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re: 2022-23 Auburn basketball season thread- 21-13 (10-9) Season over

Posted on 1/26/23 at 3:55 pm to
Posted by i am dan
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Posted on 1/26/23 at 3:55 pm to
Yes, it's exactly like football. It's a college sport. We get a good coach who performs and we throw millions at him after a good season or two. Yes, I know Bruce has a lifetime contract at Auburn. Bruce made Auburn basketball relevant. Gus got us to the Title game twice and we ended up buying out his contract for $22 million or whatever it was a few years later because we pretty much just started sucking and was owned by our two rivals.

Bruce lack of recruiting guards and the need of having better game plans is already getting hinted at on this board.

Don't get me wrong. I love Coach Pearl. I love what he has done at Auburn. I want him here a long time. He did what we expected him to do.

But there are a few new wrinkles. Alabama is one of the top teams in the country this year. Will probably beat the shite out of us both games.

Now Pearl will begin to be compared to Oats who is performing off the charts this year. That's just the relationship of sports in Alabama.

All I'm saying is maybe cool the jets a bit. Just because we got to the Final4 a few years ago, doesn't mean to throw extra millions to Pearl. Auburn is pretty middle of the road in the SEC right now. Hell, we got waxed at home by aTm last night. Already talk of us not even making the tournament.

Carry on with your homer fanatical talk though and calling people stupid for using logic. Maybe I'm just tired of the message board bullshite. I don't even like talking sports with Auburn fans anymore. Many of you are too much into this shite.

I don't even know which post my initial response was to.. Don't feel like looking back through the thread.
Posted by AU_251
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Posted on 1/26/23 at 3:55 pm to
Why do y’all keep replying to this clown? Watching his constantly bleed out his vag is cringe as hell. Ignore him
Posted by RockyMtnTigerWDE
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Posted on 1/26/23 at 6:49 pm to
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it's exactly like football


I almost stopped here.

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Bruce lack of recruiting guards and the need of having better game plans is already getting hinted at on this board.



No he hasn't you have disregarded the explanations of what happened to some of his top recruits.

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Don't get me wrong. I love Coach Pearl. I love what he has done at Auburn. I want him here a long time. He did what we expected him to do.

This contradicts so much you have already said and nothing like football.

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But there are a few new wrinkles. Alabama is one of the top teams in the country this year. Will probably beat the shite out of us both games.

Now Pearl will begin to be compared to Oats who is performing off the charts this year. That's just the relationship of sports in Alabama.



As has been stated things change quickly in basketball. Where a recruiting class in football could take a couple of years to fully impact a team, a basketball recruiting class can majorly impact a BB season immediately. Way different than football.

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All I'm saying is maybe cool the jets a bit. Just because we got to the Final4 a few years ago, doesn't mean to throw extra millions to Pearl. Auburn is pretty middle of the road in the SEC right now. Hell, we got waxed at home by aTm last night. Already talk of us not even making the tournament.



Pearl has earned the salary given when you look at the arena being sold out and the national focus that he has brought to Auburn. What he has done for Auburn cannot fully be appreciated with just wins and losses, but he is getting those too.

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using logic
Flawed logic doesn't make it a valid argument, and I am sorry but that is what you have used here in your total argument. You disagree with the size of his guards? fine, cool have the debate. If trying to share real logic with you is homer fanatical than that's your issue.


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Maybe I'm just tired of the message board bull shite. I don't even like talking sports with Auburn fans anymore. Many of you are too much into this shite.


You have said this a lot and maybe you should take a break. People that come to a sports message board and spend time posting probably really into the sports scene bruh.

I think you're opinion is a little misguided here is my opinion based on all we know. It is apples and oranges talking BB and FB. The fact you refuse to see that is one of your flaws to your argument.

I think you're a good dude overall, but maybe a sports board where fellow fans are really into the different facets that go with it may just not be your thing. WDE
Posted by jangalang
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Posted on 1/26/23 at 6:53 pm to
Recruiting Troubles brewing on the plains?

LINK

Posted by RockyMtnTigerWDE
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Posted on 1/26/23 at 6:56 pm to
I have no idea who the jet guy is.

Is he a known "insider"?
Posted by jangalang
Member since Dec 2014
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Posted on 1/26/23 at 6:57 pm to
Just a local


I asked him some questions about General Burgess last February. He knows a few people but wouldn’t claim to be an insider by no means.
This post was edited on 1/26/23 at 7:00 pm
Posted by GruntAu
Member since Jul 2017
753 posts
Posted on 1/26/23 at 7:03 pm to
We have come a long long way, but we aren’t past the point of getting two players for one year and losing them to the NBA. That is hard to plan for..
Posted by jangalang
Member since Dec 2014
51308 posts
Posted on 1/26/23 at 7:11 pm to
We planned on Jabari being gone when we got him lol.

As for Walker: us getting him literally gutted Roy Williams.

You have to plan for that shite when you get that talent. That’s no excuse. If it’s an excuse: go find the next Tyler Hansborough which has to play every year
Posted by Stidham8
Member since Aug 2018
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Posted on 1/26/23 at 8:01 pm to
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We didn't play our best ball in March but to call it a collapse is willful non-enjoyment. We lost 3 SEC games and won the league outright. I'm done here, I hope Hugh Freeze meets all your wildest expectations my friend. I don't even know what points you are trying to make.


We looked like a .500 conference team by the end of the regular season. Then we got bounced in the first round of the SEC tournament and smoked by an average Miami team in the 2nd round.

It was a complete collapse, sunshine pumper.
Posted by auburnnyc94
Member since Nov 2017
9994 posts
Posted on 1/26/23 at 8:09 pm to
You’re giving me whiplash about what our goals should be and the state of the program. That Miami team made it to the elite 8. Isn’t that all you care about? Or was it regular seasons? Conference tourney? What are we doing here? Top 8 AP finish and top 12 KenPom finish. Collapse!
Posted by Stidham8
Member since Aug 2018
9755 posts
Posted on 1/26/23 at 8:18 pm to
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You’re giving me whiplash about what our goals should be and the state of the program. That Miami team made it to the elite 8. Isn’t that all you care about? Or was it regular seasons? Conference tourney? What are we doing here? Top 8 AP finish and top 12 KenPom finish. Collapse!


The program is in a tailspin at the moment and it's about to get worse with the remaining schedule. We've nosedived since the #1 ranking.

We got beaten in ROUND 1 of the SEC tournament and Miami made us look like a high school team as a #2 seed. We were a fraud and it was a really poor finish.
This post was edited on 1/26/23 at 8:19 pm
Posted by auburnnyc94
Member since Nov 2017
9994 posts
Posted on 1/26/23 at 8:23 pm to
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The program is in a tailspin at the moment


Noted. Guess I’ll have to adjust to this. Thanks for letting me know.
Posted by CorchJay
Member since Nov 2018
21152 posts
Posted on 1/26/23 at 8:31 pm to
I guess I'm out to. Shouldn't even watch. Everyone with tickets turn them back in.
Posted by greygoose
Member since Aug 2013
14535 posts
Posted on 1/26/23 at 9:04 pm to
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Start giving Allen and KD’s minutes to other players
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Allen has been trash for 2-3 years now,
All this! Allen can drive to the bucket with the best. Super quick first step......and can't make a layup. I used to have hope that his game would improve, but it hasn't.
Posted by CorchJay
Member since Nov 2018
21152 posts
Posted on 1/26/23 at 9:34 pm to
I know Flanigan is gone after this year I would guess but I haven't noticed him being the issue this season. He's protecting the ball better over the past month. He's never gonna be known for his handles but his defense and physical presence is needed on this team just like CMo's is. Let's look a little deeper into the number other then ok this guy score 14 a game or this guy score 3 points a game.

3pt %
Green - 27.9%
Broome - 23.1%
Williams - 37.9%
Flanigan - 32.8%
Johnson - 27%
Moore - 50%
Jasper - 30.4%
Traore - 20.8%
Westry - 0.0%
Cardwell - 0.0% (not sure he has an attempt)
Berman - 40%
Donaldson -22.2%

So who gets more minutes to help with our biggest offensive issue? There's the numbers help me figure it out. Bruce will develop players over the course of a year if they are improving, learning, and developing. He will not sacrifice a year to just get young players minutes.
Posted by CorchJay
Member since Nov 2018
21152 posts
Posted on 1/26/23 at 9:40 pm to
3pt attempts

Green - 86
Johnson - 63
Flanigan - 61
Williams - 58
Jasper - 46
Traore - 24
Donaldson - 18
Moore - 16
Westry - 14
Broome - 13
Berman - 10
Cardwell - 1
Posted by CorchJay
Member since Nov 2018
21152 posts
Posted on 1/26/23 at 9:52 pm to
net rankings we got smoked by last nights loss

we fell from 23 to 33. You get around that 30-40 ranking you are playing with fire of being like a 10-12 seed or possibly a play in game.

That number should get a little better as I expect a&m to beat some teams down the stretch but we can't lose very many more games that aren't quad 1 type games.
Posted by jangalang
Member since Dec 2014
51308 posts
Posted on 1/26/23 at 10:17 pm to
We are inept against good teams and kinda suck then, but Bruce usually rebounds well. I imagine Bruce wants to correct why we are inept

We don’t suck enough to warrant Stidham but don’t have the chemistry to warrant some of auburnnyc’s optimism.

We have experienced players that play like freshmen. Freshmen that don’t play. it’s easier to convince me more of the same-o with KD/ Flan than telling me they are about to flip the light switch. How our season is going to go is pretty much laid out there pretty clearly,

I really don’t get all the anguish and denial. Dan was pretty much right, too

Posted by RockyMtnTigerWDE
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Member since Oct 2010
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Posted on 1/26/23 at 10:21 pm to
Dan was right about what? I’m asking for a reason. I don’t disagree with criticizing the play nor his right to share his opinion on the type of guards Bruce recruits. I do disagree with how Bruce was contracted. I mean he even contradicted himself in some respect on that one.

I also disagree that BB and FB are one in the sane.

No anguish from me by the way.

I don’t want dan to go but he seems like he wants to but gets sucked back in?
This post was edited on 1/26/23 at 10:30 pm
Posted by blzr
Saratoga
Member since Mar 2011
30744 posts
Posted on 1/26/23 at 11:01 pm to
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Yes, it's exactly like football. It's a college sport. We get a good coach who performs and we throw millions at him after a good season or two. Yes, I know Bruce has a lifetime contract at Auburn. Bruce made Auburn basketball relevant. Gus got us to the Title game twice and we ended up buying out his contract for $22 million or whatever it was a few years later because we pretty much just started sucking and was owned by our two rivals. Bruce lack of recruiting guards and the need of having better game plans is already getting hinted at on this board. Don't get me wrong. I love Coach Pearl. I love what he has done at Auburn. I want him here a long time. He did what we expected him to do. But there are a few new wrinkles. Alabama is one of the top teams in the country this year. Will probably beat the shite out of us both games. Now Pearl will begin to be compared to Oats who is performing off the charts this year. That's just the relationship of sports in Alabama. All I'm saying is maybe cool the jets a bit. Just because we got to the Final4 a few years ago, doesn't mean to throw extra millions to Pearl.


My god you are a fricking retard. Why do you care how much the greatest coach that will come near auburn basketball makes? You fricking idiots
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