Started By
Message
re: 2019 Football Recruiting Thread - Auburn Goes 4/7 & Land Brothers
Posted on 7/30/18 at 9:17 am to AUarch79
Posted on 7/30/18 at 9:17 am to AUarch79
quote:
It seems that the majority of people on this board are fine with finishing in the 8-12 range of recruiting each yr. Some of us aren't. 2010 and 2013 were amazing and surprise yrs because of Cam and Marshall. AU is only "lucky" in the eyes of many. So unless we are lucky again, you guys that settle should not get too upset when we lose 3/4 games each yr and Bama and UGA battle it out each yr for #1.
So how are you going to change it?
1
Posted on 7/30/18 at 9:18 am to AUarch79
quote:
you guys that settle should not get too upset when we lose 3/4 games each yr and Bama and UGA battle it out each yr for #1.
I think you are giving UGA too much credit. They are on a roll now but historically, they are no better than Auburn.
Bama on the other hand is a different level.
Posted on 7/30/18 at 9:39 am to TigerPaw1
quote:
It seems that the majority of people on this board are fine with finishing in the 8-12 range of recruiting each yr. Some of us aren't. 2010 and 2013 were amazing and surprise yrs because of Cam and Marshall. AU is only "lucky" in the eyes of many. So unless we are lucky again, you guys that settle should not get too upset when we lose 3/4 games each yr and Bama and UGA battle it out each yr for #1.
So how are you going to change it?[quote]
Honestly? I'm good with our coaches on the D side but not so much with the O coaches. They try and work hard but they are not getting it done for the most part. Sorry but I don't think Gus is an offensive guru; he's also not a qb coach. Chip Lindsay? I really don't know what to think. What is his real identity as a coach. We run our RB to the ground each yr and it is a big reason we can't recruit elite backs. We miss on elite QBs but thankfully Nix is a legacy. Oline recruiting has been lacking for several yrs. Part of it is poor evaluation of talent, lack of development, and/or having to settle after missing on targets. WR recruiting has actually been a bright spot although not sure that has translated into route running and catching. Is that GM? CL? Position coaches? all? So while I would never call out coaches since this is their livelihood, we have some shortcomings in our O staff. No reason AU can't have the same success as Clemson. They certainly aren't making excuses.
We need to make a statement with the Washington game. Who here isn't already doubting this team will be ready to play? I hope we kick their teeth in and never look back.
It seems that the majority of people on this board are fine with finishing in the 8-12 range of recruiting each yr. Some of us aren't. 2010 and 2013 were amazing and surprise yrs because of Cam and Marshall. AU is only "lucky" in the eyes of many. So unless we are lucky again, you guys that settle should not get too upset when we lose 3/4 games each yr and Bama and UGA battle it out each yr for #1.
So how are you going to change it?[quote]
Honestly? I'm good with our coaches on the D side but not so much with the O coaches. They try and work hard but they are not getting it done for the most part. Sorry but I don't think Gus is an offensive guru; he's also not a qb coach. Chip Lindsay? I really don't know what to think. What is his real identity as a coach. We run our RB to the ground each yr and it is a big reason we can't recruit elite backs. We miss on elite QBs but thankfully Nix is a legacy. Oline recruiting has been lacking for several yrs. Part of it is poor evaluation of talent, lack of development, and/or having to settle after missing on targets. WR recruiting has actually been a bright spot although not sure that has translated into route running and catching. Is that GM? CL? Position coaches? all? So while I would never call out coaches since this is their livelihood, we have some shortcomings in our O staff. No reason AU can't have the same success as Clemson. They certainly aren't making excuses.
We need to make a statement with the Washington game. Who here isn't already doubting this team will be ready to play? I hope we kick their teeth in and never look back.
Posted on 7/30/18 at 9:42 am to LanierSpots
exactly!
Ga under Richt consistently had top 5 talent or top ten. And they pretty much had similar records to what Malzahn is doing. And Malzahn did play for the Natl Champ in 2013 where I don't recall Richt ever playing for an NC.
Smart is on an early roll, much like many new head coaches do like CHizik, Malzahn, etc...but he is now in his 3rd year. Let's see how his teams do in years 3-6 with TOP 5 talent?
What i am saying it is no guarantee, and please don't compare all of us to Alabama. Saban is in another stratosphere.
Do i want top 5? Hell yes, but I learned over the years, that as long as you get top 10, we will ALWAYS be in the hunt.
The key is to recruit to your needs, and if we do that we will be in the hunt for NC playoffs.
Ga under Richt consistently had top 5 talent or top ten. And they pretty much had similar records to what Malzahn is doing. And Malzahn did play for the Natl Champ in 2013 where I don't recall Richt ever playing for an NC.
Smart is on an early roll, much like many new head coaches do like CHizik, Malzahn, etc...but he is now in his 3rd year. Let's see how his teams do in years 3-6 with TOP 5 talent?
What i am saying it is no guarantee, and please don't compare all of us to Alabama. Saban is in another stratosphere.
Do i want top 5? Hell yes, but I learned over the years, that as long as you get top 10, we will ALWAYS be in the hunt.
The key is to recruit to your needs, and if we do that we will be in the hunt for NC playoffs.
Posted on 7/30/18 at 9:48 am to Tigerman97
This should probably be posted repeatedly every other week. 
Posted on 7/30/18 at 9:48 am to AuSteeler
Do we have a time for Booth? Wanna have refreshments ready for the full melt.
Posted on 7/30/18 at 9:49 am to AuSteeler
Georgia recruits well because of their in-state talent level- essentially reeling them in out of a barrel of fish. Their landing of Emery, a Louisiana kid, at a stacked position, is impressive though and should be acknowledged.
Posted on 7/30/18 at 9:59 am to AUarch79
I agree with some of your statement but not all.
What proof do you have that is the reason we cant recruit elite backs? That is a huge stretch. Do you think elite backs want to come to a program where they can be the man or they can share carries with someone else. Remember we are talking about cocky young kids. I just do not believe that.
I cant say that I understand why we are not getting 5* backs consistently but I do not believe that is it.
Nothing to say yet that Nix is a elite QB. Right now, he is just a kid in high school just like a lot of the other kids we have had. I hope he is the next coming but until he is, he isn't. There is no doubt we have not developed QB;s well but some of that has been the kids, not the coaching
I sorta agree with you but Clemson does not have the instate pressure from another program like Auburn does
Would be huge. Im not ready to believe we will stomp them right now. But I believe we are the better team and should win the game. Of course I thought that about UCF and we fell on our faces
quote:
We run our RB to the ground each yr and it is a big reason we can't recruit elite backs.
What proof do you have that is the reason we cant recruit elite backs? That is a huge stretch. Do you think elite backs want to come to a program where they can be the man or they can share carries with someone else. Remember we are talking about cocky young kids. I just do not believe that.
I cant say that I understand why we are not getting 5* backs consistently but I do not believe that is it.
quote:
We miss on elite QBs but thankfully Nix is a legacy.
Nothing to say yet that Nix is a elite QB. Right now, he is just a kid in high school just like a lot of the other kids we have had. I hope he is the next coming but until he is, he isn't. There is no doubt we have not developed QB;s well but some of that has been the kids, not the coaching
quote:
No reason AU can't have the same success as Clemson. They certainly aren't making excuses.
I sorta agree with you but Clemson does not have the instate pressure from another program like Auburn does
quote:
We need to make a statement with the Washington game. Who here isn't already doubting this team will be ready to play? I hope we kick their teeth in and never look back.
Would be huge. Im not ready to believe we will stomp them right now. But I believe we are the better team and should win the game. Of course I thought that about UCF and we fell on our faces
Posted on 7/30/18 at 10:03 am to AUarch79
quote:
Honestly? I'm good with our coaches on the D side but not so much with the O coaches. They try and work hard but they are not getting it done for the most part. Sorry but I don't think Gus is an offensive guru; he's also not a qb coach. Chip Lindsay? I really don't know what to think. What is his real identity as a coach. We run our RB to the ground each yr and it is a big reason we can't recruit elite backs. We miss on elite QBs but thankfully Nix is a legacy. Oline recruiting has been lacking for several yrs. Part of it is poor evaluation of talent, lack of development, and/or having to settle after missing on targets. WR recruiting has actually been a bright spot although not sure that has translated into route running and catching. Is that GM? CL? Position coaches? all? So while I would never call out coaches since this is their livelihood, we have some shortcomings in our O staff. No reason AU can't have the same success as Clemson. They certainly aren't making excuses.
We need to make a statement with the Washington game. Who here isn't already doubting this team will be ready to play? I hope we kick their teeth in and never look back.
Personally, I don't think AU's recruiting is the problem. I feel good that we have the talent to compete every year & win some SEC titles. I mean heck, Gus has been to Atlanta twice in 5 years. Obviously missing on guys like Wanya Morris & Andrew Booth sucks. Especially when you see what UGA/BAMA are doing but we are still on pace for one of Gus's best classes & overall the talent level has risen on the Plains.
My concerns are more in game related. I mean even in these losses recently AU hasn't really been blown out all that much. It's been frustrating play calls or lack of in game adjustments or not trusting or developing depth. So while I obviously want us to sign a top 5 class every year, I also feel that how Gus has recruited has been more than good enough to get the job done. We gotta get out of our own way on Saturdays
Posted on 7/30/18 at 10:15 am to LanierSpots
quote:
I think you are putting too much stock in that. We won the National Championship in 2010 and it did nothing for our recruiting.
We’ve seen several quotes from recruits and coaches that disagree with you. Further, we signed a top 5 class in 2011 and a top 6 class in 2014. I don’t know where you’re getting that idea from.
Posted on 7/30/18 at 10:17 am to AUarch79
quote:
Honestly? I'm good with our coaches on the D side but not so much with the O coaches. They try and work hard but they are not getting it done for the most part. Sorry but I don't think Gus is an offensive guru; he's also not a qb coach. Chip Lindsay? I really don't know what to think. What is his real identity as a coach. We run our RB to the ground each yr and it is a big reason we can't recruit elite backs. We miss on elite QBs but thankfully Nix is a legacy. Oline recruiting has been lacking for several yrs. Part of it is poor evaluation of talent, lack of development, and/or having to settle after missing on targets. WR recruiting has actually been a bright spot although not sure that has translated into route running and catching. Is that GM? CL? Position coaches? all? So while I would never call out coaches since this is their livelihood, we have some shortcomings in our O staff. No reason AU can't have the same success as Clemson. They certainly aren't making excuses.
Lord, we’re in the best era of offensive football in my lifetime. We averaged 34 points a game against the country’s 11th toughest schedule. Defense is finally catching up with offense. Gus didn’t make that hire? The unrealistic expectations of some “fans” is ridiculous.
Posted on 7/30/18 at 10:22 am to rbWarEagle
quote:
Further, we signed a top 5 class in 2011 and a top 6 class in 2014
I know you are counting stars but did we?
quote:
We’ve seen several quotes from recruits and coaches that disagree with you.
Any links? Id like to read where a RB prospect said he did not want to come to Auburn because we run them too much. I dont care about competing coaches. What else are they going to say
This post was edited on 7/30/18 at 10:23 am
Posted on 7/30/18 at 10:25 am to LanierSpots
Will post KN's full RB board breakdown in a bit but he put one quick note out on Derrian Brown saying seems like AU is recruiting others. Brown has not talked to AU in awhile. Texas is trending
RB board is very interesting....
Also KN says Bo Nix isn't overly concerned about Pickens. Feels confident he will stick
RB board is very interesting....
Also KN says Bo Nix isn't overly concerned about Pickens. Feels confident he will stick
Posted on 7/30/18 at 10:29 am to LanierSpots
quote:
I know you are counting stars but did we?
I’m looking at the recruiting rankings. Let’s not move the goalposts too far or we’ll get into a different topic.
quote:
Any links? Id like to read where a RB prospect said he did not want to come to Auburn because we run them too much. I dont care about competing coaches. What else are they going to say
Wat? I’m sure TigerPaw knows of some examples of people acknowledging how the negative recruiting against Gus was impacting recruiting. It’s a little goofy to believe it didn’t.
Posted on 7/30/18 at 10:36 am to rbWarEagle
quote:
I’m sure TigerPaw knows of some examples of people acknowledging how the negative recruiting against Gus was impacting recruiting. It’s a little goofy to believe it didn’t.
So you are basing the fact that high ranking RB prospects dont come to Auburn because of running the ball too many times on negative recruiting?
Man I just dont know about that. I really dont
Posted on 7/30/18 at 10:40 am to LanierSpots
I literally never said that. You brought RB recruiting up.
Posted on 7/30/18 at 11:04 am to rbWarEagle
Booth officially commits to Clemson
Posted on 7/30/18 at 11:23 am to AUarch79
quote:
It seems that the majority of people on this board are fine with finishing in the 8-12 range of recruiting each yr.
We would all love to enjoy the success that UA or UGA currently have, but that may not be realistic. Top 10 works for me and is better than our historical average (Chiz and Gus recruited better than we ever have). We need a new football only facility to move up.
GUS: Best recruiting numbers of any previous coach, average finish 9
2018 - 12 (Too Low)
2017 - 9 (Acceptable)
2016 - 9
2015 - 8
2014 - 6 (Good)
2013 - 10 (Not bad considering our 3-9 record)
Chiz: Averaged about 11th, but hurt by TUBS last year, our best recruiting, bring back Troooooooper
2012 - 11
2011 - 5 (Great) NC Bump
2010 - 6 (Good) Trooper/Luper doing work
2009 - 23 (Bring back Tubs and Duck Hunting)
TUBS, averaged about 16th when Bama was on probation
2008 - 21
2007 - 9
2006 - 11
2005 - 19
2004 - 30
2003 - 16
2002 - 16
2001 - 7
2000 - 15
1999 and before, no 247 composite
ETA: Using 247 Composite
This post was edited on 7/30/18 at 11:25 am
Posted on 7/30/18 at 11:25 am to TigerPaw1
quote:
Booth officially commits to Clemson
#ShockTheWorld
Enjoy playing for that smug dick, Booth.
Posted on 7/30/18 at 11:30 am to rbWarEagle
Pickens gonna burn em for 3 TDs in the 2019 national title game 
Page 258 of 497
Latest Auburn News
Popular
Back to top
Follow SECRant for SEC Football News