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Posted on 3/3/19 at 7:32 am to beatbammer
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But one GOOD thing about being franchised is that as soon as he plays a single down of the 2019 season the entire amount is guaranteed money
True.
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I wonder what the franchise figure is for the top 3-4 OLBs in 2019? I would bet its around 16M to 18M.
Now that they’re going to 4-3, they should pay him as a DE to be honest and DEs are worth more.
This post was edited on 3/3/19 at 8:41 am
Posted on 3/3/19 at 7:42 am to jangalang
See my edit upstream.
If they are going 4-3 then they need to move Ford not just for Dee’s sake but their own.
At 250 lbs, Dee playing with his hand on the ground against NFL OTs will not be a happy story, most especially against the run. It will be a waste of $15-17M by KC from the franchise tag and will destroy future contract value for Dee. For gods sake I hope they trade him. Undersized 4-3 DEs in the NFL are generally the stories of Shakesperean tragedy.
If they are going 4-3 then they need to move Ford not just for Dee’s sake but their own.
At 250 lbs, Dee playing with his hand on the ground against NFL OTs will not be a happy story, most especially against the run. It will be a waste of $15-17M by KC from the franchise tag and will destroy future contract value for Dee. For gods sake I hope they trade him. Undersized 4-3 DEs in the NFL are generally the stories of Shakesperean tragedy.
Posted on 3/3/19 at 8:03 am to beatbammer
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At 250 lbs, Dee playing with his hand on the ground against NFL OTs will not be a happy story, most especially against the run. It will be a waste of $15-17M by KC from the franchise tag and will destroy future contract value for Dee. For gods sake I hope they trade him. Undersized 4-3 DEs in the NFL are generally the stories of Shakesperean tragedy.
I totally agree and well said. The Chiefs were one Ford screwup away from being in the SB. Not sure why they felt it was necessary to hire a DC with a different scheme.
Posted on 3/3/19 at 8:30 am to beatbammer
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At 250 lbs, Dee playing with his hand on the ground against NFL OTs will not be a happy story, most especially against the run.
Yeah there are no successful DEs at his size.
Posted on 3/3/19 at 9:17 am to jangalang
quote:Agreed.
Not sure why they felt it was necessary to hire a DC with a different scheme
34 > 43
If I were KC, I would’ve hired another DC that also called a 34 defense. It’ll be harder for them to transition from a 34 to a 43, whereas adding a few more pieces and different mindset to the same defense could have made for an easier transition.
Posted on 3/3/19 at 9:20 am to CaptainBrannigan
https://www.pro-football-reference.com/years/2018/defense.htm#defense::17
Of the top 20 sack leaders in the NFL in 2018, 11 were listed as either full-time or part-time DEs.
Only one was listed as playing at or near 250 lbs (Danielle Hunter).
ONE.
And that one (Hunter)has been inconsistent from year to year. He is also well known to (as I’ve pointed out for undersized 4-3 DEs) suck defending the run.
4-3 DEs that weigh 250 lbs in *today’s* NFL are, in general, disasters waiting to happen considering that OT size in the NFL averages around 310 lb. That’s why you put guys that size (see: Khalil Mack, Von Miller, and yes Dee Ford) at 3-4 OLB where their speed becomes a nightmare for NFL OTs. Putting those guy’s hands on the ground lined up right off the shoulder of a 320 lb OT is a ridiculously stupid thing to do.
Of the top 20 sack leaders in the NFL in 2018, 11 were listed as either full-time or part-time DEs.
Only one was listed as playing at or near 250 lbs (Danielle Hunter).
ONE.
And that one (Hunter)has been inconsistent from year to year. He is also well known to (as I’ve pointed out for undersized 4-3 DEs) suck defending the run.
4-3 DEs that weigh 250 lbs in *today’s* NFL are, in general, disasters waiting to happen considering that OT size in the NFL averages around 310 lb. That’s why you put guys that size (see: Khalil Mack, Von Miller, and yes Dee Ford) at 3-4 OLB where their speed becomes a nightmare for NFL OTs. Putting those guy’s hands on the ground lined up right off the shoulder of a 320 lb OT is a ridiculously stupid thing to do.
Posted on 3/3/19 at 9:58 am to beatbammer
Ford has played in a 4-3 at Auburn, so he is familiar w how to play it, if KC is sure they want to put him there in there future plans.
I'm for my Steelers getting him, for their 3-4, but their need is at LB totally and CB. Ford at his price is so much more productive than what Steelers are getting from Dupree for 9+ mil...
I'm for my Steelers getting him, for their 3-4, but their need is at LB totally and CB. Ford at his price is so much more productive than what Steelers are getting from Dupree for 9+ mil...
Posted on 3/7/19 at 5:58 am to AuSteeler
Posted on 3/12/19 at 6:30 am to LanierSpots
CJ bout to get paid
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Tight end C.J. Uzomah has agreed to terms heading back to the #Bengals on a 3-year deal worth more $18M, source said. Nice deal for Uzomah.
Posted on 3/12/19 at 6:47 am to LanierSpots
Angelo Blackson got a nice little deal
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The AFC South champions re-signed free agent defensive end Angelo Blackson to a three-year, $12 million contract, according to league sources not authorized to speak publicly.
Posted on 3/12/19 at 8:01 pm to bawbarn
Ford traded to 49ers.
49ers are building a solid team. Happy for Ford
49ers are building a solid team. Happy for Ford
Posted on 3/12/19 at 8:30 pm to TheJones
Dee got 5 years 87.5 Mill
It worked out for him
It worked out for him
Posted on 3/12/19 at 8:30 pm to AubieG
Good stuff. He’s going to be in several championship runs
Posted on 3/12/19 at 8:31 pm to TheJones
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Ford traded to 49ers.
49ers are building a solid team. Happy for Ford
What was the "franchise tag" last week all about?
Good for Dee. Get paid when you can
Posted on 3/12/19 at 8:38 pm to AubieG
quote:FIFY
Dee got 5 years 87.5 Mill
It worked out for her
This post was edited on 3/12/19 at 8:39 pm
Posted on 3/12/19 at 8:42 pm to LanierSpots
The primary function of a tag is to secure a player’s rights. Chiefs had an option to tag him, in which they’re able to control him for one year and approximately 15 million.
Ford ultimately is worth 87.5 over 5 years ( 17.5/yr). Which means the Chiefs have significant trade value. So they trade Ford for a second round pick and save the cap space for a younger option
Ford ultimately is worth 87.5 over 5 years ( 17.5/yr). Which means the Chiefs have significant trade value. So they trade Ford for a second round pick and save the cap space for a younger option
This post was edited on 3/12/19 at 8:59 pm
Posted on 3/12/19 at 8:44 pm to TheJones
g: josinaanderson
@JosinaAnderson
Sounds like the #49ers will give Dee Ford a multi-year deal once the trade becomes official in the line of 5 years/$87.5M, per source.
I’m late. Sorry since already posted.
Definitely beats a one year, 16.5 million dollar deal
@JosinaAnderson
Sounds like the #49ers will give Dee Ford a multi-year deal once the trade becomes official in the line of 5 years/$87.5M, per source.
I’m late. Sorry since already posted.
Definitely beats a one year, 16.5 million dollar deal
This post was edited on 3/12/19 at 8:48 pm
Posted on 3/12/19 at 9:02 pm to jangalang
Good for Dee. Well deserved. What a story also considering where he started.
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