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re: Buccees Mascot Coaching Edition (Former Jet Tracking)
Posted on 9/27/22 at 10:01 am to jangalang
Posted on 9/27/22 at 10:01 am to jangalang
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His SWAC success isn’t why we would nab him up.
Can’t say the same about Gill who only had his weak resume to point to
Booster #1: Let's hire Prime!
Booster #2: Is he a top tier coach, worthy of the millions we are going to throw at the next guy?
Booster #1: Hard to say. He's only in his second season coaching in college.
Booster #2: Well ok.....I guess he must be setting the world on fire, and crushing his opponents at a big time P5 school?
Booster #1: Ummmm....not exactly. He's coaching in the SWAC.
Booster #2: The SWAC??? Isn't that where teams like Vandy go to get a rent-a-win. and schedule a homecoming opponent? If you are suggesting him, I guess he mentored and coached under some really successful coaches, and was a really good coordinator?
Booster #1: Not exactly. His last job was high school....He just recently started coaching.
Booster #2: Holy shite! Why would you recommend a guy with no real experience, to head up one of the biggest names in all of college football?
Booster #1: His recruiting!
Booster #2: Did he signed a top 5 class, or something?
Booster #1: Not exactly, but he did sign the best high school cornerback in the country, and got the #6 WR! He also convinced his son to play for him!
Booster #2: Well shite! That's all I need to hear! Dust off Malzahn's old contract, scribbled out his name, and write in "Prime". Also before we announce this, send a case of Jergans and a case of Kleenex to Jang and Pokehim first.
Booster #1: I'm certain this money will be well spent! Just like it was with Harsin and Malzahn's extension!
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Posted on 9/27/22 at 10:02 am to Lee County Tiger
Stop what? Supporting the Deion hire?
See above post
#primetime
See above post
#primetime
This post was edited on 9/27/22 at 10:04 am
Posted on 9/27/22 at 10:09 am to jangalang
On Prime, something to think about is he will most likely want to bring his son as QB. He looks good, probably better than what we have. I’m all for it.
Posted on 9/27/22 at 10:13 am to jangalang
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Stop what? Supporting the Deion hire?
Posted on 9/27/22 at 10:23 am to jangalang
That's made up right about Deion and Auburn on the Rant.
edit to add: Its BS.
edit to add: Its BS.
This post was edited on 9/27/22 at 10:27 am
Posted on 9/27/22 at 10:32 am to AUFanInSoCal
We have 9 weeks before an announcement will even be made and I’m not sure it will be that quick probably 12 weeks. So pace yourselves.
Now a firing could come any day.
Now a firing could come any day.
Posted on 9/27/22 at 10:41 am to Lee County Tiger
Booster #1 Let’s hire Bill Clark or BOB
BOOSTER #2: Neither are worthy of millions, much less top tier coaches in the game
Booster #1: Yeah but look at what they have done: BOB once coached in the NFL before he flamed out. Once Bama ditches his boring offense we should go get him. Clark on the other hand was UAB Jesus and nearly the most feared Alabama HS football
BOOSTER #2: Well ok.....I guess they must be setting the world on fire, and crushing opponents at a big time P5 school?
Booster #1 Not exactly. Clark isn’t coaching right now but he had three 9 win seasons there and we are talking about UAB okay? Ugly arse Bitches. If he can get 9 there he will get a statue here. As for BOB Bama fans don’t even like BOB. I personally think he’s sandbagging for the Auburn job. But the NFL offense drips off of him. He’s Loeffler to a T!
Booster 2: Let me get this straight: you are selling us a born and bred high school coach that’s not even coaching now and an OC at Bama that has demonstrably shown he’d be a bad hire. Can they even recruit?
Booster 1: Can they recruit? Probably not, unless the NCAA allows us exceptions to haul in countless transfers like Clark received at Bama- lite. BOB may be able to recruit but he’s more a coach than a recruiter.
Booster 2: Holy shite! Why are you selling two coaches with mediocre success and recruiting abilities? Who is going to get up for that program when they are situated between Saban and Kirby and they’re getting eaten alive from all fronts? We have to sell tickets and get excitement back on track after the Allen Greene hire torpedoed the program.
Booster 1: Who else are we going to get? BOB is old school NFL!
Booster 2: The next board meeting next month, don’t even show up.
Booster 1: Can I still keep my courtside tickets for Bruceketball?
BOOSTER #2: Neither are worthy of millions, much less top tier coaches in the game
Booster #1: Yeah but look at what they have done: BOB once coached in the NFL before he flamed out. Once Bama ditches his boring offense we should go get him. Clark on the other hand was UAB Jesus and nearly the most feared Alabama HS football
BOOSTER #2: Well ok.....I guess they must be setting the world on fire, and crushing opponents at a big time P5 school?
Booster #1 Not exactly. Clark isn’t coaching right now but he had three 9 win seasons there and we are talking about UAB okay? Ugly arse Bitches. If he can get 9 there he will get a statue here. As for BOB Bama fans don’t even like BOB. I personally think he’s sandbagging for the Auburn job. But the NFL offense drips off of him. He’s Loeffler to a T!
Booster 2: Let me get this straight: you are selling us a born and bred high school coach that’s not even coaching now and an OC at Bama that has demonstrably shown he’d be a bad hire. Can they even recruit?
Booster 1: Can they recruit? Probably not, unless the NCAA allows us exceptions to haul in countless transfers like Clark received at Bama- lite. BOB may be able to recruit but he’s more a coach than a recruiter.
Booster 2: Holy shite! Why are you selling two coaches with mediocre success and recruiting abilities? Who is going to get up for that program when they are situated between Saban and Kirby and they’re getting eaten alive from all fronts? We have to sell tickets and get excitement back on track after the Allen Greene hire torpedoed the program.
Booster 1: Who else are we going to get? BOB is old school NFL!
Booster 2: The next board meeting next month, don’t even show up.
Booster 1: Can I still keep my courtside tickets for Bruceketball?
This post was edited on 9/27/22 at 10:51 am
Posted on 9/27/22 at 10:43 am to greygoose
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Booster #1: His recruiting!
Booster #2: Did he signed a top 5 class, or something?
Booster #1: Not exactly, but he did sign the best high school cornerback in the country, and got the #6 WR! He also convinced his son to play for him!
I actually just looked into his recruiting more in-depth than I have before, and this actually really does a dis-service to the job he's done at Jackson State.
Prior to his hiring in 2020, Jackson State's recruiting ranking was 338 for the 2019 cycle. For the record, there are roughly 250-260 football teams at the D1 Level (FBS+FCS). I'm finding varying numbers on this information. JSU's highest ranked recruit at this time was a 3 star DL back in 2013.
In 2020, JSU's class was 252.
In 2021, the first year of the Deion Effect, their class ranking jumped to 55, including signing 11 recruits that 247 ranked higher overall than that aforementioned 3 star.
In 2022, JSU dipped down to 75, but did sign the #1 overall recruit in the country, and the first 5 Star to ever sign out of HS with an FCS school.
His teams have ranked higher in recruiting rankings than South Carolina, Arizona, Purdue, Colorado, Wake, Boise, UCF, and Iowa St to name a few in 2021, and Marshall, Wake, San Jose St, South Alabama, UAB and App State in 2022.
Not a murderer's row I know, but he also has fewer scholarships he can offer each year (63 at the FCS level vs 85 at FBS), and has out-recruited teams that have been impressive in various ways over the last few years.
Posted on 9/27/22 at 10:44 am to jangalang
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jangalang
Final warning.
Posted on 9/27/22 at 10:49 am to Lee County Tiger
For what exactly? 
Posted on 9/27/22 at 10:51 am to jangalang
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For what exactly?
For continuing your dick measuring contest with greygoose.
Same applies to him.
If either of you continue to engage in this petty arse shite from this post on, a 24 hr time out will occur.
Posted on 9/27/22 at 10:55 am to Lee County Tiger
I don’t think he understands the difference between Jackson State and even a lower tier FBS school.
To have any recruiting class even worth mentioning is a monumental feat.
To have any recruiting class even worth mentioning is a monumental feat.
Posted on 9/27/22 at 10:56 am to Weagle25
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I don’t think he understands the difference between Jackson State and even a lower tier FBS school.
To have any recruiting class even worth mentioning is a monumental feat.
I honestly only really knew about the Travis Hunter situation.
But to go from 338 (which means D2 schools were out-recruiting you) to near the top 50 is fricking impressive.
I honestly didn't realize how big of a leap he had taken them.
Posted on 9/27/22 at 11:08 am to Lee County Tiger
quote:That's the gamble, I guess.
But to go from 338 (which means D2 schools were out-recruiting you) to near the top 50 is fricking impressive.
I honestly didn't realize how big of a leap he had taken them.
We have absolutely nothing to go on besides 2 recruiting cycles and essentially a season and a half coaching at a SWAC school.
How much of this is just the surface excitement of a high-profile guy in his first couple of years on the job? How long can he keep it up based just on being "Prime Time"?
And that's assuming he's bullshitting about trying to raise the profile of HBCUs and is just looking to backdoor his way into a P5 gig while people are still enamored with his two whole years of recruiting prowess.
Posted on 9/27/22 at 11:11 am to Lee County Tiger
Alright. Let’s Ride
#prime.
#prime.
Posted on 9/27/22 at 11:16 am to FearlessFreep
I can’t think of too many SWAC or FCS coaches content with calling the SWAC or FCS home longterm. Prime has already interviewed elsewhere.
Deion cannot be PrimeTime and get PrimeTime for little Jackson State. It’s just not going to happen.
Deion cannot be PrimeTime and get PrimeTime for little Jackson State. It’s just not going to happen.
Posted on 9/27/22 at 11:21 am to Lee County Tiger
quote:By that argument, he is absolutely killing the other SWAC schools that he recruits against right? His Jackson State team is a proverbial NFL team, compared to those other schools, in regards to talent. Yet, he struggled with winless TN State. The combined record of his opponents this year is 3-12.
I actually just looked into his recruiting more in-depth than I have before, and this actually really does a dis-service to the job he's done at Jackson State.
Prior to his hiring in 2020, Jackson State's recruiting ranking was 338 for the 2019 cycle. For the record, there are roughly 250-260 football teams at the D1 Level (FBS+FCS). I'm finding varying numbers on this information. JSU's highest ranked recruit at this time was a 3 star DL back in 2013.
In 2020, JSU's class was 252.
In 2021, the first year of the Deion Effect, their class ranking jumped to 55, including signing 11 recruits that 247 ranked higher overall than that aforementioned 3 star.
In 2022, JSU dipped down to 75, but did sign the #1 overall recruit in the country, and the first 5 Star to ever sign out of HS with an FCS school.
His teams have ranked higher in recruiting rankings than South Carolina, Arizona, Purdue, Colorado, Wake, Boise, UCF, and Iowa St to name a few in 2021, and Marshall, Wake, San Jose St, South Alabama, UAB and App State in 2022.
Not a murderer's row I know, but he also has fewer scholarships he can offer each year (63 at the FCS level vs 85 at FBS), and has out-recruited teams that have been impressive in various ways over the last few years.
You mentioned the "Deion Effect". Why did it drop off so dramatically after the first year? JSU is currently ranked 111th in recruiting with two 3* recruits and one 3* transfer.
In other words, what would the fans of Texas A&M think, if Jimbo's recruiting went from #1 to #20 in the span of year, then continued to drop from there? All that and the only thing to show from it, is getting spanked in the Cricket Celebration Bowl by South Caroline STATE
Posted on 9/27/22 at 11:22 am to FearlessFreep
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We have absolutely nothing to go on besides 2 recruiting cycles and essentially a season and a half coaching at a SWAC school.
How much of this is just the surface excitement of a high-profile guy in his first couple of years on the job? How long can he keep it up based just on being "Prime Time"?
The recruiting speaks for itself.
To recruit at a high level to Jackson, MS, a city which has no drinking water, and has continued problems for years now with that, is highly impressive. I think that skill will translate to a higher tier program with more opportunities than Jackson State.
The coaching is the biggest gamble, but one that can be overcome with exceptional talent.
He's a charismatic personality who appears to be able to win a room with ease. I think he can keep it up for quite a while as "Prime-Time"
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And that's assuming he's bullshitting about trying to raise the profile of HBCUs and is just looking to backdoor his way into a P5 gig while people are still enamored with his two whole years of recruiting prowess.
Honestly, him leaving for a P5 SEC gig might just continue to raise the profiles of HBCU's, showing that being successful there can be a launchpad for your career as a coach and/or a player. And I have no doubt that he would encourage wherever he's coaching to schedule HBCU's as opponents, which in turn brings in more money for those HBCU's via "prostitution games"
Posted on 9/27/22 at 11:28 am to greygoose
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By that argument, he is absolutely killing the other SWAC schools that he recruits against right? His Jackson State team is a proverbial NFL team, compared to those other schools, in regards to talent. Yet, he struggled with winless TN State. The combined record of his opponents this year is 3-12.
Went 9-0 vs SWAC opponents last year. Only regular season loss was a 5 point loss to ULM (not great), and then that bowl loss to SCSt in the HBCU Title Game.
Winless Tennessee State isn't exactly being fair to them, considering they played FCS Power Eastern Washington, then JSU, then Middle Tennessee St, who just beat the shite out of Miami. And they held TSt to 3 points. When your D is that good, you don't have to do much.
BTW, Jackson St plays at Alabama St on Oct 8th, same day as the UGA game if anyone wants to go watch it in person.
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In other words, what would the fans of Texas A&M think, if Jimbo's recruiting went from #1 to #20 in the span of year, then continued to drop from there? All that and the only thing to show from it, is getting spanked in the Cricket Celebration Bowl by South Caroline STATE
They want Jimbo gone already even with the #1 class.
This post was edited on 9/27/22 at 11:33 am
Posted on 9/27/22 at 11:30 am to Lee County Tiger
This discussion doesn’t even have to be centered around Prime.
People can offer outside the box/ seldom heard suggestions that might work perfectly for a job situated between Kirby and Saban. Our unique situation is just as obvious as Deion’s short stint of coaching. Neither has to be said over and over.
However, when offering up suggestions such as BOB, I’d like to know why it could actually work at Auburn. “Who else are you going to hire” isnt even an option.
People can offer outside the box/ seldom heard suggestions that might work perfectly for a job situated between Kirby and Saban. Our unique situation is just as obvious as Deion’s short stint of coaching. Neither has to be said over and over.
However, when offering up suggestions such as BOB, I’d like to know why it could actually work at Auburn. “Who else are you going to hire” isnt even an option.
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