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re: Buccees Mascot Coaching Edition (Former Jet Tracking)

Posted on 9/22/22 at 7:51 am to
Posted by attalla
Atlanta
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Posted on 9/22/22 at 7:51 am to
I’d go Dan Lanning. I bet he recruits like his hair is on fire, will have growing pains but could get experienced people to get over that hump

In general looks like we increased our behind the scene staffing exponentially so that would already be in place.
Posted by FearlessFreep
Baja Alabama
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Posted on 9/22/22 at 8:42 am to
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I’d go Dan Lanning.
He's at a P5 program with deep pockets, exactly 3 games in to his HC career. If we could somehow pry him away from Oregon, would it really be worth what it would cost us?

I know this thread is for throwing names out there, but some of the names I've seen thus far are ridiculous IMHO.
Posted by jangalang
Member since Dec 2014
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Posted on 9/22/22 at 8:43 am to
I’m pretty sure I’d rather have Dan Quinn over Lanning and that is saying a lot.
Posted by attalla
Atlanta
Member since Sep 2017
1454 posts
Posted on 9/22/22 at 8:55 am to
Jang, u r just being ridiculous. He’s a younger Kirby but has the Ducks playing decent and improving which is most important

Regardless it’ll be someone similar or Mich State’s coach IMO
Posted by slacker130
Your mom
Member since Jul 2010
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Posted on 9/22/22 at 9:01 am to
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Yella Wood says "you will get Hugh Freeze and like it!".


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Money talks


That's a fortune to spend to get rid of Gus & get rid of Harsin, just to hire Great Value Gus.

Posted by FearlessFreep
Baja Alabama
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19783 posts
Posted on 9/22/22 at 9:06 am to
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He’s a younger Kirby but has the Ducks playing decent and improving which is most important
They're 2-1, and got blown out in their only game vs a P5 team. Yeah, they beat BYU like a drum, but I think I'll wait a few more weeks before you can say they've improved any over 2021.

Plus, it would cost us a cool $14 million to buy out Lanning's contract before 2/1/23. Hardly worth the risk.
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Regardless it’ll be someone similar or Mich State’s coach IMO
While Tucker's buyout is onlu $2.5 million, we would have to pay him a minimum of $10 million a year for him to even consider leaving his sweetheart deal in Lansing.

Again, the idea of throwing 8 figures at largely unproven guys boggles my Barner mind.
Posted by blzr
Saratoga
Member since Mar 2011
30744 posts
Posted on 9/22/22 at 9:16 am to
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Regardless it’ll be someone similar or Mich State’s coach IMO


The guy that just got blown out by Washington? And has the worst pass defense in the country?
Posted by AuburnTigers
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Posted on 9/22/22 at 10:21 am to
I personally hope we get Hugh Freeze. He would turn our offense around and develop Qbs. And iirc, Ole Miss had one hell of a defense when he was there by their standards. Recruited well too
Posted by Weagle25
THE Football State.
Member since Oct 2011
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Posted on 9/22/22 at 10:27 am to
I don’t get why exactly people think Freeze is really that different than Malzahn?

He’s Malzahn plus some baggage IMO
This post was edited on 9/22/22 at 10:28 am
Posted by metafour
Member since Feb 2007
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Posted on 9/22/22 at 10:33 am to
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I don’t get why exactly people think Freeze is really that different than Malzahn?

He’s Malzahn plus some baggage IMO


He's pretty easily a better coach than Malzahn. He does obviously have baggage.

Big selling point on Freeze is that he's already done it in this division and he knows what it takes. As proven by Harsin, there are lots of coaches out there that are woefully oblivious or unprepared in that regard.
Posted by IAmNERD
Member since May 2017
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Posted on 9/22/22 at 10:34 am to
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He’s a younger Kirby


You realize he has only been a DC for a couple seasons at only one of his stops before getting the Oregon job. Before that, he was a position coach at a bunch of insignificant programs before Kirby got him to call his defense. With the talent he had on his defenses at UGA, I could have looked like a defensive genius from the booth.

Not to mention the cupboard wasn't exactly bare at Oregon when he got there. Say what you will about Cristobal's on-field coaching ability, but the guy can recruit with the best of them. Dan Landing is 100% an unknown commodity at this as a head coach.
Posted by Lee County Tiger
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Posted on 9/22/22 at 10:40 am to
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He would turn our offense around and develop Qbs


Again, his offense is Gus light. And his "QB Development" is highly overvalued for a coach who doesn't have a history of recruiting and developing a QB from HS to pros

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And iirc, Ole Miss had one hell of a defense when he was there by their standards.


Their defense wasn't really as great as you might think it was. It helped that they put up tons of points against lesser opponents.

In 2015, their PPG allowed against SEC Opponents was 26.25, and that's the year they went to the Sugar Bowl.

The next year they went 5-7.

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Recruited well too


That changed when the NCAA came knocking and he couldn't buy players anymore.

Plus, frick this shite:
Well, Coach Freeze told me when you’re that big and out there with faith in Christ, he’s like, ‘What do you expect? Jesus got nailed to the cross.’

Posted by Weagle25
THE Football State.
Member since Oct 2011
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Posted on 9/22/22 at 10:41 am to
Based on what?

Career at Ole Miss:
7-6
8-5
9-4
10-3
5-7

I don’t really remember him out scheming us or anything in any of our games. He had the big Bama wins (but Gus did that also). I’m genuinely curious what differentiates them
Posted by IAmNERD
Member since May 2017
24019 posts
Posted on 9/22/22 at 10:46 am to
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He's pretty easily a better coach than Malzahn

I don't see how that's possible. Both coached in the same division and Gus won it twice while Freeze never did. And we know Gus went on to win the whole league once. Their winning pct while coaching in the SEC is similar (I believe Freeze was around .675 while Gus was around .610-I didn't look it up so correct me if I'm wrong there). Gus has the better head to head record. Freeze had to blatantly cheat his balls off to recruit a top 5 class that he didn't win shite with. Gus ran a relatively clean program.

I honestly see them as about the same with Gus having the edge earlier in their careers. Something broke in Gus he just hasn't gotten it back for whatever reason.
Posted by jangalang
Member since Dec 2014
52382 posts
Posted on 9/22/22 at 10:48 am to
Hiring Freeze is asking to bring in more negative optics over an unproven coach that has yet to prove he can still recruit the way he did at Ole Miss with the rest of the world caught up to pay for play.
Posted by slacker130
Your mom
Member since Jul 2010
8964 posts
Posted on 9/22/22 at 10:48 am to
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I’m genuinely curious what differentiates them


Nothing. He is the cheaper copy of Gus w/ some strange personality issues and NCAA baggage. If we hire him, we deserve the pain that is coming.

I'd rather roll the dice on an up & comer that bucktooth Gus.
Posted by TheJones
Member since Nov 2009
34594 posts
Posted on 9/22/22 at 10:52 am to
This thread is multiple rounds of Freeze, Kiffin, and Prime being offered up and argued over
Posted by Lee County Tiger
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Member since Oct 2009
33357 posts
Posted on 9/22/22 at 10:53 am to
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This thread is multiple rounds of Freeze, Kiffin, and Prime being offered up and argued over




I've lost count of how many times I've talked about Freeze in this thread.
Posted by jangalang
Member since Dec 2014
52382 posts
Posted on 9/22/22 at 10:54 am to
All I know is there would be zero negative optics in hiring Prime.

Posted by Lee County Tiger
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Member since Oct 2009
33357 posts
Posted on 9/22/22 at 10:55 am to
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All I know is there would be zero negative optics in hiring Prime.



Don't worry, someone at AL.com will find them.
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