade on the team for 2017.

We're replacing Holland with TD Moultry and Big Kat Bryant who are both Steele guys.
We're loaded at LB from last year because of Steele.

Derrick Brown and Marlon Davidson were signed by Steele.
Russell might have signed with Muschamp though?

The biggest hole to fill on defense is safety because Muschamp didn't bring anybody in there except Trey Matthews and Tim Irvin. Irvin transferred, Matthews is graduating along with Roberts and Ruffin. Returning is Daniel Thomas and Jordyn Peters
Luckily for us Steele grabbed us a big safety class this year. Monday and Sherwood are going to be a big time duo for us over the next few years. Both are early enrolled and I expect Monday at least to start next season. Sherwood might too, but at the very least he'll get a ton of playing time.
Posted by RandySavage
Member since May 2012
30814 posts
Posted on 1/4/18 at 1:10 pm to
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We're loaded at CB,


Posted by BowlJackson
Birmingham, AL
Member since Sep 2013
52881 posts
Posted on 1/4/18 at 1:25 pm to
How many schools return a better trio than Jamel Dean, Javaris Davis, and Jeremiah Dinson?
Not many dude. Maybe Bama, LSU, and Ohio State?

Askew, Leonard, Broussard, Jayvaughn Myers will probably be the rotation. Already signed Christian Tutt who is a damn good prospect.
Posted by RandySavage
Member since May 2012
30814 posts
Posted on 1/4/18 at 6:58 pm to
I guess we just have a different standard of what "loaded" means. All of those guys are just average SEC players. None of them are standouts. Hopefully that will change next year.
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