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re: Auburn hires Arizona State OC Chip Lindsey

Posted on 1/13/17 at 12:49 pm to
Posted by blzr
Saratoga
Member since Mar 2011
30744 posts
Posted on 1/13/17 at 12:49 pm to
quote:

jrljr


quote:

Because McGlynn (maybe others) would have to go before we hired a Briles.

If you have another reason please, do share.


Are you still trying to pretend?
Posted by JRoweMDN
Florida
Member since Jan 2016
703 posts
Posted on 1/13/17 at 12:51 pm to
Reading an article about Helfrich's downfall at Oregon, it seemed like there was a discipline issue much like Chizik in '12. Does this concern anyone else? It reads like the team was divided, not following conditioning standards and eventually gave up. I know Gus held the team together until White was injured in the Sugar Bowl, but surely Lashlee had to help with that, and an OC that does not would be a problem.
Posted by blzr
Saratoga
Member since Mar 2011
30744 posts
Posted on 1/13/17 at 12:52 pm to
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. I know Gus held the team together until White was injured in the Sugar Bowl, but surely Lashlee had to help with that, and an OC that does not would be a problem.




Wasn't a problem when he was OC at Oregon
Posted by AUtigerNOLA
New Orleans, LA
Member since Apr 2011
17218 posts
Posted on 1/13/17 at 12:55 pm to
All we need the guy to do is install an great offense where it balances pass with run and call the right plays.
Posted by JRoweMDN
Florida
Member since Jan 2016
703 posts
Posted on 1/13/17 at 12:56 pm to
The article was from an Oregon paper obviously unhappy about his performance in leading them to the bottom. Not sure it is anything to matter, just something to read and wonder while we wait.

LINK
Posted by SamGinn Cam
Ventura, CA
Member since Jul 2013
2985 posts
Posted on 1/13/17 at 1:00 pm to
I read a similar article comparing Oregon's last two seasons with our 2011-12 seasons.

I think much like he did under Chip Kelly, he would operate within Gus' SOPs and protocols, and not have the level of overall authority to impact team unity, conditioning, etc. It would not be allowed to get anywhere near that point.

We've hit the same point multiple times: we either hire somebody outside of Gus' familiarity that runs their own playbook or someone inside of it that will receive Gus' playbook and told to pick from it. I can't see someone coming in from outside the circle that will be open to 'blending' their playbook with concepts from Gus'. That would be interesting but I can't see it. I will say I am not smart enough to see how one person calls run plays (Gus playbook) and another calls passing plays (someone elses).
Posted by AuburnCPA
Member since May 2008
18893 posts
Posted on 1/13/17 at 1:07 pm to
Guys it is official. Source said Helfrich presser at 4 at Sonic.
Posted by AUCE05
Member since Dec 2009
44866 posts
Posted on 1/13/17 at 1:10 pm to
Could have been his lack of experience in leadership.
Posted by headrusch
Member since Jan 2012
540 posts
Posted on 1/13/17 at 1:10 pm to
Print the creedshirts
Posted by FearlessFreep
Baja Alabama
Member since Nov 2009
19481 posts
Posted on 1/13/17 at 1:13 pm to
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What don't you understand about how it makes your program look when the head coach isn't allowed to make his own decisions?
I guess it all depends on how it's being handled.

I have no problem with a consensus of our BOT and AD going to our HC (in any sport) and saying "we're unhappy with your overall job performance, we feel you need to make some changes if you want to remain in our employ." And then allow the HC an opportunity to adjust his personnel accordingly.

What would concern me is the same group going to an HC and saying "we're unhappy with your overall job performance, so fire assistant A and hire B for the job".

More than likely, the current situation is a mix of both.

TWWA.
Posted by jrljr
Member since Aug 2012
4074 posts
Posted on 1/13/17 at 1:20 pm to



(ETA: Not really meant as response to blzr.)
This post was edited on 1/13/17 at 1:35 pm
Posted by allin2010
Auburn
Member since Aug 2011
18436 posts
Posted on 1/13/17 at 1:27 pm to
Gus makes the decisions, but he understands that he needs someone with a different understanding of the passing game, etc. Rhett did not provide that and getting another Rhett clone is not going to fix that.

He is getting guidance, but the decision will be his and his alone. He has been getting assurance that he can go for a home run hire and he hopes to pull that out.

Gus is stubborn, loyal, etc., but he is not stupid. He knows that his offense has sucked the last two years and can not suck this year or he is done.

Posted by jrljr
Member since Aug 2012
4074 posts
Posted on 1/13/17 at 1:33 pm to
Only thing I would disagree with is whether Gus is allowed to hire whomever?
Posted by allin2010
Auburn
Member since Aug 2011
18436 posts
Posted on 1/13/17 at 1:36 pm to
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Only thing I would disagree with is whether Gus is allowed to hire whomever?

Compliance has veto power (No Art, Trooper, etc.)
This post was edited on 1/13/17 at 1:37 pm
Posted by LandofDixie
Member since Jul 2012
2826 posts
Posted on 1/13/17 at 1:43 pm to
One thing Gus has always seemed to do well is cutting cancer out of the locker room and keeping the team united. I don't have any question in his ability to that, with or without Helfrich.
This post was edited on 1/13/17 at 1:44 pm
Posted by WareagleKK
Milton, GA (ur welcome for Lawson)
Member since May 2012
2749 posts
Posted on 1/13/17 at 1:47 pm to
quote:

One thing Gus has always seemed to do well is cutting cancer out of the locker room and keeping the team united. I don't have any question in his ability to that, with or without Helfrich.


totally true.
Posted by beatbammer
Member since Sep 2010
38764 posts
Posted on 1/13/17 at 2:11 pm to
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Guys it is official. Source said Helfrich presser at 4 at Sonic.


Please tell me he's a cherry limeaid guy.
Posted by LandofDixie
Member since Jul 2012
2826 posts
Posted on 1/13/17 at 2:31 pm to
Can someone be not a cherry limeade guy? Is that possible?
Posted by AUtigR24
Happy Hour
Member since Apr 2011
20120 posts
Posted on 1/13/17 at 2:41 pm to
I agree with most of what you said but honestly I believe if it were up to gus he would just hire Lindsey or someone else that will run his system.

The power brokers want a new systeme (as do I).
Posted by AUtigR24
Happy Hour
Member since Apr 2011
20120 posts
Posted on 1/13/17 at 2:49 pm to
Just watched Oregon vs UC Davis highlights. 2 offensive play of the game was a slant pass
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