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Posted on 9/8/24 at 12:59 pm to attalla
The fact our QB can’t read obvious blitz and our coaches have a headset in his ear and we still hold the ball waiting for something to develop. Nobody is going to get 5sec against a P4 school.
If I have to hear about all the excuses of no players blah blah again I’m going to puke. We were way more talented than Cal yet our coaches keep making excuses about Cal’s older roster blah blah. How long does Freeze get to blame someone else?
If I have to hear about all the excuses of no players blah blah again I’m going to puke. We were way more talented than Cal yet our coaches keep making excuses about Cal’s older roster blah blah. How long does Freeze get to blame someone else?
Posted on 9/8/24 at 1:32 pm to AUX3
Yall remember when I said when Freeze was hired that he was a one side of the field read coach?
Yesterday was a perfect example.
It doesn’t matter what is going on on the other side of the field. Freeze pre snap progression is read the box, identify the safety, determine which side the numbers are. So once the field side is identified that’s where the read progression is going to happen. 7 times Thorne had no where to go with the ball. That resulted in a couple sacks and a couple scrambles and a couple times the running back never leaked out for a hot route just stayed in with no one to block.
There were 2 times where if Thorne sees the open grass and anticipates the throw it’s probably a completion but waits a hair to late and the defenders are able to close down on the coverage. These are blink of the eye timing things.
The bounce off the hands interception to Coleman… Coleman loafed on the route. When you are running a slant you gotta be burning it. Can was jogging.
The PI interception in the endzone was the correct read by Thorne. I think it was KLS had inside position and should have continued the skinny post but ran the stop route. Miscommunication.
The cam hurt interception was probably not the read for that play you had a shallow crosser that was going to be open. Not sure why he threw it up and not sure why they didn’t take Cam out. If he could lift his arm it probably isn’t an interception. Still a poor read and a poor throw.
Tipped interception is what it is.
Last drive interception Thorne threw to the right place with anticipation. Bad read by the WR on coverage.
That is not to say Thorne played well because he obviously didn’t. Just looking at it from a total scheme and what happened on the play.
Man Jarquez is lost in passing situations. Alston is far superior in those but isn’t as bullish in the run game.
K. Scott isn’t an outside corner. Should be back inside next game.
Lee had a chance to probably win the game for us and just dropped a pick 6.
Man it was brutal watching that shite again.
Yesterday was a perfect example.
It doesn’t matter what is going on on the other side of the field. Freeze pre snap progression is read the box, identify the safety, determine which side the numbers are. So once the field side is identified that’s where the read progression is going to happen. 7 times Thorne had no where to go with the ball. That resulted in a couple sacks and a couple scrambles and a couple times the running back never leaked out for a hot route just stayed in with no one to block.
There were 2 times where if Thorne sees the open grass and anticipates the throw it’s probably a completion but waits a hair to late and the defenders are able to close down on the coverage. These are blink of the eye timing things.
The bounce off the hands interception to Coleman… Coleman loafed on the route. When you are running a slant you gotta be burning it. Can was jogging.
The PI interception in the endzone was the correct read by Thorne. I think it was KLS had inside position and should have continued the skinny post but ran the stop route. Miscommunication.
The cam hurt interception was probably not the read for that play you had a shallow crosser that was going to be open. Not sure why he threw it up and not sure why they didn’t take Cam out. If he could lift his arm it probably isn’t an interception. Still a poor read and a poor throw.
Tipped interception is what it is.
Last drive interception Thorne threw to the right place with anticipation. Bad read by the WR on coverage.
That is not to say Thorne played well because he obviously didn’t. Just looking at it from a total scheme and what happened on the play.
Man Jarquez is lost in passing situations. Alston is far superior in those but isn’t as bullish in the run game.
K. Scott isn’t an outside corner. Should be back inside next game.
Lee had a chance to probably win the game for us and just dropped a pick 6.
Man it was brutal watching that shite again.
Posted on 9/8/24 at 1:41 pm to CorchJay
We do not have a stud RB or DBs. It feels like a decade since we had attacking CBs that would pounce on a pass in their area. Zero head hunting S's. We don't have a DLmen that other teams need to scheme around. Not going to keep beating the Thorne horse, but the kid cannot recognize a blitz and quickly react. He doesn't do our OL any favors. I usually don't critique play calling, but Freeze doesn't seem to adjust and give his QB confidence building throws. With the amount of blitz schemes Cal was running, screens and bubbles would have put the ball in our speed guys and let them work. He kept calling long developing pass plays. Freeze isn't a run scheme type play caller, so that 3rd quarter when he was trying to pound it I knew we were in trouble.
This post was edited on 9/8/24 at 1:43 pm
Posted on 9/8/24 at 1:42 pm to CorchJay
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Just looking at it from a total scheme and what happened on the play.
I know I sound like a broken record, but it feels like this is continuous years since Marshall left we’ve had vision problems.
Our QB’s are incapable of scanning all their routes and going through progressions. I know it’s easier from the lazy boy, but they’re consistently not seeing wide open targets.
How do you fix it? Oline blocked well enough to set up in the pocket at times for your reads..
Posted on 9/8/24 at 1:52 pm to Fearless_and_True
O line was as bad as Thorne. Way too much pressure from the edges and middle. Wrong pickups on an overload blitz a few times. OL is supposed to pick up the closest player to the ball and they went for the player that was wider which the QB accounts for.
There definitely should have been more behind the LOS passes to make the backers have to run and cover. They were able to delay blitz way too much. No one is running a route in my area no back going out might as well go hit the QB.
We actually ran a lot less RPO than I originally thought. Probably less than half the passes were RPO.
Better play calling, being more physical, and better execution is the answer. Regardless of who is in the game. For those wondering how it can be fixed.
Have I mentioned how much I don’t like not hitting in practice. Hell I remember the days where Tuesdays and Wednesdays of game weeks were like situational scrimmages. And at least a period of practice was goal line 1v1s in those days.
There definitely should have been more behind the LOS passes to make the backers have to run and cover. They were able to delay blitz way too much. No one is running a route in my area no back going out might as well go hit the QB.
We actually ran a lot less RPO than I originally thought. Probably less than half the passes were RPO.
Better play calling, being more physical, and better execution is the answer. Regardless of who is in the game. For those wondering how it can be fixed.
Have I mentioned how much I don’t like not hitting in practice. Hell I remember the days where Tuesdays and Wednesdays of game weeks were like situational scrimmages. And at least a period of practice was goal line 1v1s in those days.
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