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re: Loyalty to AU and current players ...
Posted on 12/31/20 at 3:53 pm to Luke
Posted on 12/31/20 at 3:53 pm to Luke
Luke, look at it this way: Why would Harsin want more film from The Who gives a frick bowl against lame Northwestern on players that won’t be back next year. He doesn’t. It will work our for the best.
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Posted on 12/31/20 at 3:58 pm to RockyMtnTigerWDE
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I'd rather see a farm system set up for the NFL and let's get back to the true student-athlete model.
I'm curious as to where this series of "Farm System" Teams will play. Arena Ball? Perhaps X Ball? I officiated Semi Pro for five years. The only teams half way decent were on the west coast. LA Fire and Police men traveled to play the Tampa Bay team. All I can say is "For a bunch of cops and fire fighters ... they complained about everything."
There was no one in the stands! Do you realize how long a farm club lasts with no one there watching? Most of our games had between 100-200 fans ....not enough for the club to make money.
Posted on 12/31/20 at 4:02 pm to bluedragon
Ncaa is the farm system and that will never change
Posted on 12/31/20 at 4:09 pm to RockyMtnTigerWDE
Lets be real for a bit. A 18-22 year old isn't as mature as they were 50 years ago. They weren't required to work odd jobs and summer jobs starting at 12 years old helping family businesses.
With that isn't on the players. It's the money and fame that has entered into the college game. Coaches make millions of dollars and aren't loyal (the trickle down is the players aren't loyal). You have every former player on BSPN saying the players should get paid because of the money in the game. Players truly think that now as well. They don't consider the opportunity to get at most schools a free $100K education as pay.
My solution for football would be to limit squads to 100 players. 50 on scholarship and 50 walkons. Reduce all head coaches to $1million per year, coordinators $500K, assistants $200K. Spread the wealth to the education of student athletes and not lining pockets of coaches. Create 4 super conferences of 20 teams each. If you aren't a top 80 program you aren't winning the national championship ever anyway. Play a 10 game schedule, 9 conference games, 1 OCC game (can be a rival or a lower division team). 2 10 team divisions in each conference, the 2 winners of each side play for the conference championship. The conference champions enter the 4 team playoff. Other teams can schedule 1 game in the semester break if they feel they are eliminated from championships. Could be a bowl format.
In the end the top 20-25 programs would suffer and that includes Auburn but it probably saves the sport or at least extends it longer.
Next cost to the fan. When it takes $500 a weekend to take a family of 4 to a game it's kind of ridiculous. Nope AU and SEC teams have no problem getting fans in the stadiums but other schools do.
With that isn't on the players. It's the money and fame that has entered into the college game. Coaches make millions of dollars and aren't loyal (the trickle down is the players aren't loyal). You have every former player on BSPN saying the players should get paid because of the money in the game. Players truly think that now as well. They don't consider the opportunity to get at most schools a free $100K education as pay.
My solution for football would be to limit squads to 100 players. 50 on scholarship and 50 walkons. Reduce all head coaches to $1million per year, coordinators $500K, assistants $200K. Spread the wealth to the education of student athletes and not lining pockets of coaches. Create 4 super conferences of 20 teams each. If you aren't a top 80 program you aren't winning the national championship ever anyway. Play a 10 game schedule, 9 conference games, 1 OCC game (can be a rival or a lower division team). 2 10 team divisions in each conference, the 2 winners of each side play for the conference championship. The conference champions enter the 4 team playoff. Other teams can schedule 1 game in the semester break if they feel they are eliminated from championships. Could be a bowl format.
In the end the top 20-25 programs would suffer and that includes Auburn but it probably saves the sport or at least extends it longer.
Next cost to the fan. When it takes $500 a weekend to take a family of 4 to a game it's kind of ridiculous. Nope AU and SEC teams have no problem getting fans in the stadiums but other schools do.
Posted on 12/31/20 at 4:29 pm to Luke
If you build a winning culture with a bunch of team first guys, this opt out shite doesn't happen.
I hope Harsin builds that culture at Auburn both on and off the field.
Dan Mullen is a shitty human running a shitty, no morals program. Half his team quit and didn't play in the bowl game.
I hate to bring Bama into this, but how many of their players opted out of the Citrus Bowl last year? How many opted out this year because of COVID? fricking zero, none, not a single dude.
Auburn had 3 or 4 opt out for COVID. Now we have 3 or 4 opting out of a bowl game. That is part of the Gus soft arse player's coach culture. We need a new culture at Auburn, a championship culture.
I hope Harsin builds that culture at Auburn both on and off the field.
Dan Mullen is a shitty human running a shitty, no morals program. Half his team quit and didn't play in the bowl game.
I hate to bring Bama into this, but how many of their players opted out of the Citrus Bowl last year? How many opted out this year because of COVID? fricking zero, none, not a single dude.
Auburn had 3 or 4 opt out for COVID. Now we have 3 or 4 opting out of a bowl game. That is part of the Gus soft arse player's coach culture. We need a new culture at Auburn, a championship culture.
Posted on 12/31/20 at 4:36 pm to BuckFama334
Ummmm.... Terrell Davis and Trevon Diggs both "opted out" last year for Bama for the bowl game.
Posted on 12/31/20 at 4:40 pm to CorchJay
Schwartz and Tutt are the only true opt outs for AU this year for the bowl game.
Schwartz obviously is going to test the NFL market.
Tutt didn't play a snap against MSU... is he injured, failed class. We don't know.
Sherwood is banged up and could possibly play. Tank and multiple others are in Covid contact tracing protocol. We will not know until tomorrow who is available and who is not until warmups probably
Schwartz obviously is going to test the NFL market.
Tutt didn't play a snap against MSU... is he injured, failed class. We don't know.
Sherwood is banged up and could possibly play. Tank and multiple others are in Covid contact tracing protocol. We will not know until tomorrow who is available and who is not until warmups probably
Posted on 12/31/20 at 5:24 pm to CorchJay
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Terrell Davis
Terrell Davis retired from the Broncos in 2001, you dumb frick.
Posted on 12/31/20 at 5:29 pm to BuckFama334
Rumor is Shivers announced on IG LIVE the bowl game will be his last.
Posted on 12/31/20 at 5:36 pm to BuckFama334
Oh my bad Terrell Lewis... not Davis. But the point still stands. 2 opted out of that “culture” at Bama and 2 have opted out at AU and only 1 we are certain of for NFL reasons. Tutt very well could be injured/sick/ineligible we don’t know. Sherwood may or may not play. He’s slightly injured.
So tell us about that Saban culture some more
So tell us about that Saban culture some more
Posted on 12/31/20 at 5:39 pm to CorchJay
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So tell us about that Saban culture some more
Multiple championships is a result of that culture. Hopefully Harsin can create a similar culture and bring similar results.
You can make a thousand excuses for the quitters, they are still quitters.
Posted on 12/31/20 at 5:47 pm to BuckFama334
So you agree Saban has quitters as well as every other program. Lewis and Diggs are examples of that culture as well. Don’t try to make this a trash Gus thread because this happens every where. The season opt outs were...
Wooten - BLM had nothing to do with covid; plus wanted to separate himself from Britt to try to get more snaps
Marsh - Health from issues with Covid
Leonard - who wasn’t going to play and was looking to transfer.
Bama has multiple players transfer every year.
Wooten - BLM had nothing to do with covid; plus wanted to separate himself from Britt to try to get more snaps
Marsh - Health from issues with Covid
Leonard - who wasn’t going to play and was looking to transfer.
Bama has multiple players transfer every year.
Posted on 12/31/20 at 5:49 pm to CorchJay
And you’re the fool if you don’t think Bama is the best team money can buy. Seen all the Dodge challengers?
Posted on 12/31/20 at 5:55 pm to CorchJay
You're right, Corch.
Auburn's program under Gus was just as good as Bama under Saban.
Only difference, according to you, is that Gus was too honest of a guy to buy his players shitty Dodge cars.
Auburn's program under Gus was just as good as Bama under Saban.
Only difference, according to you, is that Gus was too honest of a guy to buy his players shitty Dodge cars.
Posted on 12/31/20 at 5:56 pm to CorchJay
Perhaps AU needs to up its game and recruit at all costs like UGA, UA, UAT, UT and UF.... we aren’t looking for choir boys ... we need men that can see AU as a legit Avenue yo the NFL...
Posted on 12/31/20 at 6:04 pm to BuckFama334
I know I’m right but all recruiting is dirty trust me on that. Not comparing Saban and Gus at all. But don’t blame opt outs on Gus either.
I just proved how wrong you were about bamas culture in bowl games the same as AU. If you can’t accept facts then I don’t know what that says about you. If AU were in the playoffs this season I’m sure there would be no bowl game opt outs. That’s just reality now until something is done to make the season be down or make bowl games more important to the players. I’ve hated the bowl system forever. Only true championships are won by winning not by the name on the front of the jersey. It’s still a beauty pageant. Bama has played in 2 playoff/championship games and not even won their conference. That’s ignorant.
I just proved how wrong you were about bamas culture in bowl games the same as AU. If you can’t accept facts then I don’t know what that says about you. If AU were in the playoffs this season I’m sure there would be no bowl game opt outs. That’s just reality now until something is done to make the season be down or make bowl games more important to the players. I’ve hated the bowl system forever. Only true championships are won by winning not by the name on the front of the jersey. It’s still a beauty pageant. Bama has played in 2 playoff/championship games and not even won their conference. That’s ignorant.
Posted on 12/31/20 at 6:19 pm to CorchJay
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If AU were in the playoffs this season I’m sure there would be no bowl game opt outs.
We're not and haven't had that level of success since 2013.
A Gus problem.
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Only true championships are won by winning not by the name on the front of the jersey.
Bama has won more games by a large margin than any other SEC program during Saban's tenure.
They, like most teams, don't have their team name on the front of their jersey. fricking idiot...
Posted on 12/31/20 at 6:41 pm to BuckFama334
Quit being a tool. You know what I meant about the name on the front of the jersey.
no doubt under Saban bama has been terrific but doesn't make the culture or character of the kids any better or worse then the culture or character of the AU players.
I'm proud of the culture Gus brought to AU especially with the players. They fricked up they were gone. Saban if you are in the 2 deep you get a half game and an ice cream cone. He kept a kid that beat the shite out of his gf on the team. Then took a transfer of a kid that had 2 domestic issues prior. If you're willing to sell your "culture" and character for a few more wins that's on you. No thanks for me. Winning ain't that damn important. Auburn is considered an institution of higher learning. That should be the focus. I want to win. Just like everyone else but I won't sell my soul for a win ever.
no doubt under Saban bama has been terrific but doesn't make the culture or character of the kids any better or worse then the culture or character of the AU players.
I'm proud of the culture Gus brought to AU especially with the players. They fricked up they were gone. Saban if you are in the 2 deep you get a half game and an ice cream cone. He kept a kid that beat the shite out of his gf on the team. Then took a transfer of a kid that had 2 domestic issues prior. If you're willing to sell your "culture" and character for a few more wins that's on you. No thanks for me. Winning ain't that damn important. Auburn is considered an institution of higher learning. That should be the focus. I want to win. Just like everyone else but I won't sell my soul for a win ever.
Posted on 12/31/20 at 6:54 pm to CorchJay
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I'm proud of the culture Gus brought to AU
8-4, BOOM! Let's go to Waffle House.
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Auburn is considered an institution of higher learning.
How is that an excuse for not winning championships? Bama, Clemson, Ohio State are all also colleges.
You are dumb.
Posted on 12/31/20 at 7:00 pm to BuckFama334
Quit being dumb. Everyone wants to be Clemson bama and ohio state now.
You are way off base of the intent on the thread. Loyalty was the discussion.
I can't help I proved you wrong about bama players opting out. They did and do. So stop being goofy with the bash Gus crap. He's gone. It's old.
I don't like the opt out stuff either but I understand why the kids do it. I take no stance either way. It's a new era. Coach Harsin has my full support and will until he doesn't. I'm either 100% in or 100% out.
You are way off base of the intent on the thread. Loyalty was the discussion.
I can't help I proved you wrong about bama players opting out. They did and do. So stop being goofy with the bash Gus crap. He's gone. It's old.
I don't like the opt out stuff either but I understand why the kids do it. I take no stance either way. It's a new era. Coach Harsin has my full support and will until he doesn't. I'm either 100% in or 100% out.
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