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re: Derek Mason

Posted on 9/2/22 at 8:27 am to
Posted by jangalang
Member since Dec 2014
50737 posts
Posted on 9/2/22 at 8:27 am to
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We ran "Bend, don Break" and we broke......a lot!

That’s what bend and break generally do.

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In game coaching and adjustments were just horrible.

Pure revisionist history. The second halves were usually better than the first with the lone exception of State.
Posted by alpinetiger
Salt Lake City
Member since Apr 2017
5864 posts
Posted on 9/2/22 at 8:30 am to
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Ever?
P.J. Underwood under Barfield was up there on the terrible scale. I was always told he used profanity on the level of Rick Trickett, so I guess he had that going for him.

I think both Mason and Ellis Johnson suffer from staying with things that don't work for far too long. Mason with his 3-pressure and zone, and Ellis Johnson playing elite players normally and hoping it doesn't burn you.
Posted by jangalang
Member since Dec 2014
50737 posts
Posted on 9/2/22 at 8:33 am to
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Because it’s both of their first 2 seasons. Not sure what is so hard to follow there

Well it’s incredibly inaccurate to call Nix a mid to high 50s passer when he wasn’t even in that range, ya dumb frick. Most people would use the most recent season’s data to judge year by year progression.
Posted by wareaglepete
Union of Soviet Auburn Republics
Member since Dec 2012
17663 posts
Posted on 9/2/22 at 8:50 am to
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Ellis Johnson playing elite players normally and hoping it doesn't burn you.


Remember the 2014 Iron Bowl when he left Amari Cooper in single coverage all night? What a knucklehead.
Posted by FearlessFreep
Baja Alabama
Member since Nov 2009
19586 posts
Posted on 9/2/22 at 9:24 am to
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6-2 and 0-5
actually it was 5-4 and 1-3

Bo
W: Akron, AAMU, LSU, Arky, Ole Kiff
L: PSU, UGa, TAMU, MSU

TJ
W: Ga State
L: SC, Bama, Houston
Posted by lowspark12
nashville, tn
Member since Aug 2009
22526 posts
Posted on 9/2/22 at 9:51 am to
Mason isn’t good… how he left was a mess… but him being gone is an overall plus.
Posted by jvilletiger25
jacksonville, fl
Member since Jan 2014
20513 posts
Posted on 9/2/22 at 10:04 am to
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Well it’s incredibly inaccurate to call Nix a mid to high 50s passer when he wasn’t even in that range


He was for his first 2 seasons. Just like Finley…

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Most people would use the most recent season’s data to judge year by year progression.


Most people use like examples. So we’ll revisit after this season and compare 3 years to 3. Once again, I think they’re both mediocre and bet Ashford takes the reins eventually.

You get super angry lately bro. Hope everything is ok.

P.S. Mason sucks and Nix sucks and is a quitter
Posted by AUCE05
Member since Dec 2009
44990 posts
Posted on 9/2/22 at 10:06 am to
Bo's last major college football game will be tomorrow. Dude falls up.
Posted by jangalang
Member since Dec 2014
50737 posts
Posted on 9/2/22 at 10:30 am to
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He was for his first 2 seasons. Just like Finley…

And then that changed. Whether Finley has a better season or not doesnt change Nix’s season last year.

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Most people use like examples.

The most obvious “like example” is their QB play last year under the same coaching staff and with the same talent.

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Once again, I think they’re both mediocre and bet Ashford takes the reins eventually.

Ashford is a wildcard but if he is sitting third string on two different teams I’m not sure why you think he will be anything more than mediocre.

PS. Nix made Ashford quit.
Posted by jangalang
Member since Dec 2014
50737 posts
Posted on 9/2/22 at 10:32 am to
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Bo's last major college football game will be tomorrow. Dude falls up.

It is sad that you are triggered this much by the Nix family.
Posted by jangalang
Member since Dec 2014
50737 posts
Posted on 9/2/22 at 10:33 am to
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Mason isn’t good…

lol okay. His career says otherwise.

As for last year:

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• The Mason-led Tigers improved by 14.5% in third down defense from 2020 to move up 84 places in the final FBS rankings. Auburn also improved from the previous season in tackles for loss by 1.4 per game (up 65 places), rushing defense by 35 yards per game (up 33 places), first downs allowed by three per game (up 32 places), fourth down defense by 10% (up 21 places), sacks by .33 per game (up 13 places), scoring defense by three points per game (up 11 places) and total defense by 32 yards per game (up two places).

• The 2021 Auburn defense finished among the FBS leaders in blocked kicks (No. 10), fourth down defense (No. 13), defensive touchdowns (No. 13), tackles for loss (No. 17), scoring defense (No. 27) and rushing defense (No. 29), all while playing with an offense that finished 91st in the FBS in time of possession.

Auburn’s 2021 defense did not allow a fourth quarter score in five of its six wins, held consecutive SEC opponents (Ole Miss and Texas A&M) without a passing touchdown for the first time since 2006, surrendered the fewest points in a two-game span (10 in the first two games) since 2007 and held six opponents under 100 yards rushing for the first time since 2010.


To think someone said he couldn’t make in game adjustments.
This post was edited on 9/2/22 at 10:44 am
Posted by AUCE05
Member since Dec 2009
44990 posts
Posted on 9/2/22 at 10:34 am to
Not really triggered, just really don't like nepotism.
Posted by jangalang
Member since Dec 2014
50737 posts
Posted on 9/2/22 at 10:36 am to
Once time you blasted him for ruining the name on your degree.

Next you said he would be 4th string at Auburn this year.

You’re triggered, buddy.

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nepotism.

That must be the reason why he beat out Finley and the talented QBs in Oregon.
This post was edited on 9/2/22 at 10:47 am
Posted by jvilletiger25
jacksonville, fl
Member since Jan 2014
20513 posts
Posted on 9/2/22 at 10:41 am to
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Ashford is a wildcard but if he is sitting third string on two different teams I’m not sure why you think he will be anything more than mediocre.


Well, Ashford isn’t sitting at 3rd string so….

Posted by jangalang
Member since Dec 2014
50737 posts
Posted on 9/2/22 at 10:45 am to
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Well, Ashford isn’t sitting at 3rd string so….

He will be there.
Posted by alpinetiger
Salt Lake City
Member since Apr 2017
5864 posts
Posted on 9/2/22 at 10:58 am to
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• The Mason-led Tigers improved by 14.5% in third down defense from 2020 to move up 84 places in the final FBS rankings. Auburn also improved from the previous season in tackles for loss by 1.4 per game (up 65 places), rushing defense by 35 yards per game (up 33 places), first downs allowed by three per game (up 32 places), fourth down defense by 10% (up 21 places), sacks by .33 per game (up 13 places), scoring defense by three points per game (up 11 places) and total defense by 32 yards per game (up two places).

• The 2021 Auburn defense finished among the FBS leaders in blocked kicks (No. 10), fourth down defense (No. 13), defensive touchdowns (No. 13), tackles for loss (No. 17), scoring defense (No. 27) and rushing defense (No. 29), all while playing with an offense that finished 91st in the FBS in time of possession.

• Auburn’s 2021 defense did not allow a fourth quarter score in five of its six wins, held consecutive SEC opponents (Ole Miss and Texas A&M) without a passing touchdown for the first time since 2006, surrendered the fewest points in a two-game span (10 in the first two games) since 2007 and held six opponents under 100 yards rushing for the first time since 2010.
Taking truncated statistics and using them out of context is disingenuous.

Nix had itty-bitty testicles, played too much backyard football, and had a penchant for yelling at, and pissing off his teammates. Addition by subtraction.
Posted by jangalang
Member since Dec 2014
50737 posts
Posted on 9/2/22 at 11:03 am to
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Taking truncated statistics and using them out of context is disingenuous.

Stop using words if you don’t know what they mean.

Auburn defense runs a bend don’t break defense. A current player said they will do that this year as well and not change philosophy nor playcalling.. Within that context then those numbers do apply.


Posted by marshallcotiger
Member since Dec 2009
8346 posts
Posted on 9/2/22 at 11:09 am to
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He was borderline decent to average but ranking in top 30 in many defensive categories and held up his end in recruiting.


I agree with this. He wasn't the worst DC we have had and he had some nice games. SC, MSU and PSU were pretty frustrating to watch though. I wasn't impressed with our coaching staff as a whole so I'd have been fine with just about any of them leaving.
Posted by Poker Dough
Atlanta
Member since Jan 2018
9760 posts
Posted on 9/2/22 at 11:09 am to
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Nix made Ashford quit


An all too (conveniently) overlooked fact.

Real possibility here:

Nix starts for Oregon, beats UGA

Ashoford rides the pine in an all too close game vs Mercer.

The reality is Nix had to transfer across the country to have a chance of feeling what it's like to beat UGA and to play meaningful football past mid October
This post was edited on 9/2/22 at 11:16 am
Posted by wareaglepete
Union of Soviet Auburn Republics
Member since Dec 2012
17663 posts
Posted on 9/2/22 at 11:14 am to
I just think it’s really impressive that even a thread about a DC that is no longer here will eventually turn into a Pro Nix vs Anti Nix pissing match.
It’s the Forever Nix War.
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