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re: 2018 Football Recruiting Thread -- Final OP Update Edition

Posted on 2/6/18 at 2:44 pm to
Posted by ellitor
Member since Sep 2012
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Posted on 2/6/18 at 2:44 pm to
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So we are 3 shy of the old record? Frick this class.
I don't know how I was so far off but I was. My OP has been fixed. Reality is 16 or better in any year is damn good.
Posted by ellitor
Member since Sep 2012
14285 posts
Posted on 2/6/18 at 2:47 pm to
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Not true
Yes true numb nuts. We started every one of those OVs behind another team.

This is precisely why I didn't want to bring facts to your meltdown
Posted by TigerPaw1
Chattanooga, TN
Member since Apr 2011
16979 posts
Posted on 2/6/18 at 2:48 pm to
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RandySavage

You thought we were the leader for Langham, Walker & Tannor heading into their OVs?

I could maybe give you Tannor but we were trailing for sure on Langham & Walker
Posted by Rhino5
Atlanta
Member since Nov 2014
30772 posts
Posted on 2/6/18 at 2:51 pm to
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Disagree. Just because you have a bunch of 4*s doesn't necessarily make a good class

LOL, go to talk to the other schools in the conference not named UGA and Bama.

We still have one more day, but OL recruiting is sort of disappointing. But I'm reminded that Grimes is back and we should see an improved offensive line next year. We have a lot of athletes at the skill positions and I'm still rolling the dice on Langham.
Posted by metafour
Member since Feb 2007
4265 posts
Posted on 2/6/18 at 2:52 pm to
Confidence on Tannor was at like 80% before we magically learned that he wasn't coming here, hence all the CB picks that were flooding our way. Now you want to pretend like we were actually "way behind" the whole time? You are playing revisionist history. The staff pulled his offer because they thought they had him, they don't pull offers like that out of nowhere for no reason.
Posted by RandySavage
9 Time Natty Winner
Member since May 2012
34615 posts
Posted on 2/6/18 at 2:58 pm to
Not to some of those teams listed that it looks like they will sign with. So somebody closed from further back than us and passed us.

For example, nobody was talking about Langham signing with Florida when he was visiting. It was all "visit is great don't know if it will be enough to catch bama", "staff feels if we get him on campus we will get him to sign"... Now all the sudden he's trending Florida.
This post was edited on 2/6/18 at 3:02 pm
Posted by AUarch79
Atlanta
Member since Oct 2013
680 posts
Posted on 2/6/18 at 2:59 pm to
Winning is directly related to recruiting. Clemson is very dimilar to AU and compare their jugernaut of a program. No reason not to aspire to be that level of program and not be honest when we fail. This class is “good” not great. We missed on our top targets at qb (fields), rb (see UGA), db, lb, and Oline. Being late to offer is something we have heard alot. I’m no insider but until we can do an honest assessment and stop the positive spin, we will not do better. When the quality of play goes down, when we only have one rb that tge cosches play, our line fails to protect our qb, we will rrsslize the impact of sibpar recruiting.
Posted by TigerPaw1
Chattanooga, TN
Member since Apr 2011
16979 posts
Posted on 2/6/18 at 3:01 pm to
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or example, nobody was talking about Langham signing with Florida when he was visiting. It was all "visit is great don't know if it will be enough to catch bama"... Now all the sudden he's trending Florida.


FWIW Bama insiders were saying before AU's OV that UF was the bigger threat. I will admit I thought it was bullshite but I guess not

Posted by RandySavage
9 Time Natty Winner
Member since May 2012
34615 posts
Posted on 2/6/18 at 3:03 pm to
We really dicked up this last month of recruiting, that's a fact. Don't know why some of you get so upset at that being pointed out.
Posted by Aubie Spr96
lolwut?
Member since Dec 2009
43844 posts
Posted on 2/6/18 at 3:09 pm to
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Just because you have a bunch of 4*s doesn't necessarily make a good class.


Holy frick......


Other than missing on the OL (which is understandable given that the OL coach left), I'm not sure what there is to bitch about? Auburn will always be in that top 8-15 recruiting class ranking. We can win with those recruits.
Posted by TigerPaw1
Chattanooga, TN
Member since Apr 2011
16979 posts
Posted on 2/6/18 at 3:10 pm to
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Winning is directly related to recruiting.

Completely agree

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Clemson is very dimilar to AU and compare their jugernaut of a program

Except they play in a much easier conference. They are 1-2 vs Bama just like we are over the past 3 years. They didn't look supremely more talented than us past 2 years, we just sucked offensively (so did they)

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No reason not to aspire to be that level of program and not be honest when we fail.

I don't think anyone here is saying we shouldn't aspire to win championships. We are all pissed about how season ended

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This class is “good” not great.

I really like this class. Sucks we whiffed at OT but overall I am happy with the talent we are bringing in

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We missed on our top targets at qb (fields), rb (see UGA), db, lb, and Oline.

Fields only popped up on the radar until this past summer. We would not have pursued another QB until the mass QB exodus. I agree we probably should have gone after Fields earlier but he was an unknown when we landed Gatewood. We beat Bama out for top RB target. We whiffed at CB but hit on our top safety targets including stealing from Monday from Clemson. Michael Harris & Zakoby McClain were top targets at LB but we did miss on Channing Tindall/Quay Walker but not sure overall how that's a bad class. OL sucks, we all agree

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Being late to offer is something we have heard alot.

Who outside of Langham have we been late to offer that you think we should have gotten in earlier on?

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I’m no insider but until we can do an honest assessment and stop the positive spin, we will not do better.

Hate to bust your bubble but nothing we do on this message board has an affect. FWIW I don't mind reasonable discussion on class. Blind homerism & blind melting are equally annoying. This class has holes but it also has some big wins

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When the quality of play goes down, when we only have one rb that tge cosches play, our line fails to protect our qb, we will rrsslize the impact of sibpar recruiting.

Did you have seizure writing this?

Of course recruiting mattesr. Part of reason AU blew the frick out of a bunch of teams this year is Gus has raised the talent bar at AU. Obviously frustrated by watching what both UGA & BAMA are doing but it's disingenuous to not also recognizes some of the successes in this class. We are having a disappointing finish but that doesn't null out the rest of the class which is strong
Posted by TigerPaw1
Chattanooga, TN
Member since Apr 2011
16979 posts
Posted on 2/6/18 at 3:12 pm to
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We really dicked up this last month of recruiting, that's a fact. Don't know why some of you get so upset at that being pointed out.

Oh I am pissed at our closing. Just disagree with those that think this class sucks or that we somehow went from favorites for everybody only to lose out. We were trailing on all these guys. I thought we would push ahead after OVs on somebody but that doesn't appear to be the case which sucks
Posted by ellitor
Member since Sep 2012
14285 posts
Posted on 2/6/18 at 3:12 pm to
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Confidence on Tannor was at like 80% before we magically learned that he wasn't coming here, hence all the CB picks that were flooding our way. Now you want to pretend like we were actually "way behind" the whole time?
You are drastically misrepresenting what I said to fits your narative. Boy! That's something new & refreshing for you. I never said "way behind". I just said behind. Never said nor implied how far behind. Yes we started that OV behind. We didn't even know if we would take him at the time for Pete's sake. None of the picks came before the OV, which is what we are discussing.
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You are playing revisionist history.
No. You are just showing a severe lack of reading comprehension. Something that should not be a problem w/ someone of your intelligence.
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The staff pulled his offer because they thought they had him, they don't pull offers like that out of nowhere for no reason.
Not even remotely relevant to the discussion we are having right now.
This post was edited on 2/6/18 at 5:10 pm
Posted by AUtigerNOLA
New Orleans, LA
Member since Apr 2011
17213 posts
Posted on 2/6/18 at 3:15 pm to
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Don't know why some of you get so upset




You're the only one getting your panties in a wad here. Well maybe a few others.
Posted by ellitor
Member since Sep 2012
14285 posts
Posted on 2/6/18 at 3:16 pm to
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We really dicked up this last month of recruiting, that's a fact. Don't know why some of you get so upset at that being pointed out.
There is no disputing there have been some misses but some of your statement you have made to support this thesis is way off base wrong. That was our only point of contention.
Posted by WareagleKK
Milton, GA (ur welcome for Lawson)
Member since May 2012
2749 posts
Posted on 2/6/18 at 3:30 pm to
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Disagree. Just because you have a bunch of 4*s doesn't necessarily make a good class. Having a good class is a combination of signing great players and meeting needs. We signed a lot of great players, but we totally missed out on a lot of NEEDS of this class. IMO - we just signed a bunch of 4* guys but the fact that we have such gaping holes does not necessarily mean we have a good class.



False. We missed ONE need. Singular. uno.
Posted by Rhino5
Atlanta
Member since Nov 2014
30772 posts
Posted on 2/6/18 at 3:52 pm to
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You're the only one getting your panties in a wad here. Well maybe a few others.

The bammer recruiting thread is pretty melty. You'd think they're signing 3*. I'd love to get Langham and see Walker flip somewhere, preferably Tennesse, but I think he's all UGA.
Posted by jangalang
Member since Dec 2014
49591 posts
Posted on 2/6/18 at 3:56 pm to
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False. We missed ONE need. Singular. uno.

We are only as good as our weakest link.
Posted by AuburnCPA
Member since May 2008
18868 posts
Posted on 2/6/18 at 3:57 pm to
just gotta get use to head scratchers with Gus whether it is playcalling, recruiting, personnel, etc.
Posted by jangalang
Member since Dec 2014
49591 posts
Posted on 2/6/18 at 4:06 pm to
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just gotta get use to head scratchers with Gus whether it is playcalling, recruiting, personnel, etc.

Some of it is just Gus needs to learn how to coach and build a roster for long term success. Some have made a good point of Gus recruiting heavy one position at a time instead of scattering the recruits for more well rounded classes.
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