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re: Kyle Davis' instagram response.
Posted on 3/23/17 at 9:29 pm to TheJones
Posted on 3/23/17 at 9:29 pm to TheJones
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The scariest part of cocaine to me is that you've got no idea how pure it is. There's all kind of shite potentially mixed in to it
Yes, but most additives are simply there to mimic effects of cocaine, so for instance they'll add local anesthetics to mimic the numbing effects so you "feel" like you're doing more pure cocaine than you're actually ingesting. Sure, some stuff that is potentially in there is bad for you; but most of these additives would require you doing cocaine all the time for it to actually legitimately harm you. Dealers obviously aren't going to cut it with something that could kill you after one line, because they aren't in the business of killing off their consumer base.
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Posted on 3/23/17 at 9:37 pm to metafour
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Yes, but most additives are simply there to mimic effects of cocaine, so for instance they'll add local anesthetics to mimic the numbing effects so you "feel" like you're doing more pure cocaine than you're actually ingesting
Sometimes they do use stuff like sleeping powders. But really they'll just use anything white and powdery to make it look like more, baby powder, baking soda, ect. That's why you always want it rocked up when you buy it if you can help it
Posted on 3/23/17 at 9:44 pm to BowlJackson
I find the addictive properties to be overstated as well; but that is coming from a guy who's smoked cigarettes and never gotten "hooked" on them either, even after smoking pretty much daily for like a month or two straight. When on blow, I felt the urge to keep doing more and more...so that part is real. But days after? I wake up the next day and have no urge, likely because I've been up all night and gotten terrible sleep. I never found that I get any "itch" or whatever to go multiple days in a row or something. Sure, I had stretches where I'd run into it over multiple weekends in a row, but even then its easily controllable.
Posted on 3/23/17 at 9:46 pm to BowlJackson
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Sometimes they do use stuff like sleeping powders. But really they'll just use anything white and powdery to make it look like more, baby powder, baking soda, ect. That's why you always want it rocked up when you buy it if you can help it
Clumped up and crumbling is a good sign, but I believe that literally "rocked up" is pretty bad as it could easily mean its been sprayed with shite like hairspray to make crap cocaine stick together.
Posted on 3/23/17 at 9:53 pm to metafour
Posted on 3/23/17 at 9:55 pm to metafour
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I find the addictive properties to be overstated as well; but that is coming from a guy who's smoked cigarettes and never gotten "hooked" on them either, even after smoking pretty much daily for like a month or two straight
Yeah I smoked from about 16 to about 21 but really only socially and while drinking, or maybe while driving. I used to piss people off because I'd show up to a party Friday night with the same pack of cigs I had the last Friday night.
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When on blow, I felt the urge to keep doing more and more...so that part is real. But days after? I wake up the next day and have no urge, likely because I've been up all night and gotten terrible sleep. I never found that I get any "itch" or whatever to go multiple days in a row or something. Sure, I had stretches where I'd run into it over multiple weekends in a row, but even then its easily controllable.
Again, I'm the same exact way. Which is weird because I actually have an addictive personality when it comes to other non-drug things like gambling, women, Internet, spending money. But drugs and tobacco I could take or leave. Alcohol I really don't even like, although I drank a lot while college age and early 20's to party and socialize. I was pretty good at regulating myself though and not letting myself do things so often that it became unhealthy.
Posted on 3/23/17 at 10:03 pm to BowlJackson
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Yeah I smoked from about 16 to about 21 but really only socially and while drinking, or maybe while driving. I used to piss people off because I'd show up to a party Friday night with the same pack of cigs I had the last Friday night.
Hahah, yup. I smoke socially, would only ever buy smokes on big party nights and otherwise just bum cigarettes off my friends who almost all smoke (I'm Serbian, so most of my friends are frokm that smoking culture...my dad is like a pack-a-day smoker). I went on a 2 month trip across Europe with my one friend and smoked like every day because we were always together; came home and basically felt no urge to continue smoking (didn't buy a pack until a few weeks later when I got super drunk). Most of my other friends went on ~one month trips back to the Balkans when they were younger to visit family, and returned basically addicted to cigarettes...to the point they became daily smokers. Me? No matter what I do, it never latches on, and I've been casually "smoking" for a while now.
Posted on 3/23/17 at 10:13 pm to metafour
The "never-drug" people on the board should go watch the Joe Rogan podcast with Dr. Carl Hart who is an associate prof at Columbia in psychology and psychiatry and has done a lot of research into drug abuse and addiction. Hart grew up around Miami during the cocaine-cowboys days and had a super negative view on drugs (obviously) because of what it did to his neighborhood, so much so that he spent his academic career focusing on drug research. He surprised himself and found that most of what you believe about "drug addiction" is pretty much hype. If you are a grounded person you can do drugs recreationally, even the "bad ones", without much danger of becoming an "addict" for the most part. Even shite like heroin. He also mentioned that people who die on heroin almost always die because they are mixing with something else, usually alcohol. Unless you are doing a super high dose/the potency is way off, just doing heroin isn't likely to kill you.
Posted on 3/23/17 at 10:43 pm to metafour
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You're talking about a drug that bored rich housewives do while doing chores around the house.
Lol what? This is not house wife material for one, and characterizing this as a house wife usage just to make it seem less dangerous is incredibly inaccurate and false. The physically and fiscally costly habit wrecks marriages, families, and careers, everyday.
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I've hit the slopes quite a few times and never put my head through sheet-rock or done anything stupid.
People react to things differently. I'm currently on my third and last beer. Not acting crazy. Heart isn't beating out of my chest. I don't judge you for doing the shite but you need to know the consequences. I know the negative consequences in drinking alcohol. Comparing cocaine to alcohol, cigarettes, and five hour energy drinks, is nothing more than a feeble attempt to side track the conversation with ridiculousness. Don't claim one to two lines is less dangerous than 4 beers though.
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I know people that do it almost every weekend and live normal lives; they go to work 5 days a week and then party or whatever
The effects on the health are still more destructive than alcohol use by use. Some can do hundred lines and some can end up in the hospital after one. Smoking crack allows the body to absorb the drug quicker as well which makes it even more dangerous. Not to mention "party or whatever" means there were possibly more substances that were also used in combination with the drug. Cocaine actually helps metabolize alcohol at an extremely rapid pace allowing for more consumption.
This post was edited on 3/23/17 at 11:18 pm
Posted on 3/23/17 at 10:45 pm to metafour
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The "never-drug" people on the board should go watch the Joe Rogan podcast with Dr. Carl Hart who is an associate prof at Columbia in psychology and psychiatry and has done a lot of research into drug abuse and addiction. Hart grew up around Miami during the cocaine-cowboys days and had a super negative view on drugs (obviously) because of what it did to his neighborhood, so much so that he spent his academic career focusing on drug research. He surprised himself and found that most of what you believe about "drug addiction" is pretty much hype. If you are a grounded person you can do drugs recreationally, even the "bad ones", without much danger of becoming an "addict" for the most part. Even shite like heroin. He also mentioned that people who die on heroin almost always die because they are mixing with something else, usually alcohol. Unless you are doing a super high dose/the potency is way off, just doing heroin isn't likely to kill you.
Posted on 3/23/17 at 11:09 pm to BowlJackson
There's always going to be an elite few (with good genes) who process cocaine well and don't have an addictive personality. These people lead the charge for the legalization of drugs. "It didn't hurt me. I do a line or two every once in awhile. No big deal." There's a big audience who wants to believe that, but that doesn't make it true.
Cocaine kills, sometimes even a little bit. Yes, alcohol is its own brand of evil, but cocaine and alcohol aren't in the same league when it comes to potential for short-term and long-term damage across the entire normal distribution of humanity.
Kudos to you (I guess) that you (apparently) have gotten to enjoy something in life that would have taken another human down a much different path. But don't mistake your anecdotal experience for everyone else's reality.
The stuff from the Rogan podcast is laughable.
Cocaine kills, sometimes even a little bit. Yes, alcohol is its own brand of evil, but cocaine and alcohol aren't in the same league when it comes to potential for short-term and long-term damage across the entire normal distribution of humanity.
Kudos to you (I guess) that you (apparently) have gotten to enjoy something in life that would have taken another human down a much different path. But don't mistake your anecdotal experience for everyone else's reality.
The stuff from the Rogan podcast is laughable.
This post was edited on 3/23/17 at 11:15 pm
Posted on 3/23/17 at 11:50 pm to jangalang
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Lol what? This is not house wife material for one, and characterizing this as a house wife usage just to make it seem less dangerous is incredibly inaccurate and false. The physically and fiscally costly habit wrecks marriages, families, and careers, everyday.
I'm telling you that the stigma of cocaine is pretty ridiculous when you consider that house wives in fact do it, and that isn't an over-exaggeration. This is a rich-man's drug; done mostly by professionals...not junkies on the street. Yeah college party kids do it, but its not really something you can afford to do full-time. The effects barely last, which is why you have to keep ingesting continuously.
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People react to things differently. I'm currently on my third and last beer. I don't judge you for doing the shite but don't the consequences. I know the consequences in drinking alcohol and you should know know know the consequences in cocaine. Comparing cocaine to alcohol, cigarettes, and five hour energy drinks, is nothing more than a feeble attempt to side track the conversation with ridiculousness. Don't claim one to two lines is less dangerous than 4 beers though.
Who said I don't respect the situation? I never do any substance unless I feel I can control it. I don't believe that 4 beers OR "one to two lines" is going to pose any real health risk, so I'm not sure where you're trying to go with that comparison. You'll barely even feel one line of street-grade cocaine (ie: cut) and whatever effect you do get will wear off within like 15-30 minutes; its really not that "extreme", seriously. Pure cocaine is probably different, but good luck getting that unless you are an actual baller.
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The effects on the health are still more destructive than alcohol use by use. Some can do hundred lines and some can end up in the hospital after one. Smoking crack allows the body to absorb the quicker as well which makes it even more dangerous. Not to mention "party or whatever" means there were possibly more substances that were also used in combination with the drug. Cocaine actually helps metabolize alcohol at an extremely rapid pace allowing for more consumption.
Pretty much every time I've done it has been in combination with alcohol. Yes, this actually changes the chemical composition. It makes getting drunk really difficult. I've had nights where I've been legitimately drunk, gone to an after-party wherein blow was involved, and left pretty much sober LOL.
My whole point is that what you are taught about virtually every drug is pretty much extremely over-blown by the government. Remember when taking MDMA was supposed to be like "taking ice-cream scoops out of your brain" and then they found out that all that data was basically trash?
People who "ruin their lives" so to speak almost always had serious pitfalls BEFORE doing drugs; that means that the drugs simply become a gateway for trying to relieve those other problems (which is impossible) which THEN leads to the fall. Like I said, look at the research. People throw crap around like "if you do heroin once you'll become an addict", hospital grade morphine is likely just as strong, if you break your arm and they give you morphine, do you leave with an opiate addiction? Of course not. People do prescription opiates daily for like a month straight and come off like nothing happened (yes, some become addicted, but the vast majority are perfectly fine).
The human body is a lot stronger than people give it credit for. I'm not telling you to go smoke crack and heroin at the same time; but none of this stuff is as 'dangerous' as its billed. Deaths are usually a combination of drugs.
Posted on 3/24/17 at 12:04 am to PrisonMike
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The stuff from the Rogan podcast is laughable.
Then debunk it. Its coming from a Columbia professor who literally does research into this.
Decades ago they supposedly proved that this was all "extremely addictive" by putting a rat in an empty cage and spiking the water with cocaine (or whatever drug). The rat kept taking more and more until it died, and this "proved" their theory. Here's the problem: the rat is given nothing to do; so of course it abused the drug. When you recreate the test but put the rat in an environment wherein it has things to play with (like a spinning wheel) and other rats to interact with, they found that it STOPS abusing the drug and only sometimes takes it.
This is the important environmental factor: if you are a mentally stable person with a happy job, good relationships, etc. and take a drug recreationally from time to time...why would you become addicted to the point of it ruining your life? The horror stories you hear are almost always of an already broken person who turns to drugs as a coping mechanism; this is like the rat in the cage with nothing to do. There is no hope so they just keep doing drugs all the time; it becomes an outlet. A loving family man with a good job isn't going to do cocaine and then end up homeless a few months later. He'll stop before it ever gets to that point. The human mind is not that fragile; it can handle a lot.
Masturbation ironically works the same way. Like drugs, its a "chemical reward" action on the brain. If I lock you in your room for a week you'll likely start masturbating more and more out of sheer boredom. On the contrary, if you're on a backpacking trip for instance you'll find you have almost no urge to masturbate because you're constantly moving and engaged in something.
This post was edited on 3/24/17 at 12:14 am
Posted on 3/24/17 at 1:00 am to metafour
There is also a strong confirmation bias at work as well. Think about it; you only ever hear the horror stories of drugs, so it creates this image wherein drugs = addiction = life ruined. You don't hear about the guy who uses but lives a balanced life regardless, and these people exist...a LOT of them. Most of your friends drink, but few if any are likely to be actual alcoholics. Your accountant may do blow every weekend but you'd never know because its not exactly socially acceptable to announce that. This is where marijuana was years ago: you'd assume that a regular user was akin to your perception of a "drug addict", when know we know that there are successful people who literally smoke every day without it affecting their lives.
Posted on 3/24/17 at 1:52 am to metafour
This tread has certainly derailed. Speaking of rails, what's the over/under on how many wholesome creed fearing future AU housewives has KD done said rails off of?
Posted on 3/24/17 at 5:41 am to ever43
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Speaking of rails, what's the over/under on how many wholesome creed fearing future AU housewives has KD done said rails off of?
Hopefully none or he's hanging out with flat chested women. If she has any decent amount of curvature to her and you want to do blow off her arse or titties then it's really gotta be in more of a small pile than a line or it'll fall off.
Posted on 3/24/17 at 7:01 am to BowlJackson
This thread is great and transitions nicely..
Starts off that Kyle Davis tweets but our new alter cant post a link
Davis seems a little PO'ed at something
Then, He just mad at a stupid Auburn fan
Then, he him mama is sick so we OK
Then, frick it. He gone
Then, he be mad cause D. Craig cant teach him shite
But in all reality, he is in the dog house cause he doing a little blow
Then it be like, frick it, we dont need him anyway
(End of first page)
Then Lanier couldnt resist, Kyle Davis is our best ball catcher and we need him
Then Chex Mix
Then typical golfntiger32 typical melt
Then somehow, Ever32(obvious alter) pissed at Kyle for going snow skying.... Didnt know da brothers did the skiing but whatever.
But in all reality again, ever meant kyle be on the sugar
Then everybody likes some booger sugar so its cool
Then bowl - Jang - bowl - Jang - bowl - Jang etc
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Asian kid has some dumb friends
Something about tequila to tease lanier
then bowl - jang - bowl - jang - bowl - jang and so on
Then cocaine = alchohol
Bowl can do more cocaine than you
Cocaine = 5 hour energy
metafour gots himself a problem
I will never use hairspray again
I have to check out a Rogan podcast
Obvious alter now says KD slaying some Tiger housewives
Lastly, bowl makes a agreeable statement that frick a bunch of flat chested no arse women
To be continued
SJ just because
Starts off that Kyle Davis tweets but our new alter cant post a link
Davis seems a little PO'ed at something
Then, He just mad at a stupid Auburn fan
Then, he him mama is sick so we OK
Then, frick it. He gone
Then, he be mad cause D. Craig cant teach him shite
But in all reality, he is in the dog house cause he doing a little blow
Then it be like, frick it, we dont need him anyway
(End of first page)
Then Lanier couldnt resist, Kyle Davis is our best ball catcher and we need him
Then Chex Mix
Then typical golfntiger32 typical melt
Then somehow, Ever32(obvious alter) pissed at Kyle for going snow skying.... Didnt know da brothers did the skiing but whatever.
But in all reality again, ever meant kyle be on the sugar
Then everybody likes some booger sugar so its cool
Then bowl - Jang - bowl - Jang - bowl - Jang etc
Page 3
Asian kid has some dumb friends
Something about tequila to tease lanier
then bowl - jang - bowl - jang - bowl - jang and so on
Then cocaine = alchohol
Bowl can do more cocaine than you
Cocaine = 5 hour energy
metafour gots himself a problem
I will never use hairspray again
I have to check out a Rogan podcast
Obvious alter now says KD slaying some Tiger housewives
Lastly, bowl makes a agreeable statement that frick a bunch of flat chested no arse women
To be continued
SJ just because
Posted on 3/24/17 at 7:36 am to LanierSpots
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Then typical golfntiger32 typical melt
The preemptive melt is the best melt, just get it over with and move on to acceptance stage. So now this is a SJ thread?
This post was edited on 3/24/17 at 9:47 am
Posted on 3/24/17 at 7:37 am to metafour
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People who "ruin their lives" so to speak almost always had serious pitfalls BEFORE doing drugs; that means that the drugs simply become a gateway for trying to relieve those other problems (which is impossible) which THEN leads to the fall. Like I said, look at the research. People throw crap around like "if you do heroin once you'll become an addict", hospital grade morphine is likely just as strong, if you break your arm and they give you morphine, do you leave with an opiate addiction? Of course not. People do prescription opiates daily for like a month straight and come off like nothing happened (yes, some become addicted, but the vast majority are perfectly fine).
I took morphine when I was 12 after I had my appendix taken out and I have sworn off painkillers since. The 2 hours felt great until I came down, and when I came down, I came down hard. It's not worth it. Trenton Thompson is supposedly struggling with painkillers after his shoulder surgery.
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People who "ruin their lives" so to speak almost always had serious pitfalls BEFORE doing drugs;
Who hasn't had pitfalls? But how can you even prove this? Maybe some people are just more genetically susceptible to addiction? I don't think it's a personality or troubled past issue. Quite frankly, the drug is way too dangerous to be depending on your ability to not getting addicted though. I know too many "I only smoke when I drink" people that eventually become full time chimneys. I know you think you know your limit, but your limit can change and/ or your body get worn out which could make the drug even more potent on you.
What's wrong with just doing marijuana?
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Pretty much every time I've done it has been in combination with alcohol. Yes, this actually changes the chemical composition. It makes getting drunk really difficult. I've had nights where I've been legitimately drunk, gone to an after-party wherein blow was involved, and left pretty much sober LOL.
Had a roommate that did cocaine and he could drink over 100 beers in one weekend. His frequent out of control partying combined with the substances that he was bringing into our shared cottage were two reasons I had to leave. I ended up rooming with an English major graduate teacher and he would close his doors around 9 every night and do weed and didn't bother anybody.
This post was edited on 3/24/17 at 7:46 am
Posted on 3/24/17 at 8:03 am to LanierSpots
Beautiful summary Lanier. You're starting to redeem yourself lately 
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Bowl can do more cocaine than you
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