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re: 2019 Football Recruiting Thread - Auburn Goes 4/7 & Land Brothers
Posted on 5/10/18 at 5:24 pm to LanierSpots
Posted on 5/10/18 at 5:24 pm to LanierSpots
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maybe unstoppable in 2014 is a stretch but it was very good and was not our issue at all. We lost a lot that year but still managed to put up over 600 yards on the best defense we faced
I think there are a lot of parallels between 2014 offense & 2017 honestly. Both had some huge moments against big time defenses. Both also put out some duds. Difference is 2017 was backed by a great defense
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Posted on 5/10/18 at 5:35 pm to TigerPaw1
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I think there are a lot of parallels between 2014 offense & 2017 honestly. Both had some huge moments against big time defenses. Both also put out some duds. Difference is 2017 was backed by a great defense
If you put the 2014 offense on last years defense, there is no way we lose to LSU, Clemson or UCF. I cant say about the UGA SEC Championship game but the others, we win
Posted on 5/10/18 at 5:39 pm to TigerPaw1
As for QB debate, obviously Cam Newton is the gold standard. A freak athlete who is also an outstanding passer. Being able to run the ball is an obvious benefit at QB spot that I would love to have but finding true dual threat QBs isn't as easy as people think. We've seen it already in recruiting guys like Kiehl Frazier & Woody Barrett. Go get best talent you can sign at QB. If the choice comes down to 2 guys & one can also run then take that one but I don't think should limit recruiting to just dual threat guys
Agree though that Gus has to be able to establish the run. Doesn't need a running QB to do that. Does need a strong OL tho which is why we need to sign some damn offensive tackles
Agree though that Gus has to be able to establish the run. Doesn't need a running QB to do that. Does need a strong OL tho which is why we need to sign some damn offensive tackles
Posted on 5/10/18 at 5:41 pm to LanierSpots
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If you put the 2014 offense on last years defense, there is no way we lose to LSU, Clemson or UCF. I cant say about the UGA SEC Championship game but the others, we win
Not sure on Clemson but agree on the other 2
2014 offense was better than 2017. Won't argue different. 2017 offense was pretty damn good tho when KJ was healthy
Posted on 5/10/18 at 5:43 pm to TigerPaw1
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Agree though that Gus has to be able to establish the run. Doesn't need a running QB to do that. Does need a strong OL tho which is why we need to sign some damn offensive tackles
My point with the offense we need with Gus is that he needs a very simple offense. Its what he does good. Runs a few plays with some options off of it. When you give him the keys to what we are doing now, you will get shite like 60 yard bombs on every pass play and whirlybirds. Just let him run the ball with the QB and two backs and stick to that. ITs what he is good at.
No matter if that QB is a speed guy or a power guy. And if he sticks to that, we can recruit QBs that will fit. Not one per year but two or so and we will eventually find what we need. I think Malik Willis could do it if he had the guys around him but he will probably never get the chance.
Posted on 5/10/18 at 5:45 pm to TigerPaw1
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Not sure on Clemson
Come on man. We almost won with 11 sacks. No way Nick Marshall would have been sacked 11 times
Posted on 5/10/18 at 5:46 pm to LanierSpots
Fair enough
Posted on 5/10/18 at 7:20 pm to LanierSpots
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But moving forward, Id really like to see us get back to what we were doing the years we were dominate
I for one am excited about Stidham, Nix, and the new pro style guy we offered. It wasn't long ago we were offering guys like Torrance Gibson and qb that was a high school safety from Florence.
Posted on 5/10/18 at 9:46 pm to RockyMtnTigerWDE
quote:Sounds like the opposite of Randy-isms.
etting too stoked about any Auburn player can cause aneurysms.
Couldn't pass it up.
Posted on 5/10/18 at 9:50 pm to LanierSpots
quote:Unfortunately those types of duals who can run like crazy & pass at a 60+ % clip in college don't come around too often.
he is probably the right guy for us right now. I agree. But moving forward, Id really like to see us get back to what we were doing the years we were dominate
Posted on 5/10/18 at 9:55 pm to TigerPaw1
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As for QB debate, obviously Cam Newton is the gold standard. A freak athlete who is also an outstanding passer. Being able to run the ball is an obvious benefit at QB spot that I would love to have but finding true dual threat QBs isn't as easy as people think. We've seen it already in recruiting guys like Kiehl Frazier & Woody Barrett.
This post was edited on 5/10/18 at 9:57 pm
Posted on 5/10/18 at 9:58 pm to ellitor
People that think we need a Nick Marshall to win big are crazy
Posted on 5/10/18 at 10:00 pm to LanierSpots
quote:It's hard to win any game no matter the talent level on the team when the HC changes the entire offensive game plan the day before the game like Gus did versus Clemson. We still would have lost.
Come on man. We almost won with 11 sacks. No way Nick Marshall would have been sacked 11 times
Posted on 5/10/18 at 10:01 pm to AUtigR24
quote:I don't remember this.
offering...qb that was a high school safety from Florence.
Posted on 5/10/18 at 10:03 pm to ellitor
Autigr is wrong 95% of the time so just don’t listen to him
Posted on 5/11/18 at 5:59 am to blzr
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People that think we need a Nick Marshall to win big are crazy
I mean you people say this but our history with Gus shows otherwise.
Posted on 5/11/18 at 6:13 am to RandySavage
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I mean you people say this but our history with Gus shows otherwise.
Its almost comical to watch some of these guys squirm. It is one of the most obvious things ever and some are still waiting for us to be dominant with a pro style QB
Would you imagine how good the 2010, 2013 and 2014 teams would have been if they would have had even a decent defense like we have now
Posted on 5/11/18 at 6:36 am to LanierSpots
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Its almost comical to watch some of these guys squirm. It is one of the most obvious things ever and some are still waiting for us to be dominant with a pro style QB
What did you think think about the Eagles Super Bowl offense? Foles can’t run but he made a fool out of the Patriots with the RPO and shortpasses. It seems that Gus wants to get there, but can’t get there.
Posted on 5/11/18 at 6:42 am to jangalang
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What did you think think about the Eagles Super Bowl offense? Foles can’t run but he made a fool out of the Patriots with the RPO and shortpasses. It seems that Gus wants to get there, but can’t get there.
To be honest, I didnt watch it and dont pay a lot of attention to the NFL.
But you just dont mess with what works. And you do what you are good at. Gus is good at offense with a running QB. Everybody sees it. Just a few key pieces and the offense works. It is also easier to develop than what we are doing now.
Posted on 5/11/18 at 6:59 am to LanierSpots
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But you just dont mess with what works. And you do what you are good at. Gus is good at offense with a running QB
His offense has definitely been more successful with a DT quarterback. He’s tried pretty hard to land some elite DT quarterbacks that could fit his offense to a T. He went after Fields and Lowell Narcisse and almost landed one of those. He’s also went after some shitty QBs like JF3. The Florence QB that autgr is talking about, Kendrick Doss, I don’t know if he had an offer but he’s another example of reaching for a DT QB. I hate to say it, but nothing about your guy, Malik, screams potential to me either. He’s got the speed but doesn’t have the feet or the arm of NM. The guy to watch is Gatewood. As a powerful QB, he’s got the moves like Jagger and he can probably do well in a simplified offense.
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