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re: FALL CAMP: OVER. GAME WEEK.

Posted on 8/6/21 at 3:06 pm to
Posted by jt33
Member since Aug 2017
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Posted on 8/6/21 at 3:06 pm to
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Hearing a key member of AU’s D line may not be returning. Former starter. Details should be out soon. Not Injury related. Tough blow if it holds true.
From Dukes on Twitter.. I'm thinking this might be Truesdell

Edit- He deleted the post, but I read somewhere else that Truesdell wasn't at practice today and it wasn't an injury.
This post was edited on 8/6/21 at 3:08 pm
Posted by Scoper
i love hugh freeze
Member since Mar 2021
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Posted on 8/6/21 at 3:11 pm to
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Edit- He deleted the post, but I read somewhere else that Truesdell wasn't at practice today and it wasn't an injury.






It's truesdell
Posted by RockyMtnTigerWDE
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Posted on 8/6/21 at 3:12 pm to
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It's truesdell


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Scoper


I'm thinking you need to be called scoop

Posted by Scoper
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Member since Mar 2021
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Posted on 8/6/21 at 3:14 pm to
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I'm thinking you need to be called scoop



Nah I just saw hoke post it
This post was edited on 8/6/21 at 3:30 pm
Posted by GoCrazyAuburn
Member since Feb 2010
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Posted on 8/6/21 at 3:22 pm to
That would really suck.
Posted by jangalang
Member since Dec 2014
45436 posts
Posted on 8/6/21 at 3:23 pm to
That’s concerning
Posted by jt33
Member since Aug 2017
4732 posts
Posted on 8/6/21 at 3:23 pm to
I can predict our downfall this season now.. not able to stop the run up the middle.
Posted by GoCrazyAuburn
Member since Feb 2010
37533 posts
Posted on 8/6/21 at 3:26 pm to
Yep. Very strange at this point. He was made for this defensive scheme. Unless he is just quitting football, seems like a very poor decision.
Posted by alpinetiger
Salt Lake City
Member since Apr 2017
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Posted on 8/6/21 at 3:34 pm to
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That’s concerning
The 3-4 don't work without a double-team of the NG. Who's next? Hunter from Mobile?
Posted by GoCrazyAuburn
Member since Feb 2010
37533 posts
Posted on 8/6/21 at 3:48 pm to
I would think Burks or Fair.
Posted by alpinetiger
Salt Lake City
Member since Apr 2017
5864 posts
Posted on 8/6/21 at 4:11 pm to
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I would think Burks or Fair.
This is our third option for NG. Its harder to stop the run in the 3-4. That's just part of the scheme. If we don't have an effective plugger in the middle we are going to lose some games, regardless of how the rest of the D plays and how Bo and Tank play. The book on Fair is that he can string a series of 3 plays together but gets gassed because he's never been in shape. No idea on Burks.
Posted by CorchJay
Member since Nov 2018
19890 posts
Posted on 8/6/21 at 4:13 pm to
Butler and Burks both have to step up big time. Not sure what to think on the Truesdell info but will wait until more information comes out.
Posted by metafour
Member since Feb 2007
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Posted on 8/6/21 at 4:26 pm to
This will NOT be a full-time 3-4 alignment. Mason wasn't even running a strict 3-4 front at Vanderbilt last season. No idea why everyone assumes we're a "3-4 defense" now.

And also, I told you guys when Fair committed that he'd end up playing over Truesdell LMAO. Truesdell was average as shite last year and wasn't even getting any talk when Jeremiah Wright was healthy.

Anyway, this puts more pressure on getting Tony Fair in shape and ready. But he's more talented than Truesdell anyway.
Posted by blzr
Saratoga
Member since Mar 2011
30516 posts
Posted on 8/6/21 at 4:31 pm to
D line recruiting was very sub par the past few years
Posted by CorchJay
Member since Nov 2018
19890 posts
Posted on 8/6/21 at 4:59 pm to
What are you talking about?????

2021 Class
Lee Hunter 4 star .9633
Dylan Brooks 4 star .9659
Marquis Robinson 4 star .8958
Tobechi Okoli 3 star .8756
Ian Mathews 3 star .8668

2020 class
Zykeivous Walker 4 star .9649
Jay Hardy 4 star .9549
JJ Pegues 4 star .9162
Dre Butler 4 star .9045
Daniel Foster-Allen 3 star .8763
Marquis Burks 3 star .8743

2019 Class
Charles Moore 4 star .9681
Jaren Handy 4 star .9560
Derick Hall 4 star .9378
Colby Wooden 4 star .8937

2018 Class
Coynis Miller 4 star .9475
Daquan Newkirk 4 star .8959
Caleb Johnson 3 star .8738

13 4star and 5 3star players over the last 4 cycles. RG was by far the best recruiter on the former squad. Talent, execution, draft however you want to measure it.
This post was edited on 8/6/21 at 5:04 pm
Posted by alpinetiger
Salt Lake City
Member since Apr 2017
5864 posts
Posted on 8/6/21 at 5:00 pm to
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This will NOT be a full-time 3-4 alignment. Mason wasn't even running a strict 3-4 front at Vanderbilt last season. No idea why everyone assumes we're a "3-4 defense" now.

And also, I told you guys when Fair committed that he'd end up playing over Truesdell LMAO. Truesdell was average as shite last year and wasn't even getting any talk when Jeremiah Wright was healthy.

Anyway, this puts more pressure on getting Tony Fair in shape and ready. But he's more talented than Truesdell anyway.
Mason played an "Okie" front alot of the time, which is still a 3-4 but you bring your two OLBs to the line of scrimmage. It looks like the 3-4/5-2 that Wayne Hall used to run, and you still have a NG that has to occupy two blockers to be effective. Otherwise you are even or outnumbered on defense in the box. Its just math. The two-gap requires a guy to occupy two defenders in the middle or it doesn't work.

(edit) Regardless of the injuries or whatever that have happened I thought AU would struggle early in the season, because the 2-gap responsibilities are so different than what we've been running. Aranda struggled at LSU early as well. It puts much more cerebral responsibility on your DL and some players just don't adjust to it. I really hope Fair gets his fat-arse in just average shape and can play 20 effective snaps a game.
This post was edited on 8/6/21 at 5:14 pm
Posted by jangalang
Member since Dec 2014
45436 posts
Posted on 8/6/21 at 5:04 pm to
I’m glad a few of those still remain. And Pegues was never recruited to play defense.
Posted by blzr
Saratoga
Member since Mar 2011
30516 posts
Posted on 8/6/21 at 5:06 pm to
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2020 class
Zykeivous Walker 4 star .9649
Jay Hardy 4 star .9549
JJ Pegues 4 star .9162
Dre Butler 4 star .9045
Daniel Foster-Allen 3 star .8763
Marquis Burks 3 star .8743

2019 Class
Charles Moore 4 star .9681
Jaren Handy 4 star .9560
Derick Hall 4 star .9378
Colby Wooden 4 star .8937

2018 Class
Coynis Miller 4 star .9475
Daquan Newkirk 4 star .8959
Caleb Johnson 3 star .8738


How many of these guys are still on the team? And one was recruited as a TE
Posted by CorchJay
Member since Nov 2018
19890 posts
Posted on 8/6/21 at 5:10 pm to
Alpine I agree. I assume we will play multiple fronts. Base 3-4, Okie, Bear, and Base 4-3. I think that will be the key. However I do think Base 3-4 will be our main defensively alignment especially early to get the run fits figured out. After that it will grow depending on the opponent. As with most season DL and OL will determine if we are middle of the pack or up competing for a shot.
Posted by CorchJay
Member since Nov 2018
19890 posts
Posted on 8/6/21 at 5:16 pm to
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How many of these guys are still on the team? And one was recruited as a TE


13 still on the team.

2021 Class
Lee Hunter 4 star .9633
Dylan Brooks 4 star .9659
Marquis Robinson 4 star .8958
Tobechi Okoli 3 star .8756
Ian Mathews 3 star .8668

2020 class
Zykeivous Walker 4 star .9649
JJ Pegues 4 star .9162
Dre Butler 4 star .9045
Daniel Foster-Allen 3 star .8763
Marquis Burks 3 star .8743

2019 Class
Derick Hall 4 star .9378
Colby Wooden 4 star .8937

2018 Class
Caleb Johnson 3 star .8738

Addin the transfers now...
Harris
Fair
Leota

There are plenty of bodies and plenty of talent. Just have to get it coached to proper technique and assignments. That would be the same for any new staff or coordinator

Pegues was recruited as an athlete. Everyone but gimmick Gus knew this kid was destined to be on the DL.

This post was edited on 8/6/21 at 5:20 pm
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