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Posted on 12/20/21 at 6:00 pm to jvilletiger25
No clue. One is 6’10, though
Posted on 12/20/21 at 6:04 pm to jvilletiger25
Haskins - 3 star out of high school. Played in all the games this year. According to UVA’s website he graded at 92% overall, 94% for run plays and 91% for pass. Played in 8 of 10 games the year before. Played in all games the year before
6’7” 295
6’7” 295
This post was edited on 12/20/21 at 6:18 pm
Posted on 12/20/21 at 6:08 pm to Weagle25
Swobada - 6’10” 325
3 str out of high school. Appeared in 33 games over last 3 seasons. Started all games for past two seasons.
3 str out of high school. Appeared in 33 games over last 3 seasons. Started all games for past two seasons.
Posted on 12/20/21 at 6:10 pm to Poker Dough
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Is it outside the realm of possibility that Gus wasn't being picky enough and was taking guys that didn't have a high enough ceiling to develop into SEC players?
This is a interesting statement. Not pointing at you Poker, I totally understand your statement. But it does somewhat lie in the same realm with the ones who always stated that Gus loaded up the recruiting classes with higher ranked players that were poorly evaluated and were not SEC players
So what I ask is, who are these players? What players did Gus bring in that were not only highly ranked (you know to pump up the rankings) that were not also offered by some of the other bigger SEC programs? It would be interesting to see who those players were
My only point here is that Malzahn did not bring in guys that were ranked high just to boost the rankings. That is total mouth breathers stating that. The issue was always development and bad luck at times, with these guys. We brought in guys that either we had shitty luck with and some that purely did not get developed which is a coaching problem, not a recruiting issue
When I say shitty luck, Im talking guys like Kyle Davis, Christian Westerman, etc. Guys with shite loads of talent but for some reason, just could not get out of their own way.
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Maybe Gus' problem was an evaluation one and not player development?
I think its both and I think every coach faces it. Harsin will as well. His 3rd highest ranked player from last year just hit the portal. There is no avoiding it
This post was edited on 12/20/21 at 6:12 pm
Posted on 12/20/21 at 6:10 pm to Weagle25
Nourzad - 6’4” 298
Not rated out of high school. Started 19 consecutive games at RT. All-Ivy league this year.
Not rated out of high school. Started 19 consecutive games at RT. All-Ivy league this year.
Posted on 12/20/21 at 6:12 pm to Weagle25
Rolland 6’6” 325
First team all-Ivy league. 2 star out of high school
First team all-Ivy league. 2 star out of high school
Posted on 12/20/21 at 6:23 pm to LanierSpots
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His 3rd highest ranked player from last year just hit the portal. There is no avoiding it
If you’re talking about Harvey — Gus’s staff recruited him and he signed before Harsin was hired.
I do agree with your post, though. So much goes into players panning out that it can’t be reduced to one reason.
22 spots on the field. We bring in 25ish guys a season. Most don’t work out. Goes back to what I’ve been saying lately. Talent acquisition business. Load and reload
This post was edited on 12/20/21 at 6:27 pm
Posted on 12/20/21 at 6:32 pm to TheJones
quote:headhunter?
Talent acquisition business.
Posted on 12/20/21 at 6:39 pm to TheJones
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If you’re talking about Harvey — Gus’s staff recruited him and he signed before Harsin was hired.
I get it but we kept his commit and going by some here, that means he was not developed?
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22 spots on the field. We bring in 25ish guys a season. Most don’t work out. Goes back to what I’ve been saying lately. Talent acquisition business. Load and reload
If you look at the talent being brought in by Kirby, how much of that talent "wont be developed"? A ton of it. A ton will transfer. Goes to your statement, keep reloading. Its the only way
Posted on 12/20/21 at 6:40 pm to CorchJay
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Ok I'm done talking
Best thing I’ve heard from you yet. Please don’t disappoint me anymore. Thanks
Posted on 12/20/21 at 6:55 pm to LanierSpots
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I get it but we kept his commit and going by some here, that means he was not developed?
He signed. He committed back in August 2020. Literally signed binding paperwork before Harsin was hired.
If you need a name for your weird scenario of blame here then you can use Steele instead
He was in charge that ESDThis post was edited on 12/20/21 at 6:56 pm
Posted on 12/20/21 at 6:58 pm to LanierSpots
Gus crew doin work today
Posted on 12/20/21 at 6:58 pm to Weagle25
These types of under the radar players are probably the best ones in the portal usually. We signed 2 top rated guys last year from other big time programs that were not that good: Finley and Roberson. The guys who played the best came from lesser programs: Leota, Harris, Fair.
Posted on 12/20/21 at 7:08 pm to TheJones
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If you need a name for your weird scenario of blame here then you can use Steele instead He was in charge that ESD
It doesnt matter when he came and it fits my explanation exactly. You are just being too biased to want to see it. Nobody is blaming anyone, just a explanation of what every coach faces
Posted on 12/20/21 at 7:16 pm to LanierSpots
Wait what am I being biased about? It’s just a simple fact. Harvey signed binding paperwork with Auburn after Gus was fired and before Harsin was hired.
That’s not me taking a side or coming in with a point to make. It’s just literally what happened.
Harsin did actually recruit guys after he was hired and he did sign players on NSD. Harvey just wasn’t one of them
It’s just a simple fact. Harvey signed binding paperwork with Auburn after Gus was fired and before Harsin was hired. That’s not me taking a side or coming in with a point to make. It’s just literally what happened.
Harsin did actually recruit guys after he was hired and he did sign players on NSD. Harvey just wasn’t one of them
Posted on 12/20/21 at 7:34 pm to TheJones
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Wait what am I being biased about? It’s just a simple fact. Harvey signed binding paperwork with Auburn after Gus was fired and before Harsin was hired.
That’s not me taking a side or coming in with a point to make. It’s just literally what happened.
Harsin did actually recruit guys after he was hired and he did sign players on NSD. Harvey just wasn’t one of them
You missed the point of the whole thing. Nobody was blaming anyone. But carry on boss.
Posted on 12/20/21 at 7:35 pm to LanierSpots
I missed the point that I agreed with you on?
I’ve heard it all now.
I’ve heard it all now.
Posted on 12/20/21 at 7:36 pm to TheJones
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I missed the point that I agreed with you on?
How about this one. Just frick off
That covers the rest you have not heard.
Posted on 12/20/21 at 7:38 pm to LanierSpots
I’ve been hearing that too lately
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