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Posted on 11/24/19 at 3:59 am to Columbia
Posted on 11/24/19 at 3:59 am to Columbia
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Does anyone on this board have a history of sauces?
Several do, I have one as well. Most of the time you can take their info to the bank, but not during coaching searches.
Too many different interests at play, too much misinformation, and too much secrecy.
Most people with sources have a friend that's a huge booster. That's where I get my info. The problem during a coaching search is that the boosters break off into 3 or 4 different factions and each one pushes their guy.
During those times the guys with sources only get the info that comes out of whichever faction they are connected to.
My friend has the AD and major coaches over to his house for dinner on a regular basis. He can tell me all kinds of interesting stuff every time I talk to him, but during coaching searches his info has to be taken with a grain of salt.
This post was edited on 11/24/19 at 4:01 am
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Posted on 11/24/19 at 12:02 pm to RazorBroncs
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I didn't start hearing anything about Fickell through the "back channels" until a few days ago, one of my buddies even said it was BS when the media first reported it but has now changed his tune. They've said from the beginning that Kiffin reached out immediately and are now saying he has interviewed, and that Norvell has gone cold for the time being. Hopefully he's just waiting to see what FSU does.
Leach is somewhat of a mystery, he's apparently expressed interest to the AD but that's about all I know. Rev may be able to share more.
1. Fickell
2. Kiffin
3. Norvell
I swear to God if they hire Luke fuggin Fickell over the list of real candidates I will become an LSU fan. Same with Butch Jones. WTF is going on with our program? Hell Sam Pittman would be a much better hire than either one of those.
Posted on 11/24/19 at 1:11 pm to CFB_Fanatic
what's wrong with fickell?
at cinci he took over a 4-8 team and in year two had them at 11-2 (AAC coach of the year) and currently has them at 10-1
at cinci he took over a 4-8 team and in year two had them at 11-2 (AAC coach of the year) and currently has them at 10-1
Posted on 11/24/19 at 1:18 pm to WaveHog
Solid resume. Not much time as a head coach though. A lot of people are gonna want someone a little more seasoned. And I can't really blame them. Arkansas isn't in a very good spot to gamble from.
On the other hand, the guy I want to be hired hasn't been at it for too awful long either.
I'd probably get behind Fickell.
On the other hand, the guy I want to be hired hasn't been at it for too awful long either.
I'd probably get behind Fickell.
Posted on 11/24/19 at 1:22 pm to BoarEd
norvell and fickell have both been HCs for 4 years. it'd be weird to think norvell has proved himself while fickell is too green.
norvell also took over a program doing decently and continued the success. fickell took a bad team and turned them around.
this weekend will be a good match up between the candidates.
norvell also took over a program doing decently and continued the success. fickell took a bad team and turned them around.
this weekend will be a good match up between the candidates.
Posted on 11/24/19 at 1:27 pm to BoarEd
Every coach is going to he a gamble. Just the way it is. Bert was a "seasoned" coach, and what did that get us? Jimbo at ATM is seasoned, and so far that's not working out so well either.
I'm not stumping for anyone, nor against anyone but Malzahn. I don't have a clear favorite. I do know trying to change the style of play yet again only sets everything up for more failure. Just the same, know that our market inherently has a gamble in it.
Often my intuition says Kiffin. Don't know why, just intuition. Whoever it is, I certainly intend to give them a fair shot.
I'm not stumping for anyone, nor against anyone but Malzahn. I don't have a clear favorite. I do know trying to change the style of play yet again only sets everything up for more failure. Just the same, know that our market inherently has a gamble in it.
Often my intuition says Kiffin. Don't know why, just intuition. Whoever it is, I certainly intend to give them a fair shot.
Posted on 11/24/19 at 1:42 pm to WaveHog
Folks don’t like Fickell because he’s a “yankee” and wouldn’t get Arkansas.
Posted on 11/24/19 at 1:43 pm to TheCheshireHog
21-3 in the past two years.
Posted on 11/24/19 at 1:47 pm to WaveHog
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it'd be weird to think norvell has proved himself while fickell is too green.
I personally don't consider Norvell to be "proven." I mean, he's proven that he can maintain a built program, but our program isn't built.
That's not to say that Norvell isn't good. He clearly is. I just don't think he would be the right hire at this time.
Posted on 11/24/19 at 1:53 pm to TheCheshireHog
That and his 1 year at Ohio State was very meh.
Posted on 11/24/19 at 1:56 pm to BoarEd
Fickell > Norvell
Posted on 11/24/19 at 2:11 pm to RazorHawg
i won't hold his one year at OSU against him. that was a unique situation. a lot of the major players were suspended, they were in the middle of a lot of controversy, and the coaching change was unexpected and rushed.
edit: i mean, i get it though. after morris, i can understand wanting a longer track record. i just don't understand norvell getting pumped up on this board, and fickell getting dismissed. trying to understand the reason why
edit: i mean, i get it though. after morris, i can understand wanting a longer track record. i just don't understand norvell getting pumped up on this board, and fickell getting dismissed. trying to understand the reason why
This post was edited on 11/24/19 at 2:14 pm
Posted on 11/24/19 at 2:14 pm to CFB_Fanatic
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I swear to God if they hire Luke fuggin Fickell over the list of real candidates I will become an LSU fan.
Why? He's got about as solid of a resume as anyone we've discussed, and he actually turned around a floundering program that's in a similar position as our own. I could get behind him pretty easily, although I personally prefer others ahead of him.
At this point I wouldn't count anyone in or out, what we're hearing is about 75% speculation and 25% truth. We may have a guy locked up and are throwing out smokescreens and feelers to gauge fan reaction, nobody really knows other than HY and maybe Fagg.
Posted on 11/24/19 at 2:17 pm to WaveHog
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edit: i mean, i get it though. after morris, i can understand wanting a longer track record. i just don't understand norvell getting pumped up on this board, and fickell getting dismissed. trying to understand the reason why
Norvell has been practically on our doorstep for years. He has recruited many of the Arkansas schools, and elsewhere in the south. That would be one big difference.
Just went through Norvell’s last few recruiting classes. The biggest thing that stands out is that he has a top 20 ranked team, and outside of a couple of transfers, his team is made up of 3 stars, with many more 2 star athletes than 4 star. Norvell is literally doing more with less.
This post was edited on 11/24/19 at 2:27 pm
Posted on 11/24/19 at 3:42 pm to RazorBroncs
Leach is the retarded retread choice. I don't see how that is appealing to anybody.
Norvell has the most upside potential. We fricked that up already, but he's still the best choice out there.
Kiffin just seems like another circus waiting to happen.
Norvell has the most upside potential. We fricked that up already, but he's still the best choice out there.
Kiffin just seems like another circus waiting to happen.
Posted on 11/24/19 at 3:44 pm to troyt37
He took a Fuente team and sustained it.
Posted on 11/24/19 at 3:56 pm to wmr
Kiffin I think could actually stabilize the program with his recruiting and knowledge of SEC and the staff he could put together.
He would also make the QBs better snd bring sanity and stability to the offense, especially if he brings baby Briles... Who changes the game completely.
I think his ceiling may even only be 7-8 wins, but if he will definetly build the lines and the talent, and get us a little national attention I'm fine with that. He improved FAUs recruiting 25 spots.
His strength coach is a former Bama guy. His d line coach is a former Bama guy who was the #1 recruiter in the country at one point.
Could he bring Pittman? Probably unlikely but I know he will hire someone better than what we have now. He also has an f-ing special teams coach.
BTW, Kiff just followed Criswell on Twitter apparently...he's either troing the shite out of the State or he knows something.
He would also make the QBs better snd bring sanity and stability to the offense, especially if he brings baby Briles... Who changes the game completely.
I think his ceiling may even only be 7-8 wins, but if he will definetly build the lines and the talent, and get us a little national attention I'm fine with that. He improved FAUs recruiting 25 spots.
His strength coach is a former Bama guy. His d line coach is a former Bama guy who was the #1 recruiter in the country at one point.
Could he bring Pittman? Probably unlikely but I know he will hire someone better than what we have now. He also has an f-ing special teams coach.
BTW, Kiff just followed Criswell on Twitter apparently...he's either troing the shite out of the State or he knows something.
Posted on 11/24/19 at 4:13 pm to ArHog
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He took a Fuente team and sustained it.
He’s been there as long as Fuente was. There likely aren’t any players from the Fuente era there. Let’s not pretend Fuente built Memphis into some juggernaut in 4 years.
Posted on 11/24/19 at 4:26 pm to troyt37
Depends on what their redshirt program looks like.
Either way though, he took over a program that was already at the top of their league.
Here, well, we are at the bottom. The more I think on Fickell the more I think it would be a good hire. I certainly have him above Norvell for the same reason I outlined above.
I'd still rather see Campbell or Kiffin though. I agree with the poster above mentioning him bringing Briles along with him and maybe Pittman too. If he could do that then I believe our offense would be back at a Petrino like level.
I think Kiffin would do very well here actually.
ETA: I don't think he would be likely to squander another opportunity at an SEC gig either. I think he'd stay put.
Either way though, he took over a program that was already at the top of their league.
Here, well, we are at the bottom. The more I think on Fickell the more I think it would be a good hire. I certainly have him above Norvell for the same reason I outlined above.
I'd still rather see Campbell or Kiffin though. I agree with the poster above mentioning him bringing Briles along with him and maybe Pittman too. If he could do that then I believe our offense would be back at a Petrino like level.
I think Kiffin would do very well here actually.
ETA: I don't think he would be likely to squander another opportunity at an SEC gig either. I think he'd stay put.
This post was edited on 11/24/19 at 4:29 pm
Posted on 11/24/19 at 4:28 pm to wmr
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Leach is the retarded retread choice. I don't see how that is appealing to anybody.
Leach has won at a high level, everywhere he has been. And by many accounts, Leach wants to be the head coach at Arkansas. If true, that alone puts him ahead of many of the candidates we’ve discussed.
Just as we are seeing with many of the players we are getting from Texas, it doesn’t really work when we want folks to be here, more than they want to be here themselves.
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