re: 2022 Fall Camp Discussion Thread- Retired

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Maybe so but what is more likely?

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We're Auburn. It's entirely likely he goes 9-3 with a surprising win over an Alabama or UGA, and then leaves us for Arizona State.

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We're Auburn. It's entirely likely he goes 9-3 with a surprising win over an Alabama or UGA, and then leaves us for Airzona State.

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Well then he would be untouchable; fans would embrace him like Bruce Pearl. But that’s not going to happen.

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Who do you think we will hire?

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I have no idea, but Dave Aranda will not spend his entire career at Baylor and Deion Sanders will get a way better job than Jackson State. Those are two options.

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That is true LCT, but that’s an actual upgrade in lifestyle. Harsin isn’t going to leave for an Arizona or similar out of spite.

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Phoenix/Tempe is a real up and coming area, and unlike here, your instate rival is shite.

Except coaches we wanted to hire have brought up the problems here at our school and program, but keep your head in the sand kid.


Janghdad Bob

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You do know it's possible to believe that an inordinate amount of detrimental booster meddling is occurring at AU while simultaneously NOT believing that the HC is Christ reincarnate?

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Again, give me ONE example of how he's been meddled with. I gave you quite a few things that actually happened which clearly suggest that he actually has pretty full control to run this team however he sees fit. Did the boosters step in his way when he chose to fire Corn Williams after 4 games? Did they step in his way and prevent him from hiring Austin Davis? Booster meddling caused Bo Nix to get traded out for Zach Calzada, who is now running 3rd string?

Actually, there was SOME meddling. For one, he wasn't allowed to hire Zak Hill as his OC. What a bunch of buffoons, not allowing the HC to hire his buddy as he's about to get railed by the NCAA for an encyclopedia amount of recruiting violations.

"Booster meddling" has become a clown-show excuse to wash away ineptitude. Any time something is going wrong with the AU football team, you can rest assured that booster meddling is apparently playing some type of role.

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This may all be true - but he was 6-2 and ranked in the top 15 along the way, which implies that year one wasn't entirely 'idiotic choices and mistakes'.

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That's fair, it wasn't entirely idiotic choices. However, there were too many blatant coaching mistakes made for this conference. It's a pretty big jump going from Boise where he has to actually prepare for ~3 games a year, to the SEC - and losing 5 straight to end the season really paints it clear that he hit a major wall. He got extra servings of humble pie, for a guy who came in thinking he had the secret formula to "buck the trend" in the SEC.

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There are quite a few of us who are deeply questioning Harsin's ability to successfully lead the AU football program. That doesn't mean that certain deep-pocketed individuals didn't try to sabotage him in the offseason, and aren't actively rooting for him to fail miserably this year (costing us another $20 million or so) just so they can hire - whom, exactly?

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They "sabotaged" him because the administration chose to investigate allegations that absolutely had to be investigated in 2022? Maybe he should have waited more than 20 minutes before acting like a dickhead and self-imposing targets on himself?

I haven't seen one rational explanation by the conspiracy theorists as to what you think actually happened there. Were the complaints completely made up? Have you ever seen multiple starters from a football team openly call out a HC before?

Do you want to know what sabotage is? It's Bryan Harsin going BACK to ESPN in late April to for some reason open up the story again about what happened in February. The story was literally over after he "won" and retained his job. Nobody was even talking about it anymore. So apart from his own personal gain, why would he do that? What exactly does that serve? That was actual sabotage, to paint himself as the helpless victim. The school investigating allegations that allegedly came from former players and potentially even former coaches isn't "sabotage".

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Except coaches we wanted to hire have brought up the problems here at our school and program,

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I think you read too much into too little. We reward those that do well, we hate babysitting those that don’t. It’s probably a vetting problem but how in the hell do we hire an offensive genius that has to relinquish the playbook multiple times or hire a western guy that doesn’t like recruiting or NIL.

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Except coaches we wanted to hire have brought up the problems here at our school and program, but keep your head in the sand kid.

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The problems highlighted in the 2020 coaching search is that the boosters were not aligned with the AD who was not aligned with the President. Hopefully that situation is going to be improved upon with a new President and whoever he hires at AD.

The boosters are certainly an overzealous group, but it’s less unique to other football schools than the media narrative would like you to believe.

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The boosters are certainly an overzealous group, but it’s less unique to other football schools than the media narrative would like you to believe.

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I'm basing our issues on my narrative that I see as our continued problems. The media is just highlighting it.


I mean frick even you just commented on it before telling me it's the media narrative, Too funny