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re: Can someone please give me a benefit of kicking the XP first?

Posted on 11/13/21 at 7:19 pm to
Posted by jangalang
Member since Dec 2014
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Posted on 11/13/21 at 7:19 pm to
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I did reply to that. I really hope you’re drunk

No you did not. We were down 43-34 and you said it was a slam dunk decision to go for two during the “earlier score” Why?
You also you are in favor of doing things that give us the highest chance of winning. Going for two at that point didn’t give us a higher chance of winning.
This post was edited on 11/13/21 at 7:25 pm
Posted by AA7
Birmingham, AL
Member since Nov 2009
28447 posts
Posted on 11/13/21 at 7:20 pm to
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He literally just led us to a TD lmao.

Correct but it was a 9 play drive. He clearly didn’t have the same zip.
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If Bo completed the 2 you can believe Bo would be back out there if we had the chance.

I agree with this too but because we would have only needed one more drive. When we got the ball back we didn’t have much time and needed two scores which meant we really had to eat up yards in a hurry.
Posted by ChexMix
Taste the Deliciousness
Member since Apr 2014
25494 posts
Posted on 11/13/21 at 7:21 pm to
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I agree with this argument but that’s not the argument I was making. Like I said, I feel like we are arguing different things
can you sum your argument up succinctly then? I have no clue what your arguing anymore
Posted by jangalang
Member since Dec 2014
50771 posts
Posted on 11/13/21 at 7:22 pm to
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Jesus Christ. Yes I was begging to see Finley who I adamantly was against playing even when this entire board was for it after the GA State game.

1. Nobody was more critical of Finley starting than me

2. You got the meaningless minutes anyway. That’s what happens when you prematurely force the issue that still leaves us with a useless 9 point hole.
Posted by Weagle25
THE Football State.
Member since Oct 2011
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Posted on 11/13/21 at 7:27 pm to
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No you did not. We were down 43-34 and you said it was a slam dunk decision to go for two during the “earlier score” Why?
You also you are in favor of doing things that give us the highest chance of winning. Going for two didn’t give us a higher chance of winning.

I already said all this in the OP.

If we go for two after the second score, instead of the first. We have less time on the clock to get the third score in the case that we miss our 2pt conversion. More time on the clock = higher chance of winning.

If we get the the 2 point conversion, doesn’t matter whether we did it after the first or second at all.

I never made the argument that we would then again go for 2 down 9.
This post was edited on 11/13/21 at 7:28 pm
Posted by TTsTowel
RIP Bow9den/Coastie
Member since Feb 2010
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Posted on 11/13/21 at 7:28 pm to
I was wondering the same thing. The game was over the minute we missed the 2 point conversion. We should’ve kicked the extra point to stay in the game.
Posted by jangalang
Member since Dec 2014
50771 posts
Posted on 11/13/21 at 7:29 pm to
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I agree with this too but because we would have only needed one more drive. When we got the ball back we didn’t have much time and needed two scores which meant we really had to eat up yards in a hurry.

Bro, if Bo converted the earlier 2 point try we would only need one score, and he could’ve managed that like the TD he managed before.

If Bo needed 8, Bo would still need only one TD and then the try, but still within his capabilities to do so.
Posted by AA7
Birmingham, AL
Member since Nov 2009
28447 posts
Posted on 11/13/21 at 7:34 pm to
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Bro, if Bo converted the earlier 2 point try we would only need one score, and he could’ve managed that like the TD he managed before.

Dammit hang how drunk are you?

I agree with this. What I was saying is that I think they pulled him because we were down 9 and therefore needed 2 scores, which means we needed to chunk it deep and he was clearly unable to get good velocity on the ball with his ankle.

If the rumors of a broken ankle are correct then I’m shocked Bo was able to even finish out the TD drive. Dude’s a knucklehead at times but he’s a damn warrior.
Posted by jangalang
Member since Dec 2014
50771 posts
Posted on 11/13/21 at 7:37 pm to
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If we go for two after the second score, instead of the first. We have less time on the clock to get the third score in the case that we miss our 2pt conversion. More time on the clock = higher chance of winning.

By the time we would have failed the (game tying) 2 point try with less than a minute left the game would be effectively over. It all boils down on converting at least one of those 2 point trys but their defense would’ve been more on the ropes if we rattled off two touchdowns and then it would’ve been better to attempt the 2 point conversion.
Posted by AuSteeler
montgomery. AL
Member since Jan 2015
2989 posts
Posted on 11/13/21 at 7:38 pm to
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It’s a two score game either way if you’re operating under the assumption you don’t convert the 2. One way you know it’s a two score game earlier, the other you don’t know until the clock is almost out.


Exactly. Regardless of the order U HOPE to score 2 TDs and and xpoint and 2 pt conversion u still need 15.

The only difference if u don’t at lest make 1 2 pt conv is when u realize u need the ball a third time.
Posted by jangalang
Member since Dec 2014
50771 posts
Posted on 11/13/21 at 7:42 pm to
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Dammit hang how drunk are you?

You and weagle keep saying this but only Chex and Lanier are making sense. Wtf.
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What I was saying is that I think they pulled him because we were down 9 and therefore needed 2 scores, which means we needed to chunk it deep and he was clearly unable to get good velocity on the ball with his ankle.

Maybe but I think they pulled him because we were down 9, Nix was already injured, and didn’t really have much of a chance of winning. TJ actually lowers the chances of winning.
This post was edited on 11/13/21 at 7:48 pm
Posted by jangalang
Member since Dec 2014
50771 posts
Posted on 11/13/21 at 7:47 pm to
quote:

I was wondering the same thing.

You do realize
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The game was over the minute we missed the 2 point conversion. We should’ve kicked the extra point to stay in the game.

If Weagle isn’t saying this, I sure am. Kick the extra point and keep us in the game.
Posted by AUTubaHerd
Member since Nov 2012
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Posted on 11/13/21 at 7:49 pm to
Mathematically you’re correct
Posted by Weagle25
THE Football State.
Member since Oct 2011
47472 posts
Posted on 11/13/21 at 7:52 pm to
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By the time we would have failed the (game tying) 2 point try with less than a minute left the game would be effectively over.

Correct. Which is why I’m going for 2 earlier and not wasting timeouts/time by putting my defense back on the field.

Hence giving me a better chance to win

At that point, I already know whether or not I got the two point conversion. So I can make a more educated decision on what to do for the remainder of the game.
This post was edited on 11/13/21 at 7:54 pm
Posted by AuSteeler
montgomery. AL
Member since Jan 2015
2989 posts
Posted on 11/13/21 at 8:31 pm to
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If Weagle isn’t saying this, I sure am. Kick the extra point and keep us in the game.


Great, so all your doing is feeling good a little while longer.

And then when u miss the 2nd 2 pointer your still in the same boat, just closer to the end.
Posted by jangalang
Member since Dec 2014
50771 posts
Posted on 11/13/21 at 8:37 pm to
I mean you can assume we would miss the game tying 2 point conversion, but I’m not. I already said their defense would be reeling by that point and I would like our chances then.

How did your guy Finley do today? The guy that you said had more natural QB ability than Bo?
Posted by AuSteeler
montgomery. AL
Member since Jan 2015
2989 posts
Posted on 11/13/21 at 8:48 pm to
U never forget do u? You’re worse than my wife. ??

I’m already in a bad mood so why pile on?

Posted by jangalang
Member since Dec 2014
50771 posts
Posted on 11/13/21 at 8:49 pm to
frick no I ain’t forgetting.
Posted by AuSteeler
montgomery. AL
Member since Jan 2015
2989 posts
Posted on 11/13/21 at 8:54 pm to
Well i hope you support whoever plays QB from here on out to try and get us a win.

Posted by TTsTowel
RIP Bow9den/Coastie
Member since Feb 2010
92691 posts
Posted on 11/13/21 at 9:01 pm to
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