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re: 2018 Football Recruiting Thread -- Final OP Update Edition
Posted on 8/9/17 at 8:16 am to TigerPaw1
Posted on 8/9/17 at 8:16 am to TigerPaw1
KN has put up 2 insiders recently. Here's summary of both
- KN says after talking with 4* OG Trey Hill and those close to him, it really does seem like Hill is still very open despite the assumption UGA is the team to beat. AU, CLEM, FSU & LSU are all very much in the race. He's visited AU more than any other school (10 times) and on two trips brought his whole family along. Our family pitch plays well with him and he thinks he could get on the field early. His big thing though is he wants to play at a winning school so how teams do this fall will have a big affect. Gus Malzahn is apparently very involved in Hill's recruitment. Source told KN that this one will go down to the wire
- Despite being committed to Bama, 4* LB Quay Walker is still being recruited hard by AU, UGA, FSU & others. Multiple sources seem to think he won't stick to his Bama commit and he's listening to other schools right now. FSU appears to have the most confidence right now after a recent visit. However, Walker is prone to get "visit highs" so being that the Noles were his most recent visit that has a lot to do with why they are trending. Apparently for AU having Bryant on the team is a big positive as the two are close. Travis Williams really likes Walker & would love to flip him. AU has work to do but are very much in the race
- 3* ATH/DB Jammie Robinson is teammates with Walker and likes AU. Has visited a bunch tagging along with Bryant and Walker. Right now though the Gamecocks lead as Travaris Robinson is recruiting him hard. Robinson wants to develop a better relationship with Greg Brown and plans on coming for some games this fall
- 4* LB Otis Reese is committed to Michigan and doesn't look like AU will be much of a factor. UGA could be a team to watch tho
- Name to track is 3* OG Griffin McDowell. He's currently committed to State but is talking some with AU. Camped this summer and got some good feedback. Looks like a backup plan right now but could move up the board with strong senior year
- AU is really liking their chances with 4* WR Seth Williams. Sounds like he has really clicked with Kodi Burns and sees chance to get on field early at AU. Also Bama is starting to fill up at WR as well. As of now, AU likes where they stand
- Tigers continue to pursue Clemson commit 4* CB Kyler McMichael and apparently he's listening. Some sources say AU is a much bigger threat than people realize. McMichael is committed to play safety at Clemson but might wanna play CB which is where AU is recruiting him. Lots of staff members are working on this recruitment as he is a top priority. UGA is a team to watch as well
- On the other hand, Clemson is still hard after Quindarious Monday who was expected to commit to them this past fall. It would be not surprised if he visited Clemson this fall.
- AU's staff was a bit surprised by Dameon Pierce's commitment to UF. Not that he chose the Gators but more the timing. It was thought his recruitment would go on for awhile. AU will still pursue him despite his UF commitment
- Less than 1% chance 4* WR Kearis Jackson commits to AU. All Dawg
- KN says after talking with 4* OG Trey Hill and those close to him, it really does seem like Hill is still very open despite the assumption UGA is the team to beat. AU, CLEM, FSU & LSU are all very much in the race. He's visited AU more than any other school (10 times) and on two trips brought his whole family along. Our family pitch plays well with him and he thinks he could get on the field early. His big thing though is he wants to play at a winning school so how teams do this fall will have a big affect. Gus Malzahn is apparently very involved in Hill's recruitment. Source told KN that this one will go down to the wire
- Despite being committed to Bama, 4* LB Quay Walker is still being recruited hard by AU, UGA, FSU & others. Multiple sources seem to think he won't stick to his Bama commit and he's listening to other schools right now. FSU appears to have the most confidence right now after a recent visit. However, Walker is prone to get "visit highs" so being that the Noles were his most recent visit that has a lot to do with why they are trending. Apparently for AU having Bryant on the team is a big positive as the two are close. Travis Williams really likes Walker & would love to flip him. AU has work to do but are very much in the race
- 3* ATH/DB Jammie Robinson is teammates with Walker and likes AU. Has visited a bunch tagging along with Bryant and Walker. Right now though the Gamecocks lead as Travaris Robinson is recruiting him hard. Robinson wants to develop a better relationship with Greg Brown and plans on coming for some games this fall
- 4* LB Otis Reese is committed to Michigan and doesn't look like AU will be much of a factor. UGA could be a team to watch tho
- Name to track is 3* OG Griffin McDowell. He's currently committed to State but is talking some with AU. Camped this summer and got some good feedback. Looks like a backup plan right now but could move up the board with strong senior year
- AU is really liking their chances with 4* WR Seth Williams. Sounds like he has really clicked with Kodi Burns and sees chance to get on field early at AU. Also Bama is starting to fill up at WR as well. As of now, AU likes where they stand
- Tigers continue to pursue Clemson commit 4* CB Kyler McMichael and apparently he's listening. Some sources say AU is a much bigger threat than people realize. McMichael is committed to play safety at Clemson but might wanna play CB which is where AU is recruiting him. Lots of staff members are working on this recruitment as he is a top priority. UGA is a team to watch as well
- On the other hand, Clemson is still hard after Quindarious Monday who was expected to commit to them this past fall. It would be not surprised if he visited Clemson this fall.
- AU's staff was a bit surprised by Dameon Pierce's commitment to UF. Not that he chose the Gators but more the timing. It was thought his recruitment would go on for awhile. AU will still pursue him despite his UF commitment
- Less than 1% chance 4* WR Kearis Jackson commits to AU. All Dawg
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Posted on 8/9/17 at 8:43 am to TigerPaw1
quote:Doubt it. He's a space back like Shivers-Me-Timbers. We need a RB in the class that can do work between the tackles.
Wonder if we keep striking out at RB if we circle back and try to flip Provens
Posted on 8/9/17 at 10:44 am to ellitor
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Yeah. Even I have to admit AU should not lose a RB battle against UF right now for a Georgia boy like Pierce.
Not like this is a new thing. But maybe a few of you can admit it now. We are and have been really missing at RB for a while
But whatever. We got guys right
Posted on 8/9/17 at 11:02 am to LanierSpots
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Not like this is a new thing. But maybe a few of you can admit it now. We are and have been really missing at RB for a while
But whatever. We got guys right
Ya no doubt RB has been what's holding us back past couple of years...
Posted on 8/9/17 at 11:05 am to LanierSpots
It is a head scratcher, but the highest ranked guys we get never pan out.
We seem to be better off with the Pettway, Mason, CAP type guys of late.
I know that is just a statement on the kids more so than AU, but I am glad we have Horton who is capable of getting the most out of kids willing to work.
We seem to be better off with the Pettway, Mason, CAP type guys of late.
I know that is just a statement on the kids more so than AU, but I am glad we have Horton who is capable of getting the most out of kids willing to work.
Posted on 8/9/17 at 11:11 am to LanierSpots
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We are and have been really missing at RB for a while
Eh, not really. Now, if you want to talk about what they have done once they got on campus, then sure, I'll listen.
2017 4* Devan Barrett
2017 4* Alaric Williams (went to Juco)
2016 4* Kam Martin
2016 4* Malik Miller
2015 4* Kerryon Johnson
2015 5* Jovon Robinson
2014 3* Kam Pettway
2014 5* Roc Thomas
Our problem has been more of what has happened to them once they got on campus. This year we are definitely striking out, don't get me wrong. Overall though, this has not been a trend for a while as you said.
Posted on 8/9/17 at 11:17 am to GoCrazyAuburn
The only guy on that entire list that is a traditional RB is Robinson and Barrett. The others are all basically fullbacks or APBs.
The fact they all mostly produce is more a testament to our system than anything else. It's pretty easy to see that guys like CAP, Barber, and even to some degree Pettway lack the instincts, speed, and moves of some true elite RBs.
It would be nice to see what one of those guys could do in this offense.
The fact they all mostly produce is more a testament to our system than anything else. It's pretty easy to see that guys like CAP, Barber, and even to some degree Pettway lack the instincts, speed, and moves of some true elite RBs.
It would be nice to see what one of those guys could do in this offense.
Posted on 8/9/17 at 11:22 am to RandySavage
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The others are all basically fullbacks or APBs
2017 4* Devan Barrett RB
2017 4* Alaric Williams (went to Juco) APB
2016 4* Kam Martin APB
2016 4* Malik Miller RB
2015 4* Kerryon Johnson APB
2015 5* Jovon Robinson RB
2014 3* Kam Pettway FB
2014 5* Roc Thomas RB
4/8 RB
3/8 APB
1/8 FB
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CAP, Barber, and even to some degree Pettway lack the instincts, speed, and moves of some true elite RBs.
Running backs have different skill sets? No way. 3* running backs may not be as physically gifted as 5* but still beat them out?
This post was edited on 8/9/17 at 11:23 am
Posted on 8/9/17 at 11:27 am to GoCrazyAuburn
Which 4 of those guys do you have a true running backs?
You can be an a-hole but you know it's true. Jovon, the only true RB on the list besides True Freshman Barrett, would have easily been our starter last year had he not gotten kicked off the team.
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Running backs have different skill sets? No way. 3* running backs may not be as physically gifted as 5* but still beat them out?
You can be an a-hole but you know it's true. Jovon, the only true RB on the list besides True Freshman Barrett, would have easily been our starter last year had he not gotten kicked off the team.
Posted on 8/9/17 at 11:31 am to RandySavage
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Which 4 of those guys do you have a true running backs?
Listed them above. If you don't think Roc or Malik are "traditional" RBs, then there is no point continuing this discussion.
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You can be an a-hole but you know it's true. Jovon, the only true RB on the list besides True Freshman Barrett, would have easily been our starter last year had he not gotten kicked off the team
Okay? What does that have to do with anything? You are making my point about us not doing anything with the talent when it gets on campus, not our ability to recruit RBs.
Posted on 8/9/17 at 1:06 pm to GoCrazyAuburn
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You are making my point about us not doing anything with the talent when it gets on campus
I agree with that but when you list a bunch of guys who were never true running backs it does kind of hold water that we've had a hard time recruiting that position.
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If you don't think Roc or Malik are "traditional" RBs, then there is no point continuing this discussion
Alright, carry on. Not sure how you can watch either of them play and think they are true legit running backs but I guess we just have differing viewpoints.
Posted on 8/9/17 at 1:30 pm to RandySavage
You're just going to have to define what a "true rb" is because right now, your argument doesn't make a whole lot of sense to me if you think Barrett is one but Roc was not. They had very similar builds and skill sets coming out of HS. If a 5* composite RB is not a "true rb", then we are just living on different planets.
Posted on 8/9/17 at 1:32 pm to LanierSpots
quote:Yet we still produce really well in the run game overall so I'm not really worried about it. If a kid can produce between the tackles we can plug & play & produce well. Key is having depth on dudes that can run between the tackles.
Not like this is a new thing. But maybe a few of you can admit it now. We are and have been really missing at RB for a while
But whatever. We got guys right
Posted on 8/9/17 at 1:55 pm to ellitor
Hank South of Bama 247 just CB'd Seth Williams to AU 
Posted on 8/9/17 at 2:39 pm to GoCrazyAuburn
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You are making my point about us not doing anything with the talent when it gets on campus, not our ability to recruit RBs.
Why are these mutually exclusive ideas? Perhaps the RBs we recruit are not very talented, thus they can't do anything when they get here. Perhaps it is a symptom of poor scouting.
Posted on 8/9/17 at 2:42 pm to CaptainBrannigan
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Why are these mutually exclusive ideas? Perhaps the RBs we recruit are not very talented, thus they can't do anything when they get here. Perhaps it is a symptom of poor scouting.
Our 5* RB's aren't talented? That's a bold claim.
We've had issues with attitudes for sure, the talent not being there? Not so much.
Still does not make the point that we've been struggling to recruit top RB's "for a while now" as was claimed.
ETA: However, the flipside of your point would be that since our most productive backs have been lower rated guys (Pettway, Mason, CAP, Barber), then wouldn't our coaches be doing a good job scouting?
This post was edited on 8/9/17 at 2:45 pm
Posted on 8/9/17 at 3:56 pm to TigerPaw1
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Hank South of Bama 247 just CB'd Seth Williams to AU
WR class about to be sick paw
Posted on 8/9/17 at 4:02 pm to RandySavage
I think what Randy is trying to say is we have trouble landing the "Najee Harris" Bo Scarbrough" "Nick Chubb" type that can carry the ball 30+ times a game but still have speed.
With us it seems we either have a between the tackles guy or a speed guy.
The only guy that we had that could do both was Jovon.
But like others said we're doing fine without that type back so i'm not complaining.
With us it seems we either have a between the tackles guy or a speed guy.
The only guy that we had that could do both was Jovon.
But like others said we're doing fine without that type back so i'm not complaining.
Posted on 8/9/17 at 4:05 pm to AUtigR24
Because there are so many of those that come around
If that is the argument, then I'll concede, yes we've done a poor job recruiting those very few special RB's. I just don't get that as his argument if he is listing Barrett in that mold.
If that is the argument, then I'll concede, yes we've done a poor job recruiting those very few special RB's. I just don't get that as his argument if he is listing Barrett in that mold.
This post was edited on 8/9/17 at 4:07 pm
Posted on 8/9/17 at 4:14 pm to RandySavage
quote:what the hell does that even mean anymore?
true running backs?
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