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Craig Smith, new Utah basketball coach

Posted on 7/21/21 at 3:57 pm
Posted by alpinetiger
Salt Lake City
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Posted on 7/21/21 at 3:57 pm
I'm excited to watch what unfolds for Utah. We have a good basketball history. Kristowiak was a miserable a-hole and his players hated him, so I was glad to see his departure. Smith apparently knows Pearl, and runs alot of the Dr. Tom Davis motion offense, and recruits a similar and versitle style of player. Huntsman is walking distance from my house too.
Posted by Aubie Spr96
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Member since Dec 2009
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Posted on 7/21/21 at 4:33 pm to
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Huntsman is walking distance from my house too.


B-A-L-L-E-R


Salt Lake was a little weirder than it has been in the past. We never got to go to a basketball game or football game. I'd love to come back and go to a home game (football).


ETA: Bison roundup is Oct 23rd and there isn't an overlapping home game. I guess that's every other year that the dates matchup?
This post was edited on 7/21/21 at 4:40 pm
Posted by alpinetiger
Salt Lake City
Member since Apr 2017
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Posted on 7/21/21 at 4:53 pm to
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B-A-L-L-E-R


Salt Lake was a little weirder than it has been in the past. We never got to go to a basketball game or football game. I'd love to come back and go to a home game (football).

Nah, just timing. I bought my house in Sugarhouse in 2004 and paid $210k. Now its seven figures on Zillow. SLC was as stop over city with a good airport for most of its existience. Now people are moving here and realizing how great it is, and I hate it. You know this, because you have a son or daughter here.

I think the weirdness you felt will pass, and I hope you'll tell everyone that Salt Lake City sucks. Its terrible.
Posted by Aubie Spr96
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Posted on 7/22/21 at 7:41 am to
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I think the weirdness you felt will pass




Across the street from Fisher Brewery. They had a soul food truck there that night. Nice lady from Louisiana and her teen aged daughter (black). The teenager raised hell about the lack of diversity and the strong desire to get out of SLC. I found this funny as it was across the street from this mural.

Coulda just been the trip, but SLC seemed to have gotten WAY more woke over the last year or so. Still love it there. Food is great.

Posted by AuSteeler
montgomery. AL
Member since Jan 2015
2989 posts
Posted on 7/22/21 at 9:53 am to
My mother was from SLC, I still have family that lives in Murray, and loved going there when i was young and boating in the Great Salt Lake. My cousin has a law practice there and i notice a lot of Utahians head to Idaho for some reason.

So you are a transplant Auburn fan living in SLC?
Posted by FearlessFreep
Baja Alabama
Member since Nov 2009
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Posted on 7/22/21 at 10:07 am to
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Coulda just been the trip, but SLC seemed to have gotten WAY more woke over the last year or so.
Got a family member living out there now.

She is probably what you would consider left-leaning but not 'woke'. She had to cut off a relationship with her then-best friend (who was Irish, not even from the US much less UT) because the friend insisted my family member wasn't 'anti-racist' enough.
Posted by Aubie Spr96
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Posted on 7/22/21 at 10:31 am to
Interesting note: SLC is the most tattooed city in the US. This is no joke. Tattoo parlors are everywhere and you have to try and find people without tattoos. With that said, it's also hard to find fat people. They spend a lot of time outside there hiking, biking, walking, running, etc, etc.
Posted by alpinetiger
Salt Lake City
Member since Apr 2017
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Posted on 7/22/21 at 1:19 pm to
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So you are a transplant Auburn fan living in SLC?
Yep. I grew up in Auburn and attended AHS and AU. I was assigned to an IT project at my first job out of Auburn and just never left SLC. I get back to Auburn frequently too because I still have family/siblings in Auburn/Opelika/Birmingham.
Posted by alpinetiger
Salt Lake City
Member since Apr 2017
5864 posts
Posted on 7/22/21 at 1:54 pm to
Those murals are garbage. I sometimes think that there's a faction in SLC that tries to overcompensate for its natural conservatism and family focus. SLC is extremely young too when compared to other cities (Mormons have lots of kids) and the young tend to latch on to these types of hysterical causes.

Its funny to have conversations with left-leaning people in the southwest and west about diversity in general because its so homogeneous here, and really everywhere out west. You get around to asking someone where they're from and talking about the demographic make-up of their town, and that number is always low single digits.Ultimately I'm asked where I'm from, and after I'm prejudged after saying Alabama, I tell them I was raised in a town where there's 40% black people, not 3%. The reactions can be funny.

I've forgotten where I read it but there was some writer not from the deep south, that made an observation about the deep south and the western US in general. I think it was a dude from Seattle who wrote it. He basically said that people outside the deep south embrace diversity/equality/racism etc.. theoretically, but are never really faced with it in reality because of the homogeneity. And when they are it often times is flatly rejected. In the south its just reality because the demographics are much more balanced, and until you live outside the deep south its not something that you even realize.
Posted by Aubie Spr96
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Posted on 7/22/21 at 2:22 pm to
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I've forgotten where I read it but there was some writer not from the deep south, that made an observation about the deep south and the western US in general. I think it was a dude from Seattle who wrote it. He basically said that people outside the deep south embrace diversity/equality/racism etc.. theoretically, but are never really faced with it in reality because of the homogeneity. And when they are it often times is flatly rejected. In the south its just reality because the demographics are much more balanced, and until you live outside the deep south its not something that you even realize.


Being from Birmingham, AL and spending time in SLC, you notice real quick that there is something 'missing'.

I do love it out there. Not sure that SLC would be my landing spot anymore. I'd like to try something a little smaller and conservative like Birmingham. It's expensive as frick to live out there.

PS: You need to find me someone that fishes the Jordan River that runs through town. There has to be someone that does it.
Posted by JamalSanders
On a boat
Member since Jul 2015
12135 posts
Posted on 7/22/21 at 3:46 pm to
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He basically said that people outside the deep south embrace diversity/equality/racism etc.. theoretically, but are never really faced with it in reality because of the homogeneity. And when they are it often times is flatly rejected. In the south its just reality because the demographics are much more balanced, and until you live outside the deep south its not something that you even realize.


It's crazy how white Kentucky is after you live in the deep south your whole life.
Posted by alpinetiger
Salt Lake City
Member since Apr 2017
5864 posts
Posted on 7/22/21 at 4:41 pm to
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Being from Birmingham, AL and spending time in SLC, you notice real quick that there is something 'missing'.

I do love it out there. Not sure that SLC would be my landing spot anymore. I'd like to try something a little smaller and conservative like Birmingham. It's expensive as frick to live out there.

PS: You need to find me someone that fishes the Jordan River that runs through town. There has to be someone that does it.
Haha! Yeah its always a bit of a shock landing at Hartsfield after being in Utah for any length of time. You'd probably like/prefer a place like Morgan County or maybe up Emigration Canyon instead of being so centralized in SLC. Both are close enough to Park City/SLC to be enjoyed but are generally rural. SLC is better than most cities its size as far as politics but those issues still exist. And that's where the out-of-town interlopers flock as well. I have 18 acres in Morgan County on a creek and even have house plans but I haven't pulled the trigger. Partially because I haven't paid a mortgage since 2015, and I'm a world-class miser. My plan is breaking ground after the Biden economic/housing crash.

If I didn't pursue this life path in Utah or the west I'd do the same down south. I think the people and the cultures generally are very similar. Over time I've just found that I enjoy the weather and seasons here, and the visual openess of the landscape. Plus all the world-class sights and activities. You can still buy 25 acres of beautiful land in Utah/Idaho/Montana etc.. for the price of a new car, just like you could in Alabama.

On fishing the Jordan River I've done it 50 times at least with spinning outfits and the chartruse/orange eggs that are so popular for trout out here. Its fun but there are too many carp and catfish. Its not even a thing because a lot of people fish it. Here: Jordan River Monsters
Posted by alpinetiger
Salt Lake City
Member since Apr 2017
5864 posts
Posted on 7/22/21 at 6:28 pm to
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My mother was from SLC, I still have family that lives in Murray, and loved going there when i was young and boating in the Great Salt Lake. My cousin has a law practice there and i notice a lot of Utahians head to Idaho for some reason.

So you are a transplant Auburn fan living in SLC?
I play a golf course in Murray quite a bit. Murray Parkway. Its easy for a single to just walk-on and walk, and if Renee is checking you in, you may not have to pay. Doing anything in the Great Salt Lake is weird, because you are a cork with the salinity. It's hard to describe to someone who hasn't experienced it.
Posted by Aubie Spr96
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Member since Dec 2009
41031 posts
Posted on 7/22/21 at 10:31 pm to
I want to kill the guy that made this video. Are there seriously no LM or SM bass in that river? I used to be friends with the Salt Lake City Bassmasters on FB. Guess I need to hit them up.
Posted by awestruck
Member since Jan 2015
10922 posts
Posted on 7/23/21 at 2:11 am to
While blessed it's not for it's overwhelming variety of species



... their ecosystem simply hasn't been around near as along as ours. As the raw rugged beauty of it's landscape will attest.
Posted by Aubie Spr96
lolwut?
Member since Dec 2009
41031 posts
Posted on 7/23/21 at 8:22 am to
Yeah. I fish the Cahaba. A lot.
Posted by awestruck
Member since Jan 2015
10922 posts
Posted on 7/23/21 at 8:55 am to
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fish the Cahaba
metoo

After taking a severance I did educational river trips for the Cahaba River Society for a while. We'd seine for fish and macroinvertebrates as a part of the day. Several months for basically gas money but it wasn't about getting paid. We introduced a lot of people to the wonders of being outdoors, what they were putting into their bodies, and how a healthy ecosystem works.
This post was edited on 7/23/21 at 8:58 am
Posted by alpinetiger
Salt Lake City
Member since Apr 2017
5864 posts
Posted on 7/23/21 at 1:42 pm to
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Are there seriously no LM or SM bass in that river?
There are supposed to be bass in there but I've never seen or hooked one, but I've only fished there in certain urban areas. I could probably count the trout I've caught on both hands hand as well. You can catch 50 carp or catfish in a few hours though if you're killing time. That dude is annoying and what he calls a sucker I'd call a carp. They are the same/similar species.

If I'm fishing I'll go to the Weber River or sometimes the Provo River. Both are nice drives and you can float them as well on a summer day. All the reservoirs are kind of meh for fishing around here. Definitely a win for Alabama as far as fishing. You also have to deal with a set of assholes - not all, but some - that treat fly fishing like its some form of art. Hey buddy, your're throwing a bait in the water to catch fish, just like the dude with the cane pole. I fly fish as well but its a bit absurd with some of the attitudes.
This post was edited on 7/23/21 at 1:45 pm
Posted by AuSteeler
montgomery. AL
Member since Jan 2015
2989 posts
Posted on 7/23/21 at 2:03 pm to
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I play a golf course in Murray quite a bit. Murray Parkway. Its easy for a single to just walk-on and walk, and if Renee is checking you in, you may not have to pay. Doing anything in the Great Salt Lake is weird, because you are a cork with the salinity. It's hard to describe to someone who hasn't experienced it.


Funny. My Uncle Bill was Murray Parks superintendent for years and helped run Murray Parkway. He also owned a grocery store called the Superette.
I remember that about the Lake. I remember I could float and not sink bc of so much salt in it. I have an old movie of water skiing in it from the 60s. Don't know how it is now.

I could live in that area for sure with the mountains and a lot of openness.
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