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re: Malzahn presser at 8
Posted on 12/5/12 at 1:39 am to Aubie Spr96
Posted on 12/5/12 at 1:39 am to Aubie Spr96
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This might be a little extreme don't you think?
Nope. AU football is a joke of a program right now. They hired a puppet 4 years ago and it blew up in their faces. Their idea of a fix is to go out and hire another stooge and play the same game... Anybody that believes the "search committee" burned the mid night oil to find the right man for the job is kidding themselves. Arkansas looked for months for a coach, UT is still looking for a coach. Auburn university starts interviewing coaches on Monday and we have a coach on Wednesday. What coaches besides Gus and Kirby actually interviewed for the job? Pat and Bo make have had stellar athletic careers, but no one is going to convince me they were anything but window dressing for this absolute sham of a coaching search.
So go on and buy those tickets up. Purchase all the AU merchandise. Jump right in line like they wanted you to. These clowns are playing you for a bunch of dumb suckers.. This program is going now where fast, and when you start bitching and moaning in 3 or 4 years, that piece of shite Jay Jacobs will be right there grinning and awe shuckin' and selling you another load of shite....
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Posted on 12/5/12 at 1:39 am to Blizzard of Chizz
Who was the other canidate that was better than Malzahn that didn't say no. Don't say Petrino, because I don't think he is a better person to lead the team than Malzahn.
Though, I am a sunshine pumper. I would have been able to get behind Malzahn or Petrino.
Though, I am a sunshine pumper. I would have been able to get behind Malzahn or Petrino.
Posted on 12/5/12 at 1:44 am to LurkingTigers
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Who was the other canidate that was better than Malzahn that didn't say no
You have to actually get off your arse and interview people for them to say no. A 30 minute phone call with Charlie Strong is as laughable as a 15 minute phone call to Petrino. What the hell did the committee do, cold call coaches for a couple hours and call it a day?
ETA We ended up with Malzahn because these guys were lazy and half asses this whole process. How many guys did Arky talk to before they finally got the guy from Wisconsin? Point is, they kept at it and kept asking until the right guy said yes. They didn't make a few cold calls and then pack it and settle for the first clown to say yes.
This post was edited on 12/5/12 at 1:49 am
Posted on 12/5/12 at 1:46 am to LurkingTigers
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Nope. AU football is a joke of a program right now. They hired a puppet 4 years ago and it blew up in their faces. Their idea of a fix is to go out and hire another stooge and play the same game... Anybody that believes the "search committee" burned the mid night oil to find the right man for the job is kidding themselves. Arkansas looked for months for a coach, UT is still looking for a coach. Auburn university starts interviewing coaches on Monday and we have a coach on Wednesday. What coaches besides Gus and Kirby actually interviewed for the job? Pat and Bo make have had stellar athletic careers, but no one is going to convince me they were anything but window dressing for this absolute sham of a coaching search.
So go on and buy those tickets up. Purchase all the AU merchandise. Jump right in line like they wanted you to. These clowns are playing you for a bunch of dumb suckers.. This program is going now where fast, and when you start bitching and moaning in 3 or 4 years, that piece of shite Jay Jacobs will be right there grinning and awe shuckin' and selling you another load of shite....
Ya know, I want to find some reason to disagree with you, but I can't. I firmly believe we'll be looking for another coach in 3-4 years.
Posted on 12/5/12 at 1:46 am to Blizzard of Chizz
Who did we pass on besides Petrino? We talked to the big names but they weren't interested. The only guy I think we passed on is Smart. And if he truly demanded what Scarbinsky's article says he did I could see why we passed on him. That would've been a big risk.
Posted on 12/5/12 at 1:48 am to Blizzard of Chizz
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You have to actually get off your arse and interview people for them to say no. A 30 minute phone call with Charlie Strong is as laughable as a 15 minute phone call to Petrino. What the hell did the committee do, cold call coaches for a couple hours and call it a day?
Big names don't interview. Strong would've interviewed but I could see why they might not be impressed with him.
Posted on 12/5/12 at 1:51 am to Weagle25
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Big names don't interview.
exactly, they entertain offers. That's what makes Jay's quote about hiring the best assistants available a joke. The son of a bitch wouldn't even do what it took to get the best coach. Want a Bob Stoops or a Patterson type hire, you open up the frickin checkbook and stroke a check. You don't tells guys like Jimbo Fisher, who is at a premiere school to come have an interview.
ETA Also Mal Moore got off his arse and went and camped in a hotel room in Miami, with no guarantee of a meeting with Saban. It's no different than being in sales. The fact that Mal was willing to camp out in Miami and not leave without Saban, said more to Saban than any $ offer ever could.
This post was edited on 12/5/12 at 1:56 am
Posted on 12/5/12 at 1:54 am to Blizzard of Chizz
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exactly, they entertain offers. That's what makes Jay's quote about hiring the best assistants available a joke. The son of a bitch wouldn't even do what it took to get the best coach. Want a Bob Stoops or a Patterson type hire, you open up the frickin checkbook and stroke a check. You don't tells guys like Jimbo Fisher, who is at a premiere school to come have an interview.
How do you know he didn't? Based off what PM says? He showed he knew nothing through this coaching search.
Posted on 12/5/12 at 2:07 am to Weagle25
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How do you know he didn't? Based off what PM says? He showed he knew nothing through this coaching search.
JJ and this committee don't deserve the benefit of the doubt. The fact is, Petrino is a PROVEN winner and a no-nonsense guy, and he was begging for the job, but JJ, much like the Chizik hire, handpicked a guy that he the rest of his cronies can control. JJ has everybody stuck on this "Auburn man" and "Auburn family" bullcrap, and it's ridiculous. And us passing on Petrino is an absolute sham.
JJ has hired two football coaches since he's been here. Chizik and Malzahn. You think that's a coincidence? Both were former AU assistants that JJ could bring in, do what they're told and not challenge authority. I don't think Malzahn will have any more "total control" than Chizik had. There's a reason the likes of a Patterson or a Jimbo Fisher won't come here and why we wouldn't even give Petrino an interview.
If you don't think this interview process was a joke, go read the info about Petrino's phone call with our "committee" in Scarbinsky's latest column. Makes me want to puke. JJ is an embarrassment to this university, and Gogue is just as big of an embarrassment.
I'll support Malzahn because there's no other alternative, but it's my strong opinion we won't compete for championships under him. Absolutely no reason why Petrino shouldn't have been the one having a press conference tonight.
Posted on 12/5/12 at 2:14 am to AUTiger5
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JJ has everybody stuck on this "Auburn man" and "Auburn family" bullcrap, and it's ridiculous.
When I hear these phrases, I cringe. To me it's just a way of saying don't question what's going on. You keep your mouth shut like a good "Auburn Man" cuz the "Auburn Family" has to stick together... To me family isn't a slogan. Family isn't a billboard or a slick sales gimmick, but that is exactly how it is being used. You can add "the creed" to it as well.
Posted on 12/5/12 at 2:25 am to AUTiger5
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much like the Chizik hire,
Much different. Malzahn was our 2nd best choice if Smart's demands are true
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There's a reason the likes of a Patterson or a Jimbo Fisher
Yeah. We are a rebuilding job right now and they can stay at schools where they get paid just as much and have already built though schools
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go read the info about Petrino's phone call with our "committee" in Scarbinsky's latest column
Again, no way to know if it's true or not.
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Absolutely no reason why Petrino shouldn't have been the one having a press conference tonight.
Really? You can't come up with any reason not hire Petrino? I feel like he was the best option but there are plenty of reasons why we shouldn't have hired him.
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JJ has everybody stuck on this "Auburn man" and "Auburn family" bullcrap, and it's ridiculous
I don't know why everybody keeps saying this. A big chunk of the fanbase was willing to go with Petrino. JJ might preach it and you might not like it but not many people are hung up on it. Most want to win at all cost.
This post was edited on 12/5/12 at 2:29 am
Posted on 12/5/12 at 2:40 am to Weagle25
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Much different. Malzahn was our 2nd best choice if Smart's demands are true
My point was that JJ pulled off a comfortable hire. We just went through one of the worst seasons in our program's history, and instead of making a clean break and starting fresh, JJ decides to bring back a piece from the old regime. Awesome choice.
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Yeah. We are a rebuilding job right now and they can stay at schools where they get paid just as much and have already built though schools
Brett Bielema could've stayed at Wisconsin and probably gotten paid just as much if not more there than he will at Arkansas, but Jeff Long lured him to Fayetteville. Sometimes it's about more than money. It's about opportunity and the people you work for. Auburn should be a great opportunity for a quality coach, but nobody wants to come work for these clowns.
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Really? You can't come up with any reason not hire Petrino? I feel like he was the best option but there are plenty of reasons why we shouldn't have hired him.
No I can't. I get the baggage, but big-time college football is about winning games. Period. You want a saint? Keep Gene Chizik. You want a hard-nosed football coach that's guaranteed to win ballgames? Hire the best coach that you can get. And that was Petrino. But JJ didn't have the balls to do it.
Malzahn may be an a great human being, but if he's winning 4-5 games a year, he'll be gone rather quickly, too.
Posted on 12/5/12 at 2:42 am to AUTiger5
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Most want to win at all cost.
Except the guy that's actually in charge of hiring our coaches. He's proven that on more than one occasion now, and how he is still employed by our university is beyond me.
This post was edited on 12/5/12 at 2:43 am
Posted on 12/5/12 at 2:55 am to AUTiger5
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My point was that JJ pulled off a comfortable hire. We just went through one of the worst seasons in our program's history, and instead of making a clean break and starting fresh, JJ decides to bring back a piece from the old regime. Awesome choice.
So you would rather him make a uncomfortable offer even though they would be a worse choice? That doesn't make sense.
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Brett Bielema
Not on nearly the level that Fisher and Patterson are on. He's just an ok coach. And just because one guy does it doesn't mean all coaches will do it.
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No I can't. I get the baggage
You just gave a reason. It would be a risk giving Petrino with everything he has done full control of the program. Would I take the risk? Probably but I could understand why somebody wouldn't.
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if he's winning 4-5 games a year, he'll be gone rather quickly
And if he's winning 9-10 games a year, he'll be here for a long time. No one knows how good of a head coach he is so either could happen. Truth is he was the second best option out there. So abandoning Auburn football like some are doing because we went with the 2nd best option is stupid.
This post was edited on 12/5/12 at 2:57 am
Posted on 12/5/12 at 9:13 am to Weagle25
1) In what world is Petrino a worse choice than Malzahn? He was there for the taking, and we didn't even talk to him (about football, anyway). That's absurd.
2) If JJ was serious about this search, Malzahn wasn't even close to being the second best option.
2) If JJ was serious about this search, Malzahn wasn't even close to being the second best option.
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