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Posted on 10/13/22 at 9:34 am to greygoose
100% here to eat my crow on this one. I had heard this take on a podcast and did nothing to fact check it. I still believe that Georgia Tech is a tough place to recruit at for anybody, but obviously Dieon’s so would have no problem transferring there. Just an awful take.
Posted on 10/13/22 at 9:45 am to TheJones
quote:On a side note, forget all the major P5 offers, you get offers from Ivy League schools and GT, and you choose Jackson State?
…and Ga Tech Can’t make this stuff up
US News has JS ranked 331 out of 440 universities and the town is a complete shithole.
Posted on 10/13/22 at 9:48 am to greygoose
I lived outside of Jackson at one time on the resevoir, nice out there. Downtown Jackson? Shithole. Didn't one of his sons start out at South Carolina and transfer to JSU?
Posted on 10/13/22 at 9:50 am to greygoose
Are you mad because kids can do as they want?
Posted on 10/13/22 at 9:54 am to Poker Dough
quote:At some point, you have to start questioning those decisions. Obviously, a good education wasn't at the top of the list. Go to the next level? Better chance at a place that's on tv every game, has state of the art facilities, massive staff, and infrastructure. Pretty obvious dad and son just want to be at the same place, regardless of all those other things.
I lived outside of Jackson at one time on the resevoir, nice out there. Downtown Jackson? Shithole. Didn't one of his sons start out at South Carolina and transfer to JSU?
Posted on 10/13/22 at 9:58 am to kung fu kenny
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Why are you assuming his son can’t pass calculus?
I never made that assumption, at all. I asserted that the athletes recruited by GA Tech aren't the same athletes recruited to other schools, outside of Vandy, Stanford, service academies, etc.
I have no idea about Deion's kid.
This post was edited on 10/13/22 at 9:59 am
Posted on 10/13/22 at 10:09 am to greygoose
Walter Peyton came out of Jackson State, Jerry Rice and Deacon Jones came out of Mississippi Valley State, Steve McNair Alcorn State. Eric Swann never played a down of college football and got drafted in the 1st round. All these guys were before the internet too. If a guy can play, someone will find him, and he will get a chance
Posted on 10/13/22 at 10:22 am to greygoose
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Deion's son had an offer from Cornell.....
Yea I'd expect prime's kid to do well academically - not sure why people think he wouldn't. Kid is the son of a well spoken millionaire football player who was known for his football IQ.
The Ivy leagues used to and still probably have a weird "tier" system where the coach can basically have a few ~2 kids per year well below the school's academic standards, ~8-10 at a moderate standard and then the rest of the recruiting class needs to be a much higher standard.
This post was edited on 10/13/22 at 10:23 am
Posted on 10/13/22 at 10:38 am to Poker Dough
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Walter Peyton came out of Jackson State, Jerry Rice and Deacon Jones came out of Mississippi Valley State, Steve McNair Alcorn State. Eric Swann never played a down of college football and got drafted in the 1st round. All these guys were before the internet too. If a guy can play, someone will find him, and he will get a chance
Those guys played college ball over 40 years ago. In the case of Walter Payton, he did not receive any scholarship offers from major schools. Neither did Jerry Rice. Deacon Jones? Really? He came up during Jim Crowe, no schools in the South were integrated. Trust me, if Walter Payton and Jerry Rice had gotten offers from anywhere else, they would have taken it. In the case of Rice, he wanted to go to Miss State, but they didn't offer. Mcnair had an offer to FLA, but not as a QB. That's why he went to Alcorn.
When there are 131 D-1 schools all with 85 man rosters, and only 32 NFL teams limited to 53 players, your odds of making it to the NFL is greatly diminished by going to a D-2 school. Competition is greater, coaching is generally better, and facilities and infrastructure is better. You can give examples of players who came from D-2 to the NFL, but they are fairly few, and far between, compared to D-1 schools.
Posted on 10/13/22 at 10:43 am to Poker Dough
BTW, since you mentioned Jerry Rice, his son went to Colorado and is now at USC.
Posted on 10/13/22 at 10:47 am to greygoose
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When there are 131 D-1 schools all with 85 man rosters, and only 32 NFL teams limited to 53 players, your odds of making it to the NFL is greatly diminished by going to a D-2 school. Competition is greater, coaching is generally better, and facilities and infrastructure is better. You can give examples of players who came from D-2 to the NFL, but they are fairly few, and far between, compared to D-1 schools.
Talent travels well. His son wanted to play for his dad and you’re making a big deal about that for some reason. I don’t know if you have noticed, he has gotten plenty of exposure.
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This post was edited on 10/13/22 at 10:51 am
Posted on 10/13/22 at 10:58 am to jangalang
I’d say it’s mostly likely a bad decision for most kids to go D-2 over offers from major, top P5 programs.
However, I’m not sure Deion’s kids apply to that rule in this situation
However, I’m not sure Deion’s kids apply to that rule in this situation
Posted on 10/13/22 at 11:11 am to TheJones
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However, I’m not sure Deion’s kids apply to that rule in this situation
It doesn’t apply at all. Deion’s son is more like the guy that walks on because he knows his rich dad is footing the bill. And it doesn’t end there. His son knew he would still get his exposure with Deion against lessers. Could he have gotten more exposure than what he is getting at SWAC at a P5 factory without being under his dad’s wings- probably, but would require game performance against better athletes than SWAC before he earned it. Some kids, Marvin Harrison Jr, Moose Muhammad Jr, etc are earning their stripes elsewhere and they’re doing it with or without the name. Shadeur is just attached to Deion’s hip, but again, that’s his dad, and the perks from that are still great outside of living conditions.
Posted on 10/13/22 at 11:11 am to TheJones
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I feel bad for ATLtiger now, though.
Naturally greygoose was involved.
Posted on 10/13/22 at 11:36 am to jangalang
Always is
Posted on 10/13/22 at 12:47 pm to slacker130
i think i misquoted you because someone "quoted" another poster in a reply to you, so when i followed the trail it appeared like you said it. i'm sorry - i edited my post to remove that.
also, i never said bruce was dirty like freeze. i'm a bruce fan and have always been, even when he was at UT. never liked freeze and never will. i'm not sure if you were saying that tongue in cheek though in response to what i said. again, i'm sorry about misattributing those quotes to you.
also, i never said bruce was dirty like freeze. i'm a bruce fan and have always been, even when he was at UT. never liked freeze and never will. i'm not sure if you were saying that tongue in cheek though in response to what i said. again, i'm sorry about misattributing those quotes to you.
This post was edited on 10/13/22 at 12:48 pm
Posted on 10/13/22 at 1:32 pm to kung fu kenny
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I'm not sure if you were saying that tongue in cheek
It was. All good.
Posted on 10/13/22 at 2:05 pm to TheJones
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I feel bad for ATLtiger now, though. He ate his crow and will have to suffer through several pages about how smart Shed Sanders is and where he should have originally gone and why
I’m quite used to checking this board nowadays for any possible new/good/interesting news and sifting through multiple pages of shite. That’s what happens when there isn’t much good to talk about on the field. It’s kind of fun to have actually contributed to the shite show today.
Posted on 10/13/22 at 2:46 pm to ATLtiger12
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It’s kind of fun to have actually contributed to the shite show today.
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