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re: 2018 Football Recruiting Thread -- Final OP Update Edition

Posted on 7/10/17 at 10:08 am to
Posted by TigerPaw1
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Posted on 7/10/17 at 10:08 am to
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One other important visitor to note this week

The Fields-Jackson visit will be the talk of the town this week, but they won’t be the only big visitors. We do know of at least one other significant visit that could wind up as make or break for Auburn’s chances with a prospect.

Quindarious Monday will be back on the Plains on Tuesday for what is expected to be his final visit before a commitment decision.

The 4-star safety from Carver (Ga.) once said Auburn was his clear leader. Monday has stepped off that notion, but he has never stated publicly that another program has surpassed Auburn. Some, however, believe Clemson — his childhood favorite — emerged as the favorite once he received that offer.


It’s possible, but don’t count out Auburn with one visit left in place. He also has trips planned to Georgia and Clemson, so the Tigers won’t get the only shot. But with Auburn once called Monday’s leader, don’t rule out the Tigers having a big-time visit with him to convince him to join the fold

Wolk seems a little more optimistic than KN on Monday. FWIW I am gonna be real salty when he commits to Clemson. My two favorite DBs in this are Jalyn Armour-Davis and Quindarious Monday. In February thought we would get both. Now we probably get neither
Posted by TigerPaw1
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Posted on 7/10/17 at 10:13 am to
Also interesting CB pick today. Clemson insider CB'd Trey Hill to FSU
Posted by Rhymenoceros
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Posted on 7/10/17 at 12:28 pm to
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“This week, I am going to Auburn with Justin on the 13th and throw in the stadium,” Jackson told Mansell. This will be Jackson’s fourth trip to Auburn in 2017.


Obviously, this is something that happens all the time, but how does gathering recruits in a stadium like this (without it being an official camp) not violate the "game-type" situation rules? Didn't UGA get in trouble a few years back for just superimposing a graphic of a recruit into a game-like situation?
Posted by ellitor
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Posted on 7/10/17 at 1:07 pm to
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how does gathering recruits in a stadium like this (without it being an official camp) not violate the "game-type" situation rules?
It will be an empty stadium. Doesn't resemble a game type simulation at all.
Posted by TigerPaw1
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Posted on 7/10/17 at 1:51 pm to
Justin Fields is 247's new #1 overall player

Updated Top247 for 2018 includes new No. 1 player (247)
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Justin Fields is the new No. 1 player in the class of 2018. He headlines a wholesale rankings update that follows The Opening Finals and an exhaustive camp and 7on7 circuit that is finally starting to wind down in preparation for the season. While The Opening Finals event was the primary driver for this update, all corrections and re-evaluations were on the table for what is likely our last major shakeup for the class of 2018 before pads are donned.

The internal debate about No. 1 was unique. In discussions, there was near unanimous agreement that Fields, a quarterback from Kennesaw (Ga.) Harrison High School, looks like the best player in this class. The question was more specifically was 'has he earned No. 1?'

Put another way, is it right that Fields, after a camp performance — a camp season — with no pads and no real football snaps, overtake a quarterback in Trevor Lawrence with 10,000 career passing yards, two state championships and one career loss as a starter? Lawrence is 6-foot-6 with a huge arm, all of the physical tools and is the most accomplished active high school quarterback in the country. And now he's lost the pole position after a camp circuit?

Yes. Here is why.

Fields looked like the best player in the country this spring and summer. He certainly looked like the best quarterback. In fact it wasn't close. That's not a commentary on the other quarterbacks. We actually think this is a strong crop of arms. It's a commentary on Fields. He's just that good.

As good as Fields has been this offseason, he hasn't even been able to showcase his speed (4.51 40 yard dash) and strength (6-3, 221 pounds). He's also been moonlighting on the baseball field for much of the offseason with his high school team so what we've seen will only get better in the future when he's focused strictly on football and will only be tougher to defend when his legs are a factor.


But this No. 1 ranking isn't just about what he's done in camps. Let's talk about what he's done in pads and compare it to what Lawrence has done.

Lawrence has led Cartersville to a 30-0 record the past two seasons. His only career loss as a starter came in the state semifnals as a sophomore. As a junior, Lawrence threw for 3,900 yards in Georgia 4A football.

Fields, against 6A competition in Georgia, threw for 2,770 yards but also rushed for 1,176. He doesn't have quite the immaculate win-loss record of Lawrence but neither does the team he inherited.

As a sophomore Fields started his team's first 7 games, leading Harrison to a 5-2 record. He missed the last three with injury and the team went 0-3. As a senior, Fields led Harrison to its first 10-win season since 2002 and its first playoff win since 2008.


Lawrence's Cartersville team had gone 26-2 in the two seasons preceding his arrival.

These are two great quarterbacks but don't call Fields a camp guy. He has already transformed his high school team and he's got every No. 1 trait we could ask for.

Three-man race for No. 1

The focus of the race for No. 1 has justifiably been centered around the quarterback position but don't leave out Clemson defensive end commit Xavier Thomas. This is effectively a three-man race for the No. 1 spot heading into the season and Thomas has put himself right in the hunt.

We've seen some amazing defensive linemen at The Opening Finals in recent years. Just two years ago we saw a D-line roster that included Ed Oliver, Dexter Lawrence and Rashan Gary, all future first-round picks. Thomas would have fit right in with that group. His strength and edge power, his maturity and competitiveness are No. 1 worthy and in a different year he'd be sitting comfortably at the top of the rankings. Playing at IMG Academy this fall, Thomas will have every opportunity to prove that himself.

The new five-stars

Patrick Surtain Jr. – We've yet to encounter a setting in which Surtain didn't dominate. He's the best big corner in a class full of big corners and he's now ranked No. 5 in the country.

Justin Shorter – Shorter needs to cut out the concentration drops but the Penn State commit is the most physically talented wide receiver in this class and he dominated The Opening like he should with those traits. For that he's now the top ranked wide receiver and No. 7 nationally.

Jordyn Adams – 247Sports is going hard against the grain of the rest of the industry with Adams' ranking as the No. 9 player in the country but we're not even that nervous about the move. The UNC commit is so fluid, so smooth, so polished as a receiver and yet he doesn't even play the position full-time.

Jamaree Salyer – Though he plays a non-premium position at offensive guard, there's still usually one or two guards that get drafted in the first round and Salyer is without question the top guard in this class and in our opinion he's the clear top offensive lineman regardless of position. He's now ranked No. 10 overall.

Jeremy Ruckert – Ruckert's dominating performance at The Opening was on par with some of the other top tight end efforts we've seen in the history of the event. At 6-foot-6, he's got unique size, he's athletic, his film pops and he's a young senior at only 17 years old. Ruckert is now ranked No. 11.

Talanoa Hufanga – Hufanga is a three-sport athlete that flashed at The Opening but his showing there was more of a cross-check of what we've seen on film. That film is five-star worthy and his in-person performance was good enough to verify that. We love his competitive demeanor and athleticism.

Just missed

- OT Jackson Carman and wide receivers Kamryn Babb and Terrace Marshall are all on the cusp of five-star status. Carman's polish has moved him up to the top offensive tackle spot and he's shown the ability to line up at offensive guard, too. Babb and Marshall round out a phenomenal wide receiver group and both are likely to land that fifth star with a good senior season.

Posted by TigerPaw1
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Posted on 7/10/17 at 2:04 pm to
AU targets/commits now. When I say + that means they moved up that many slots, - means they fell. Yes I know that's not how math works but deal with it

#1 - 5* QB Justin Fields (+1)
#22 - 4* LB Channing Tindall (+23)
#25 - 4* DE Azeez Ojulari (+155)
#52 - 4* OT William Barnes (+9)
#53 - 4* WR Jacob Copeland (-11)
#62 - 4* Trey Hill (-9) --> bit surprised he fell some
#64 - 4* TE Luke Ford (+67)
#68 - 4* RB Harold Joiner (-12)
#69 - 4* RB James Cook (-12)
#76 - 4* LB JJ Peterson (-12)
#87 - 4* WR Matthew Hill (-8)

Master Teague finally got the bump he deserved. Went up 152 spots to #50

Will post more later when I have the time but that's the top 100. You will notice Justyn Ross is missing. He fell 91 spots to #138. That means guess whose #1 in the state? Harold Freaking Joiner
Posted by RandySavage
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Posted on 7/10/17 at 2:19 pm to
0 AU commits in the top247 :(

Any idea on Ross? I thought he was challenging for a 5th star.
Posted by TigerPaw1
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Member since Apr 2011
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Posted on 7/10/17 at 2:23 pm to
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0 AU commits in the top247 :(

Hopefully Matthew Hill changes that soon

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Any idea on Ross? I thought he was challenging for a 5th star.


Wasn't great at the Opening. Part of that was Trevor Lawrence's struggles. I think he plunged too far personally and wouldn't be shocked if he rose back into the top 100 after senior year

Also that drop makes it clear he's an AU lock right guys?
Posted by TigerPaw1
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Posted on 7/10/17 at 2:24 pm to
Also is there any doubt T-WILL is an elite talent evaluator as well. Was one of the first to offer Channing Tindall who has gone from unranked top inside the top 30. Would love to beat Muschamp out for him
Posted by smuphy72
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Posted on 7/10/17 at 2:25 pm to
They just don't seem to like him as much at 247. I can't figure it out.
Posted by RandySavage
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Posted on 7/10/17 at 2:28 pm to
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Hopefully Matthew Hill changes that soon


Been hearing that for seems like forever. What's up with Fox? I thought he was expected to move up as the process went along?
Posted by TigerPaw1
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Posted on 7/10/17 at 2:31 pm to
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Been hearing that for seems like forever.

Agreed. Sounds like South Carolina is making him think but still a lot of confidence on AU's side. Really hoping he jumps on board this month

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What's up with Fox? I thought he was expected to move up as the process went along?

He was then decided to push it back some. Not sure specifically when he is announcing now. Bama has started to turn up the heat it appears. Honestly not sure where he lands right now. Our biggest issue is his inner circle is all Bama
Posted by TigerPaw1
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Member since Apr 2011
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Posted on 7/10/17 at 2:33 pm to
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They just don't seem to like him as much at 247. I can't figure it out.

I don't think he's a great tester meaning his skillset doesn't translate to 7v7 on setting as well. Not a quick WR. I know his coach compares him to Julio Jones but I see more Mike Williams. Slower but physical with good hands. Not sure he's a 5* or not but I definitely think he's a top 100 player
This post was edited on 7/10/17 at 2:34 pm
Posted by TTsTowel
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Posted on 7/10/17 at 2:39 pm to
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#1 - 5* QB Justin Fields (+1)
I hope this doesn't get Gus'd up.
Posted by ellitor
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Posted on 7/10/17 at 3:11 pm to
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This post was edited on 7/10/17 at 3:15 pm
Posted by ellitor
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Posted on 7/10/17 at 3:20 pm to
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They just don't seem to like him as much at 247. I can't figure it out.

247 are the ones who dropped him that far. I think you mean Rivals.
Posted by ellitor
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Posted on 7/10/17 at 3:21 pm to
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Been hearing that for seems like forever. What's up with Fox? I thought he was expected to move up as the process went along?

There have been questions on his motor & some think he's a tweener.
Posted by ellitor
Member since Sep 2012
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Posted on 7/10/17 at 4:08 pm to
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LINK ]FSU fan, adult film star Mia Khalifa makes pitch for No. 1 QB

Mia Khalifa tweeted at No. 1 quarterback prospect Justin Fields, who later deleted his reply.

Adult film star and big Florida State fan Mia Khalifa is no stranger to interacting with athletes on Twitter - even exposing a few like former Ole Miss quarterback Chad Kelly that slid into her direct messages.

Khalifa welcomed Cam Akers to the FSU family after he committed to the Seminoles, and now it appears she is trying to help land the top quarterback in the country.

Khalifa tweeted at Justin Fields, the No. 1 overall player in the 247Sports rankings for the 2018 class. You can see her tweet below.

Mia Khalifa ? @miakhalifa
You up? @justnfields

Fields initially responded and said, "yeah i am ... what's up?" but later deleted the tweet.

Fields is a former Penn State commitment who is being recruiting heavily by programs like Georgia, FSU, Florida, Auburn, Penn State and others. He is the No. 3 overall player in the country according to the industry-generated 247Sports Composite.

The Crystal Ball predictions are a bit all over the map for Fields, but Florida State is currently the leader.
This post was edited on 7/10/17 at 4:15 pm
Posted by CaptainBrannigan
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Posted on 7/10/17 at 4:37 pm to
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There have been questions on his motor & some think he's a tweener.


Aka the perfect Garner recruit.
Posted by RandySavage
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Posted on 7/10/17 at 4:44 pm to
Is the overnight Wed or Thurs?
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