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re: Sonny dykes and Brian Kelly each won their division year one at their schools
Posted on 11/14/22 at 1:57 pm to FayetteNAM
Posted on 11/14/22 at 1:57 pm to FayetteNAM
TCU plays in a weaker conference and they have stability.
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Posted on 11/14/22 at 2:06 pm to STLhog
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So let me get this straight, we're a burner WR, a "better" o line and a NFL dual threat QB away from being able to beat Liberty, A&M and not blow the myriad of games we have this year?
I'm saying to make the offense better. And Bennett is no NFL QB. Offensive line if fine. KJ just isn't accurate and not quick with his decision making. When he had Burks last year, he would throw it up and let him make a play. I can't say he trusts any of these receivers to do that.
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2 5 star, multiple 4-star WRs
Can any of them run though? I haven't seen any of them blow the top off of a D
Posted on 11/14/22 at 2:16 pm to boogiewoogie1978
quote:isn’t that exactly what landers did on our only scoring drive against lsu this past weekend?
Can any of them run though? I haven't seen any of them blow the top off of a D
Posted on 11/14/22 at 2:20 pm to troyt37
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Not really that big of an accomplishment in the Texass 12. The top half of the SEC, both East and West would regularly win 10-11 in the Texass 12. Wish I could include us, but not so much.
Some of ya'll need to get out of the state.
Arkansas is IRRELEVANT. We're literally 1 step above Vandy in a pillow fight with Mizzou and SC to not enter rock bottom. Seriously, it's time to get a grip on reality.
TCU is far and away a bigger program than we are. Patterson took them to multiple NY6 bowls and they're about to be in the playoff mix.
This post was edited on 11/14/22 at 2:24 pm
Posted on 11/14/22 at 2:24 pm to Hawgnsincebirth55
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isn’t that exactly what landers did on our only scoring drive against lsu this past weekend?
Yes but how often have you seen that this year. 3 times maybe excluding the BYU game
Posted on 11/14/22 at 2:32 pm to boogiewoogie1978
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Yes but how often have you seen that this year. 3 times maybe excluding the BYU game
I'm sure it has nothing to do with Briles playbook and route guide.
Posted on 11/14/22 at 2:32 pm to STLhog
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Keep coping.
Some of ya'll need to get out of the state.
Arkansas is IRRELEVANT. We're literally 1 step above Vandy in this league.
Seriously, get a grip on reality.
You just like to say crap like this to people, don't you?
Georgia is 10-0 in the SEC East
Tennessee is 9-1 in the East, their only loss being to Georgia.
Kentucky is 6-4 in the East.
LSU, Alabama, and Ole Miss are 8-2 in the West.
I can't really tell if you are giving me shite because I said the top half of the SEC would win 10-11 regularly in the Texass 12, which is damn near indisputable, want to act like I included Arkansas in that(which I explicitly didn't), or just like to say shite like that to people, which you do regularly. Whatever the case is, you aren't what you seem to think you are. Probably ought to take some of your own advice and get a grip on reality.
This post was edited on 11/14/22 at 2:34 pm
Posted on 11/14/22 at 2:35 pm to troyt37
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Georgia is 10-0 in the SEC East
Tennessee is 9-1 in the East, their only loss being to Georgia.
Kentucky is 6-4 in the East.
LSU, Alabama, and Ole Miss are 8-2 in the West.
What do any of these have to do with Arkansas vs TCU as a program?
We just lost to Liberty at home. We've lost to 4-5 other G5 teams within the last 5 years.
I'm nearly positive TCU has done no such thing.
This post was edited on 11/14/22 at 2:36 pm
Posted on 11/14/22 at 2:52 pm to STLhog
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What do any of these have to do with Arkansas vs TCU as a program?
I wasn't doing Arkansas vs TCU, I was doing the claim of 11 wins per season for TCU as some kind of accomplishment, when it really isn't. We both know the top half of the SEC (which doesn't include Arkansas) would win 10-11 regularly. I'm pretty sure my old high school has won 11 games 3 times in the last 8 years, so they must be equal to TCU, right?
Comparing records and extrapolating that to mean something when the disparity between each team's conference is monumental, is not smart.
Posted on 11/14/22 at 2:57 pm to troyt37
Ok man. They're literally in the playoff right now.
Keep telling yourself we're on equal footing with them as a program.
Keep telling yourself we're on equal footing with them as a program.
Posted on 11/14/22 at 2:57 pm to FayetteNAM
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Well Gary Patterson had been building that team for 20 years. Had a good thing going, just couldn’t ever get past the Richt stage.
Then he had also been in the state forever, so he knew how to recruit it. I am more worried about how well they do after he gets paid this off season. Does he get fat and happy like Sam?
LSU, had 5 stars all over the field. He also didn’t figure out Harold Perkins was a game wrecker until the Ole Miss game. We had 2-3 5 star players and they all transferred in this year. And have put up numbers.
Could you imagine how bad we would be without Drew Sanders? Nudie? Landers? Haselwood? I gripe about Haselwood over using the spin button but he catches and is the leader or 2nd place on our team in yards.
Even if some don't agree with all of this, you have to provide context like this to every situation.
The lazy take is trying to group every school as being in the same spot.
Posted on 11/14/22 at 3:09 pm to STLhog
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Ok man. They're literally in the playoff right now.
And if they stay there, they will be absolutely destroyed by one of the 3-4 teams that we get to play every year.
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Keep telling yourself we're on equal footing with them as a program.
Pretty obvious that we aren't on equal footing this year, and probably haven't been for the last 15 years with very few exceptions. But if you are going to use records to compare program status, the fact that we have the privilege of playing Alabama, Auburn, LSU, and with alarming regularity teams like Georgia, and Florida (the last 2X at their house) has to count for something.
Stack that up against playing Oklahoma, and maybe Oklahoma State before they've collapsed. Different league, different world.
Posted on 11/14/22 at 3:10 pm to STLhog
TCU lost to SMU twice in 2019 and 2021 which were the last years with Patterson. Both went 5-7 likely mirrors what Arkansas will end up.
Posted on 11/14/22 at 3:21 pm to dchog
SMU is in the AAC.
That's FBS last I checked?
That's FBS last I checked?
Posted on 11/14/22 at 3:24 pm to STLhog
Yes but not power 5.
Posted on 11/14/22 at 3:26 pm to troyt37
Still not sure what the 4-5 best teams in our league have to do with anything.
Does TCU lose to Liberty and A&M this year? Do they struggle with Missouri State?
Does TCU lose to Liberty and A&M this year? Do they struggle with Missouri State?
This post was edited on 11/14/22 at 3:27 pm
Posted on 11/14/22 at 3:38 pm to STLhog
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Still not sure what the 4-5 best teams in our league have to do with anything.
We have had to play 3 of the 5 best teams in our league. What would TCU's record be if they played Alabama, LSU, and Ole Miss this year? Makes it a little more difficult to get to 11 wins, wouldn't you say?
TCU has played 5 ranked opponents this year:
Oklahoma is 5-5
Kansas is 6-4
Oklahoma State is 7-3
Kansas State is 7-3
Texass is 6-4
Or would you rather compare an SEC schedule with:
Colorado 1-9
Tarleton 5-5
SMU 6-4
West Virginia 4-6
Texas Tech 5-5
Are you just trying not to see it?
Posted on 11/14/22 at 3:40 pm to STLhog
He beats them all because he is a superior coach than Sam with greater experience and knows his offense. Sam has to ask his OC what to do.
Posted on 11/14/22 at 4:06 pm to STLhog
I’m not going to argue about tcu being a better program the past 15 years. Hell so has Missouri. I’m asking why since most people like to say the reason we don’t have success is we can’t recruit with lsu, alabama, etc. but the truth isn’t that we can’t recruit at a level to have success it’s that we haven’t had a good enough coach over the last 10 years. As you said talent might be why we lost to lsu or alabama this year, it’s not why we lose to Mississippi state, Liberty, or A&M this year. And it’s also not why we lost to Toledo, Rutgers and Texas tech in years past just to name a few. Tcu doesn’t recruit better than us, but they’ve had a better program because they’ve had a better coach. It’s time we stop settling for mediocrity in the coaching department
Posted on 11/14/22 at 4:14 pm to Hawgnsincebirth55
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It’s time we stop settling for mediocrity in the coaching department
I'd agree with that, but they have to want the job to go along with the money. Who are we going to get for our 8-10 million per year? I think our chances are a lot better to wind up with a Jimbo Fisher than a Lane Kiffin.
I think we have to find a guy that is getting it done at a lower tier school, and let his success decide his pay, not unlike we are doing with Pittman. IF we want the new hotness, we are going to have to throw out 6-7 per year, with incentives to get to 8-10. Will we ever do that?
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