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re: 2024-25 Basketball Thread - Save us Bruce. You're our only hope.

Posted on 8/20/24 at 5:29 pm to
Posted by CallFoy
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Posted on 8/20/24 at 5:29 pm to
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Stated JP should be the starter, and Denver will be the backup. Doesn’t like the idea of that though because he likes Denver as a pure shooter. Same with Pettiford.
I'd like to think he's fine with JP at point but (following his m.o.) would prefer he not play 30+ min/game. Based on last season, +/- 20 min would be more his preference. But this would put Denver and Tahaad playing the reamaining +/- 20 at pg between the two of them (in Pearl's ideal world of evenly splitting the minutes). I hope he relents on that philosophy a bit considering JP put in 34 min/game last year. Playing him 25-30 and splitting the remaining to Denver and Tahaad seems like a way to keep them predominately at the 2 where he likes them.

Either way, I agree with what's been said about him liking this team considering the schedule. Thanks for the info AUSCgrad2016, still good to get basketball info this time of year.
Posted by auburnnyc94
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Posted on 8/20/24 at 6:35 pm to
I don’t mind Denver playing the point in a pinch because he’s so trustworthy but I want playmakers getting the bulk of the minutes there. Denver hasn’t shown the ability to drive and score or drive and kick. Gotta be able to collapse the defense.

If it were up to me just based on the little I’ve seen I’d want the pg split to be Pegues/Pettiford/Denver 25/10/5. But Bruce doesn’t seem too interested in Pettiford at the 1 at all.
Posted by AA7
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Posted on 8/20/24 at 7:16 pm to
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But Bruce doesn’t seem too interested in Pettiford at the 1 at all.

Yeah it sounds like he wants him to just focused on getting buckets and not having the responsibility of running/initiating the offense too much. Tahaad is not going to be a guy to just post up and only be a spot up shooter so I’m excited to see how Bruce uses him. My guess is we will see some double screens and let him run some P&R sets even if he’s at the 2. He’s too athletic to not get some looks at the P&R.
Posted by AUSCgrad2016
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Posted on 8/20/24 at 8:13 pm to
You’re welcome CaliFoy, I try and get as much information about our basketball team as possible. It’s particularly difficult now since football season is starting. But yea, I’ll keep posting as long as I can find some good information.

As for the minutes at point guard, that is one of the very few criticisms I have of Pearl since he’s been here. I also believe that’s one of the main reasons we struggle in the postseason. Our starters don’t play enough consistently with each other to have that chemistry that you see in other teams who are successful in the tournament. I’ve played a lot of basketball, and it’s rare to ever have more than 7, possibly 8, players that contribute significant minutes during the season. In order to gain that chemistry, as a coach, you have to play those 7 guys the most minutes in order for them to be familiar with each other. Having 10-11 guys split minutes is not good for the starters’ chemistry as well as no team in college basketball since 2012 UK have 10 guys that should play significant minutes.

If I was Pearl, I would split the minutes up as follows:

Pegues-30/ Pettiford-10
Denver- 30/ Pettiford- 10
Miles- 20/CBM-20
Chaney-25/ Jakhi-15
Broome- 30/Cardwell 10

Honestly, I believe that Pegues, Denver, Miles, CBM and Broome should all get at least 30 minutes a game and the rest depends on who has the hot hand for that game.
Posted by AUmemphis
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Posted on 8/20/24 at 9:33 pm to
That’s an incredibly hard OOC. Especially considering who we might also play in the Maui series. Not complaining- just stating the obvious.
Posted by AUSCgrad2016
Member since Apr 2024
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Posted on 8/20/24 at 9:48 pm to
Honestly, if you break it down, it’s not that daunting. We have the talent to win most of those games. The only one where I see as a likely loss is at Duke. I think Houston and Iowa State are toss ups. I think we beat Purdue and Ohio State easily. Also, Pearl scheduling like this means he has a lot of faith in this team and sees the potential we have to compete for a national title. Pearl has never scheduled like this since he has been at Auburn. Pearl has been more vocal as well about how he really likes this group. This schedule will also help us navigate the SEC schedule. We are not going to play at a tougher place than Cameron Indoors. Our players will not be intimidated when we go into conference play.
This post was edited on 8/20/24 at 9:49 pm
Posted by makersmark1
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Posted on 8/21/24 at 5:19 am to
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If I was Pearl, I would split the minutes up


In the early season non-marquee games, we may see some lineups that are just to see who can handle different scenarios that might occur due to foul trouble, matchups, or injury.

I would assume against an elite team Denver would be getting minutes at PG if Pegues needs a break or has foul trouble, etc.

I would think Pettiford will get a look at PG in some early season minutes in case we need a third option.
Posted by AUSCgrad2016
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Posted on 8/21/24 at 11:18 am to
I agree that he will play around with the lineups against opponents we clearly overmatch. I also think Pettiford will be used in emergency situations at the point guard.
Ideally, at the end of games, I think this will be the lineup we see though:

Pegues
Jones
Kelly
CBM
Broome

I think we are going to see our best 5 players on the court, regardless of position and right now, those are our best 5.
Posted by makersmark1
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Posted on 8/21/24 at 11:23 am to
Kelly and Jones together?

Who do you try to deny the 3?

Both? Then CBM slashes or dump into Broome.

I like it.
Posted by AUSCgrad2016
Member since Apr 2024
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Posted on 8/21/24 at 2:43 pm to
Exactly my point. I don’t agree with putting a guy on the floor just because he’s a “4” or “3” or what have you. Now, most great players need to play at least 2 positions. You have that with this lineup outside of Pegues, who was a great point guard at Furman and hopefully will be with us. But yea, I don’t understand the logic in putting in Chaney Johnson just to have a “4” out there if he’s not producing many points. Will he get some playing time? Sure, but really should be coming in just to be a breather for our starters. As I’ve stated earlier in this thread, I really wish Pearl would get away from his hockey lineup and have those 5-6 guys play at least 30 minutes a game unless it’s a blowout. Again, I think that’s been an issue with the chemistry on the court, especially at the end of close games, since our starters don’t have that much playing time with each other due to all of the substitutions. I might be in the minority, but I have played basketball and been around basketball for over 20 years. Teams nowadays play 7 players, 8 at the most, at the end of the season. And that’s all you need. Here are my top 8 players who should get the minutes:

1) Broome
2) Kelly
3) Jones
4) CBM
5) Pegues
6) Pettiford
7) Cardwell
8) Jakhi/Chaney
This post was edited on 8/21/24 at 2:44 pm
Posted by auburnnyc94
Member since Nov 2017
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Posted on 8/21/24 at 2:47 pm to
I'd like Chaney to start and get bulk of the minutes at the 4. He can matchup athletically and hang on the boards with the better 4's in league play.

He won't be asked to score much. I do like the idea of CBM at the 4 in certain situations though. Would be a ridiculously dangerous offensive lineup.
Posted by AUSCgrad2016
Member since Apr 2024
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Posted on 8/21/24 at 3:07 pm to
And that’s why I would have him come off the bench. I think with him, Pettiford and Cardwell coming off the bench, with a couple of our starters in there, there won’t be much drop off as our other starters get rest. Again, I don’t believe in sacrificing an offensive skilled player for a guy who might get you 6-7 points a game.
Also, as the other poster said, imagine at the end of games having to guard Broome, Kelly, Pegues, Jones and CBM. Maybe I’m bias, but there’s not a single team in the nation that would be able to guard those players one on one. So, that means they’ll have to double team someone on our team. You double team Broome, he’ll kick out to one of Kelly, Jones or CBM. Double team Kelly or CBM, Broome is open. I’m telling you, that lineup, if they play to their potential or close to it, will be unstoppable.
Posted by AUSCgrad2016
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Posted on 8/22/24 at 12:00 pm to
Schedule update: Auburn will be playing Kent State at home on November 13.
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Posted on 8/22/24 at 12:54 pm to
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This post was edited on 8/22/24 at 12:56 pm
Posted by auburnnyc94
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Posted on 8/22/24 at 1:47 pm to
Well placed tune up between Houston game and Maui
Posted by auburnnyc94
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Posted on 8/22/24 at 1:49 pm to
I agree with your general points I just think over the course of the SEC grind that type lineup would struggle. In the tourney though? Yeah keep the best dudes on the floor for the bulk of the game one way or another.

I do think Chaney might surprise us offensively this year but would need to see a leap for sure. Bruce thinks he has a high ceiling, he just struggles with confidence. He has shown evidence of having a bag of sorts.
Posted by AUSCgrad2016
Member since Apr 2024
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Posted on 8/22/24 at 1:58 pm to
I see where you are coming from. And that lineup would mostly be for the end of games. And I think Chaney will improve, but I don’t think he’s one of our top 6 players, right now. The thing that hurt Chaney a lot last year was on defense where he was out of position most of the time and was getting burned or making silly fouls. If he cleans that up, he’ll see the floor more.
Posted by CallFoy
Member since Oct 2022
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Posted on 8/22/24 at 7:55 pm to
You have to go back to the 20’-21’ season for Bruce to play anybody over 29 min a game when Cooper got 31 and Flanigan got 30. Jabari only got 28.8 and Kessler 25.6. I’m just not sure I see Bruce playing multiple guys 30 min/game. It seems the obvious choices are Broome and Pegues but beyond that is iffy (unless Bruce changes his ways).
Posted by auburnnyc94
Member since Nov 2017
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Posted on 8/22/24 at 8:21 pm to
Posted by AUSCgrad2016
Member since Apr 2024
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Posted on 8/22/24 at 8:25 pm to
Oh I understand that Bruce will more than likely stick to what he has been doing since he’s been here with the lineups. I’m just giving my opinion on what it should look like. Again, I think it’s been one of the bigger issues why we flounder in the tournament, our starters don’t have that much experience playing with each other.
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