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Posted on 3/31/14 at 12:40 pm to WareagleKK
Posted on 3/31/14 at 12:40 pm to WareagleKK
Posted on 3/31/14 at 1:08 pm to Yintros
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Really? Julio Jones had 1,133 receiving yards his last season, with 7 TDs. Coates had 902 yards and 7 TDs with nearly half the receptions.
So Julio had 230 more yards and twice the receptions than Coates? That's a pretty big difference especially since Coates played in an extra game.
Thanks for making my point.
This post was edited on 3/31/14 at 1:09 pm
Posted on 3/31/14 at 1:11 pm to Weagle25
Stats mean absolutely nothing. No one in the NFL gives a shite about who had more yards or receptions.
Posted on 3/31/14 at 1:14 pm to metafour
Stats are merely there to validate the preconceived notion on athletic ability. Same goes with rating players coming out of high school. There are plenty of 3* guys that have better stats than 4* guys, playing similar competition.
Posted on 3/31/14 at 1:22 pm to metafour
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Stats mean absolutely nothing. No one in the NFL gives a shite about who had more yards or receptions.
Production on the field is a big factor. And no one is going to tell me that Julio and Coates are on nearly the same level in that.
You need production and measurables to go in the first couple rounds. Right now Coates only has the measurables. He's not a guy you throw the ball to and know he's going to go up and get it. He pretty much only catches when he finds a way to get open.
Posted on 3/31/14 at 1:39 pm to Weagle25
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No one in the NFL gives a shite about who had more yards or receptions
These were the guys drafted last year. There's a lot of college production on this list, with the exception of Marquise Goodwin.
Posted on 3/31/14 at 1:46 pm to Weagle25
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So Julio had 230 more yards and twice the receptions than Coates? That's a pretty big difference especially since Coates played in an extra game.
Thanks for making my point.
That means that Coates did just as much with fewer opportunities and a QB with inferior passing ability. You're very confused.
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Production on the field is a big factor. And no one is going to tell me that Julio and Coates are on nearly the same level in that.
You need production and measurables to go in the first couple rounds. Right now Coates only has the measurables. He's not a guy you throw the ball to and know he's going to go up and get it. He pretty much only catches when he finds a way to get open.
He is on nearly the same level as Julio, production-wise. In a VERY run-heavy offense. Please point to the numerous jump ball opportunities that he had.
You really aren't cognizant of how absurd what you're saying sounds. Jerry Rice wasn't a jump ball receiver. He just got open. The same goes for numerous receivers who are considered the greatest ever.
This post was edited on 3/31/14 at 1:51 pm
Posted on 3/31/14 at 1:47 pm to AUtigR24
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DQ > Sammie
I would love for that to be true. However, you guys are setting yourself up for disappointment if you expect unproven players to come in and dominate like you do.
Posted on 3/31/14 at 1:50 pm to Yintros
quote:It's not a ridiculous idea to think the #1 JUCO player last year, and possibly the last few years, will come in and excel. A ton of top JUCO guys do.
I would love for that to be true. However, you guys are setting yourself up for disappointment if you expect unproven players to come in and dominate like you do.
Posted on 3/31/14 at 1:52 pm to AMM AU9893
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It's not a ridiculous idea to think the #1 JUCO player last year, and possibly the last few years, will come in and excel. A ton of top JUCO guys do.
He could be amazing. However, being burned by guys like Trovon Reed and Deangelo Benton should temper your expectations. On top of that, he's in a run-heavy offense with a below average passer. I believe Auburn has 3-4 receivers that could be good or great. It just depends on Marshall.
Posted on 3/31/14 at 2:04 pm to Yintros
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He is on nearly the same level as Julio,
Posted on 3/31/14 at 2:09 pm to Weagle25
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you watch the film of both and tell me who you want on your team.
Julio had stone hands in college. Wasn't a great route runner either. Good to know you've seen the film, though.
Posted on 3/31/14 at 2:12 pm to Yintros
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That means that Coates did just as much with fewer opportunities and a QB with inferior passing ability. You're very confused.
It could also mean Coates creates less opportunities.
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In a VERY run-heavy offense.
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Please point to the numerous jump ball opportunities that he had.
Not many because he not good at it.
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You really aren't cognizant of how absurd what you're saying sounds. Jerry Rice wasn't a jump ball receiver. He just got open. The same goes for numerous receivers who are considered the greatest ever.
I'm not saying you have to be a jump ball receiver to be good. But what Coates does now won't work on the next level.
Posted on 3/31/14 at 2:12 pm to Yintros
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Julio had stone hands in college. Wasn't a great route runner either.
You are describing Sammy pretty well.
Posted on 3/31/14 at 2:13 pm to Yintros
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Julio had stone hands in college
So does Coates.
Posted on 3/31/14 at 2:13 pm to Yintros
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However, you guys are setting yourself up for disappointment if you expect unproven players to come in and dominate like you do.
Frick I always forget to check the rules on having high expectations. My bad bro
Posted on 3/31/14 at 2:17 pm to RockyMtnTigerWDE
Yo betta check yo self before you wreck yo self.
Posted on 3/31/14 at 2:23 pm to Weagle25
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So does Coates.
I don't know what to say, but you're not very adept at supporting a contention.
This post was edited on 3/31/14 at 2:23 pm
Posted on 3/31/14 at 2:28 pm to Weagle25
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It could also mean Coates creates less opportunities.
You... Watched Auburn last year, right?
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and Alabama wasn't? There's a reason we were VERY run heavy and it wasn't all because of Marshall
Of course it was because of Marshall. Auburn could have literally scored at will with a competent passer. Auburn wins the BCS title game if Marshall had even average accuracy. He's a much better overall player than Trotter, Mosely, or Frazier; he isn't amazing.
I'm just feeling very face-palm after reading all of this. You seem to have a preconception based on something that isn't factual.
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