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re: Coach Harsin’s full presser today
Posted on 8/28/21 at 10:44 am to 88TIger
Posted on 8/28/21 at 10:44 am to 88TIger
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And for those pushing people that they must get the vax...here is a new study out of Isreal (remember vax was gov mandated for everyone) Finds Fully Vaccinated People are at “Greater Risk of Hospitalization” and 13 TIMES MORE LIKELY to Catch Covid-19 Than Those Who Have Recovered and Have Natural Immunity
Dude.
Simpson's Paradox
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Posted on 8/28/21 at 11:02 am to MrAUTigers
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Peole are still trying to compare flu deaths with covid deaths. We have enough data now. The health experts were correct.
I mean, you’re trying to compare them, you’ve thrown those statistics out countless times in multiple threads to try and prove your point, when it only shows you don’t understand the two metrics. . How can you say we have enough data with a straight face? We have enough data when the very data you are quoting is admittedly inaccurate that you are trying g to compare it to?
Until we measure the flu like we do covid, anyone that claims one way or the other that one is definitively more deadly than the other is being intentionally dishonest.
Posted on 8/28/21 at 11:15 am to GoCrazyAuburn
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I mean, you’re trying to compare them, you’ve thrown those statistics out countless times in multiple threads to try and prove your point,
AGAIN......because people say........"now do the flu deaths".
I am done with you on this topic. I keep saying the same thing and you keep saying the same thing.
we are done.
Posted on 8/28/21 at 11:22 am to MrAUTigers
So why do you keep posting flu statistics that are not compatible to Covid statistics to try and make your argument?
Why do you try and use non-comparable metrics to try and make a point? Post flu statistics of people that died with it, not just from it. That is what people are asking for.
Why do you try and use non-comparable metrics to try and make a point? Post flu statistics of people that died with it, not just from it. That is what people are asking for.
This post was edited on 8/28/21 at 11:25 am
Posted on 8/28/21 at 12:29 pm to slacker130
quote:Dude...the point is they were fully vaccinated and some are in the hospital now with....wait for it...COVID...
Dude.
Simpson's Paradox
What I have been saying all along is it is up to each individual to decide if they want to vax or not. But for every point out there who say that see the vax works or doesn't work there are counterpoints...
People are skeptical because they have caught people in authority straight up lying about things on major scale and have gotten the social media giants to do their bidding for them on suppressing other studies etc and information...and the media has been caught lying their butts off also...
Posted on 8/28/21 at 12:47 pm to 88TIger
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People are skeptical because they have caught people in authority straight up lying about things on major scale and have gotten the social media giants to do their bidding for them on suppressing other studies etc and information...and the media has been caught lying their butts off also..
The data is pretty clear that being vaccinated is safer than the reverse. Not just one study, but countless studies from multiple countries.
It is amusing to me that this has became so political. It's a fricking vaccine - the shite we all took as children. Many states MANDATE vaccines for school children by law and have done so for decades.
Posted on 8/28/21 at 1:19 pm to AUstar
Let’s not be obtuse about this and act like anything that has gone on from start to now revolving around Covid has been normal at all. Nothing about it is “just” a vaccine.
Stuff becomes political any time a group is trying to force people to do things. I’m not sure how that is amusing. Floating the idea of a vaccine passport was one of the single dumbest things that has come from all of this. It did as much damage to the vaccination movement as anything.
Stuff becomes political any time a group is trying to force people to do things. I’m not sure how that is amusing. Floating the idea of a vaccine passport was one of the single dumbest things that has come from all of this. It did as much damage to the vaccination movement as anything.
Posted on 8/28/21 at 1:34 pm to 88TIger
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Dude...the point is they were fully vaccinated and some are in the hospital now with....wait for it...COVID...
Right. So the group that has the highest likelihood of a breakthrough case, is also the most vaccinated group, therefore skewing the overall vaccination stats. It’s the Simpson Paradox and also pretty disingenuous to point to and make wild claims about overall efficacy.
Posted on 8/28/21 at 1:46 pm to slacker130
quote:Lets just remove the 65+ older group from the stats and tell me how deadly this virus is since were removing groups that skew statistics.
Right. So the group that has the highest likelihood of a breakthrough case, is also the most vaccinated group, therefore skewing the overall vaccination stats.
Posted on 8/28/21 at 1:56 pm to ChexMix
Speaking of falsified statistics and skewing them
LINK
"According to the chart, “unvaccinated <14 days receipt of the first dose of a 2-dose series or 1 dose of the single-dose vaccine or if no vaccination registry data were available.”
LINK
"According to the chart, “unvaccinated <14 days receipt of the first dose of a 2-dose series or 1 dose of the single-dose vaccine or if no vaccination registry data were available.”
This post was edited on 8/28/21 at 1:57 pm
Posted on 8/28/21 at 2:08 pm to ChexMix
Sorry to interrupt your regularly scheduled programming…but I can’t wait til we’re debating play calls and referee calls in a couple of weeks.
I’m just tired of hearing about covid. And politics. And such.
I’m just tired of hearing about covid. And politics. And such.
This post was edited on 8/28/21 at 2:14 pm
Posted on 8/28/21 at 2:12 pm to McCalebbUpTheMiddle
it will never end. Covid has infected this country mentally. Forfeitures, false positives and incessant testing are the future
Posted on 8/28/21 at 2:22 pm to ChexMix
The sooner people realize that this virus acts just like every other respiratory virus, the better. Covid will always be around, and just like all the other respiratory viruses, it will infect people when their immune systems weaken during the year.
Posted on 8/28/21 at 2:27 pm to GoCrazyAuburn
quote:But thats not what the TV tells me.
The sooner people realize that this virus acts just like every other respiratory virus, the better.
Look at the hospital beds!!!! 96% unvaccinated!!! Oh wait, the CDC redefined the term unvaccinated to include those that died from Covid after the jab up to 2 frickING WEEKS. Thats right, all this talk about the unvaxxed and its the fricking recently jabbed thats skewing the stats. Funny how a little manipulation can go a long way isnt it
This post was edited on 8/28/21 at 2:30 pm
Posted on 8/28/21 at 2:36 pm to ChexMix
This thread is giving me a headache and way played out given its just a continuation of other Covid threads.. Tomorrow is game week. Will be a good time to lock this thread
Posted on 8/28/21 at 2:39 pm to ChexMix
I love the serial down voter in this thread 
I don’t even care about the numbers at this point. Bad or good, they are a reality. We aren’t just magically going to kill Covid with anything people are wanting to do. Get the vaccine, don’t get the vaccine, make your own personal choice about your health. No matter what we do though, we aren’t going to “get over” Covid. It is here for the long haul, just like all the others. Acting like we are doomed if a portion of our society doesn’t get vaccinated is blind idiocy.
I don’t even care about the numbers at this point. Bad or good, they are a reality. We aren’t just magically going to kill Covid with anything people are wanting to do. Get the vaccine, don’t get the vaccine, make your own personal choice about your health. No matter what we do though, we aren’t going to “get over” Covid. It is here for the long haul, just like all the others. Acting like we are doomed if a portion of our society doesn’t get vaccinated is blind idiocy.
Posted on 8/28/21 at 2:40 pm to slacker130
quote:please show me where I made wild claims? I am just pointing out that those that say you must take the vaccine even if you have had it, doesn't really matter if I have the shot, I still can get COVID and end up in the hospital..So I can take my chances on getting COVID again or I can take a chance at having up to a life threatening side affect with the shot...
wild claims about overall efficacy.
We have also had people on here saying this type of vax isn't new but this is the first time it has been approved for use and notice that it is emergency use and the liability for the drug companies has been removed...
Posted on 8/28/21 at 2:41 pm to jangalang
Why though? I mean just don’t read the thread. If people want to have a discussion, let them. If people were getting hostile or something towards each other, sure, but why lock a thread just because some people get annoyed with the discussion being had?
Posted on 8/28/21 at 2:49 pm to jangalang
quote:you can always find another thread jang.
This thread is giving me a headache and way played out given its just a continuation of other Covid threads.. Tomorrow is game week. Will be a good time to lock this thread
or
We can collectively as a board vote that Covid is now a political topic and should only be posted on the poli board
Posted on 8/28/21 at 2:50 pm to GoCrazyAuburn
I’m not a thread nazi. Leave it up or whatever. This isn’t a politics board though.The leeway afforded because of Harsin’s covid approach has already been plenty and well enduring. With game week I figured we could let this die.
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